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It's compete trash and Christian propaganda. The way they make the bullies use PG-13 insults is laughable.

I am in agreement with Tommy. It's mainly a religious puff piece.

Its the most inaccurate movie ive ever watched. But I do have respect for it since it produced (I think) by her family

Tommy QTR wrote:

It's compete trash and Christian propaganda. The way they make the bullies use PG-13 insults is laughable.

F A R T K N O C K E R

SavageGlocker wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

It's compete trash and Christian propaganda. The way they make the bullies use PG-13 insults is laughable.

F A R T K N O C K E R

SavageGlocker wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

It's compete trash and Christian propaganda. The way they make the bullies use PG-13 insults is laughable.

F A R T K N O C K E R

When I first saw that scene I actually laughed at how stupid it was, like that's not even a word, why would they say that of all things? That and the "dork bowling" scene is some of the most inaccurate portrayals of bullying in Columbine there is.

I wish they could make a columbine movie (with the shooters and victims)

First initial thought it "well you should be"


There are many inaccuracies which surprise me because it is so easily fixed. Rachel's hair for one, the implied Dylan crush on Rachel, they were NOT in video class together HFH was part of Eric's business class I believe and he got a really good grade on it.. also many of Rachel's friends boycotted it too. Which says a lot.

I was forced to watch it with my mother for Mother's Day. She was in tears at the end.

Frankly, they could've made a movie honoring Rachel Scott without perpetuating all the myths about her life. Also, the actor who played Eric was, what, 30?

I get why the Scott family believe the myths around Rachel's death. They need to believe that her death had some purpose, that she was somehow ordained for martyrdom to make sense of a random, senseless death.
Same as Brian Rohrbough needs to blame the fact evolution not creationism was taught in schools. He needs an answer to an unanswerable question, "Why my child?".

I do too Pixie

I think Rachel’s mom is the one that told Sue that what happened was inevitable and there’s nothing anyone could do to stop it. Something along the lines of Dylan was born to murder her daughter which is a horrible thing to say.

It's really horrible. I often wonder how Craig sees it, Why was it God that saved him but took Rachel? Was she the golden child because she died? Having survivor's guilt must be hard enough.

A piece of Christian propaganda. I respect that Rachel's family wants to somehow make sense of a senseless, horrible death of a poor young girl by portraying her as some sorts of predestined martyr, but there's been many more people at work in the production of the movie, people who should have realized how unrespectful and inaccurate was. Yet they chose to go on with it.

Tbh, they should've made a movie with other victims like cassie bernall or even Isaiah shoels. Rachel should had a movie that's actually accurate and isn't that Christian. Hell, why don't they make a movie about the shooters and victims

Kerea2244 wrote:

Tbh, they should've made a movie with other victims like cassie bernall or even Isaiah shoels. Rachel should had a movie that's actually accurate and isn't that Christian. Hell, why don't they make a movie about the shooters and victims

There’s a movie about Lauren Townsend which is heartbreaking. It’s on YouTube

I’d love to write a movie based on A Mothers Reckoning or about Eric’s life....

It's sad that it seems like Rachael's parents like to milk her death for money. You think they would want to portray their daughter accurately, at least to what they want to believe about her. I mean making her and Dylan interested in each other? Really? Sorta seems like a slap in the face. They could have done something else in her honor. It's just really sad to me that they keep doing this. I get they want to believe she died a martyr. And that's fine, if that's how it helps them process her death. Who am I judge? But just... some of the other things they did with the movie. Some of the other falsehoods. I don't get it. Even with people that knew her protesting. Why do it?

Its a decent movie as long as you treat it as fiction. If you treat it like a doco you will have a bad time.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'd take a movie based on Cullenbine any day of the week before I would accept this piece of garbage.

QuestionMark wrote:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'd take a movie based on Cullenbine any day of the week before I would accept this piece of garbage.

I don't think I could force myself to watch a Cullenbine Doc. Making my way through his book was bad enough!

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'd take a movie based on Cullenbine any day of the week before I would accept this piece of garbage.

I don't think I could force myself to watch a Cullenbine Doc. Making my way through his book was bad enough!

And we’d have a young Christian Slater type actor as Eric Harris...maybe Penn Badgley and Sloth from Goonies as Dylan....

It would be ridiculous

“Greetings and Salutations Dylan...... how’d you like to go on a killing spree?”

“No thank you “

“I have a Dr.Pepper slushie for you....”

“Ok Eric! Let’s do it”

Screamingophelia wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'd take a movie based on Cullenbine any day of the week before I would accept this piece of garbage.

I don't think I could force myself to watch a Cullenbine Doc. Making my way through his book was bad enough!

And we’d have a young Christian Slater type actor as Eric Harris...maybe Penn Badgley and Sloth from Goonies as Dylan....

It would be ridiculous

“Greetings and Salutations Dylan...... how’d you like to go on a killing spree?”

“No thank you “

“I have a Dr.Pepper slushie for you....”

“Ok Eric! Let’s do it”

Well now that I think about how fucking HILARIOUS and totally wrong the whole thing would be, I do think I would try to watch it!

But I would likely strain an eye from all the rolling.

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Screamingophelia wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'd take a movie based on Cullenbine any day of the week before I would accept this piece of garbage.

I don't think I could force myself to watch a Cullenbine Doc. Making my way through his book was bad enough!

And we’d have a young Christian Slater type actor as Eric Harris...maybe Penn Badgley and Sloth from Goonies as Dylan....

It would be ridiculous

“Greetings and Salutations Dylan...... how’d you like to go on a killing spree?”

“No thank you “

“I have a Dr.Pepper slushie for you....”

“Ok Eric! Let’s do it”

Well now that I think about how fucking HILARIOUS and totally wrong the whole thing would be, I do think I would try to watch it!

But I would likely strain an eye from all the rolling.

Lol it could be good for the cringe

Imagine the recreation of the basement tapes?


Why is Eric always JD from Heathers to me? Kidding

It's a mediocre movie in and of itself, but there have been worse Christian films, like Kirk Cameron's garbage. I did find the portrayal of Rachel somewhat believable as a *teenage girl*, very confused about what she actually believes and full of angst. Whether or not it was accurate to the real Rachel, well it probably was only somewhat. But most movies make teenagers FAR too articulate because they're reading movie dialogue, and then there's all the 27 year old actors playing teenagers. I can't really accuse INA of too much of *that*.

Columbine enthusiasts who have memorized every Columbine detail will throw a fit over what the movie gets wrong, even only slightly wrong. One kid is obviously supposed to be Brooks Brown, and Rachel taking a giggly Asian kid to prom in place of Nick Baumgart is hilarious.

I disagree with the post that says "FARTKNOCKER" isn't an insult real high school kids use. I was 16 in 1999 and I can remember people saying that!! I went to a Midwestern school, too--Midwesterners are dorky, y'know!

The movie did *not* really make Rachel a total saint. I have to give it credit for that.

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Would be interesting to see the dude who played Dylan get to flex his acting skills more in movies with higher production values. Personally I get a very Kylo Ren vibe

It's funny cos didn't Rachel's friends boycott the film? I wonder if any of the Scott family kept in touch with any of her friends after she died. You look at Lauren's dad and stepmom who support Anne-Marie even after all this time. It was shown in 13 Families. I thought it was amazing that something good came out of tragedy for her family.

Lunkhead McGrath wrote:

It's a mediocre movie in and of itself

Correction: it would be if this was a fictional story about a fictional school shooting. 

This movie purports itself to be a truthful retelling of events and the whole thing is a clusterfuck of falsehoods. That's enough for me to consider it a failure of a film.

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Would be interesting to see the dude who played Dylan get to flex his acting skills more in movies with higher production values. Personally I get a very Kylo Ren vibe

He's in "I, Tonya" for a brief bit as one of Tonya's nasty boyfriends. She beats the crap out of him for touching her.

I wouldn't wish looking like Dyldo on my worst enemy.

Lunkhead McGrath wrote:

HanShotFirst wrote:

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Would be interesting to see the dude who played Dylan get to flex his acting skills more in movies with higher production values. Personally I get a very Kylo Ren vibe

He's in "I, Tonya" for a brief bit as one of Tonya's nasty boyfriends.  She beats the crap out of him for touching her.  

I wouldn't wish looking like Dyldo on my worst enemy.

Obligatory Dylan was not ugly post.

Screamingophelia wrote:

Lunkhead McGrath wrote:

HanShotFirst wrote:

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Would be interesting to see the dude who played Dylan get to flex his acting skills more in movies with higher production values. Personally I get a very Kylo Ren vibe

He's in "I, Tonya" for a brief bit as one of Tonya's nasty boyfriends.  She beats the crap out of him for touching her.  

I wouldn't wish looking like Dyldo on my worst enemy.

Obligatory Dylan was not ugly post.

All "Dylan was not ugly posts" are in response to me, I'm the one who keeps saying it.

Lunkhead McGrath wrote:

Screamingophelia wrote:

Lunkhead McGrath wrote:

HanShotFirst wrote:

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Would be interesting to see the dude who played Dylan get to flex his acting skills more in movies with higher production values. Personally I get a very Kylo Ren vibe

He's in "I, Tonya" for a brief bit as one of Tonya's nasty boyfriends.  She beats the crap out of him for touching her.  

I wouldn't wish looking like Dyldo on my worst enemy.

Obligatory Dylan was not ugly post.

All "Dylan was not ugly posts" are in response to me, I'm the one who keeps saying it.  

Yes

I feel like if I stop there will be something missing from the world LOL. I’m not doing it in any seriousness I love reading everything you post. I enjoy talking to you. Hence why I called in an obligatory post lol

Screamingophelia wrote:

Lunkhead McGrath wrote:

HanShotFirst wrote:

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Would be interesting to see the dude who played Dylan get to flex his acting skills more in movies with higher production values. Personally I get a very Kylo Ren vibe

He's in "I, Tonya" for a brief bit as one of Tonya's nasty boyfriends.  She beats the crap out of him for touching her.  

I wouldn't wish looking like Dyldo on my worst enemy.

Obligatory Dylan was not ugly post.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  We have had this convo before! TO EACH THEIR OWN!

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Screamingophelia wrote:

Lunkhead McGrath wrote:

HanShotFirst wrote:

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Would be interesting to see the dude who played Dylan get to flex his acting skills more in movies with higher production values. Personally I get a very Kylo Ren vibe

He's in "I, Tonya" for a brief bit as one of Tonya's nasty boyfriends.  She beats the crap out of him for touching her.  

I wouldn't wish looking like Dyldo on my worst enemy.

Obligatory Dylan was not ugly post.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  We have had this convo before! TO EACH THEIR OWN!

I remember now.

A thought I keep having about the film. If Columbine was as religious as I believe it is, and as we heard it was... If she was that genuinely religious as the movie portrays her to be I don’t think anybody would’ve cared.She would’ve fit right in.

Screamingophelia wrote:

A thought I keep having about the film. If Columbine was as religious as I believe it is, and as we heard it was... If she was that genuinely religious as the movie portrays her to be I don’t think anybody would’ve cared.She would’ve fit right in.

She had plenty of friends at CHS, people were bawling their eyes out around her car parked near the school over the next few days. Hell Cullen even says he sped down there to get to her funeral. (TRIGGERED!!!)

But hey, the movie is about showing her religious beliefs challenged because her friends were maybe making out with some boys at a party. And she had to put up with Not Brooks Brown in the smokers' pit, the indignity of that.

The red beans and rice at Popeyes will give you diarrhea. Holy hellfire.

Awful movie. Melodramatic, bad acting.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Columbine definitely is religious but in the way that everyone is just assumed to be Christian, but religion itself isn't really brought up constantly. Like all the cool kids are in Young Life but I remember the one year I went to their Halloween party the girl who won the costume contest that the leaders helped judge with the kids was a slutty cop. All the kids who party hard and are cool go to youth group at their family's church. All the family's belong to one church or another.

While religion isn't brought up by the majority of kids the ones who do are kind of on the fringe (like I believe Cassie Bernall was, based on kids who act like she supposedly did and talk about Jesus all the time) Also if you bring up atheist, liberal etc. type beliefs or actions people's reactions remind you of how white Christian conservstive the majority of the school is if that makes sense.

I struggled with this a bit when I was there. I'm Christian and was involved with LifeTeen the Catholic youth group with a good number of other kids at Columbine but being biracial and coming from a very poor Native upbringing and area in Hawai'i I definitely felt the disconnect about some of my beliefs. People weren't racist they generally exoticized my kanaka background but they didnt like hearing about how impoverished my ohana and people back home are thanks to a legacy of white colonial opppression and how social programs are vital to our survival.

That's when i first started talking to my sister a lot about Columbine and she said it was even worse when she was there from 96-00 and that she was definitely guilty of being part of that whole culture.

Anyone have a link?

true_crime wrote:

Anyone have a link?

You don’t want to put yourself through this dribble nonsense. Just trust me.

true_crime wrote:

Anyone have a link?

A link to the movie? Yea.

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true_crime wrote:

Anyone have a link?

Watch that drivel nonsense yet?

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“I’m not ashamed...well you should be!”