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Holy shit. Shocked

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None of the links work for me. I got the "ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT" when trying to access the pages.

I wonder if it has something to do with me residing outside the USA. Nobody else in the thread seems to have any issues with this.

Weird. Have you tried going to my channel and viewing it from there?

Your channel works fine and is greatly appreciated.

I meant the links in the first post of this thread by Mh_12rm_66.

I dunno. Have you tried contacting a forum moderator for this issue?

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They are actually still going through the presentation, so not all of the videos from the surveillance cameras and the body cams has been shown yet. In fact, they are live right now if you wanna watch.

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None of the links work for me. I got the "ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT" when trying to access the pages.

I wonder if it has something to do with me residing outside the USA. Nobody else in the thread seems to have any issues with this.

Weird. Have you tried going to my channel and viewing it from there?

Your channel works fine and is greatly appreciated.

I meant the links in the first post of this thread by Mh_12rm_66.

I dunno. Have you tried contacting a forum moderator for this issue?

I solved the issue. It is not with the forum, but it is most likely with the country I reside in.
I used a VPN from the USA and it worked. I have downloaded the documents.

I was surprised that instead of redacting whole photographs, they just removed the part that depicts the victims. Anyone who has seen the redacted crime scene photographs from Sandy Hook knows what I am talking about.

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Devil wrote:
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Devil wrote:
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None of the links work for me. I got the "ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT" when trying to access the pages.

I wonder if it has something to do with me residing outside the USA. Nobody else in the thread seems to have any issues with this.

Weird. Have you tried going to my channel and viewing it from there?

Your channel works fine and is greatly appreciated.

I meant the links in the first post of this thread by Mh_12rm_66.

I dunno. Have you tried contacting a forum moderator for this issue?

I solved the issue. It is not with the forum, but it is most likely with the country I reside in.
I used a VPN from the USA and it worked. I have downloaded the documents.

I was surprised that instead of redacting whole photographs, they just removed the part that depicts the victims. Anyone who has seen the redacted crime scene photographs from Sandy Hook knows what I am talking about.

Nice, and yeah, I'm surprised too. But I guess Sandy Hook is an entirely different case compared to this. CHILDREN died in that shooting, not high school teens.

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I’ve noticed that Nik is left handed from watching the video and looking at the pictures of him holding the rifle
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None of the links work for me. I got the "ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT" when trying to access the pages.

I wonder if it has something to do with me residing outside the USA. Nobody else in the thread seems to have any issues with this.

Same for me, and I also live outside the USA.

Could someone copy and paste the "Cruz’s Cell Phone Content and Internet Searches" document please (if it is not too long). This is the one I am the most interested in.
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Lol, the fact that he watched the same pumped up kicks music video that many of us watched makes me queasy.
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None of the links work for me. I got the "ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT" when trying to access the pages.

I wonder if it has something to do with me residing outside the USA. Nobody else in the thread seems to have any issues with this.

Same for me, and I also live outside the USA.

Could someone copy and paste the "Cruz’s Cell Phone Content and Internet Searches" document please (if it is not too long). This is the one I am the most interested in.

Try using a VPN. There are some free ones out there.

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Neah wrote:
Devil wrote:
None of the links work for me. I got the "ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT" when trying to access the pages.

I wonder if it has something to do with me residing outside the USA. Nobody else in the thread seems to have any issues with this.

Same for me, and I also live outside the USA.

Could someone copy and paste the "Cruz’s Cell Phone Content and Internet Searches" document please (if it is not too long). This is the one I am the most interested in.

Try using a VPN. There are some free ones out there.

It worked.
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Cruz’s Internet History February 10 – February 11
History • Pornography • Banking • Japanese anime • Wikipedia:  School Shooting • Wikipedia:  Marshal County High School Shooting (KY) • Wikipedia:  Red Lake Senior High School (MN) • How the AR-15 Became Mass Shooters’ Weapon of Choice – Rolling Stone article
Search Phrases • hot middle school girl in dress • porn uniform • womens viagra for sale • school shooters • ar-15 • dollar tree parkland, fl • virginia tech massacre • columbine diary • ar-15 close quarter combat • real combat footage • school shooter footage

Call it immature but I find these porn and anime searches sandwiched in between searches about school shootings and guns to be so damn funny.

Tbh there is something about a mass murderer looking up porn, anime and memes days before their massacre that I can't put my finger on. It completely ruins that the threatening image that they want to be. Very very dark humor? That seems like a really bad way to describe it but it's the only thing in my mind that can vaguely describe it.

I can understand him watching porn and anime. It was his way of relaxing before the D-Day I guess. Breivik wanted to see two high-class prostitutes, Cruz watched porn... it's even more pathetic than Breivik but the result is probably the same.

What I cannot understand however is that he watched a video on the Kardashian family in early february... this is beyond my realm of comprehension.
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The banker asked Lynda about police involvement or mental health to try to help her. Lynda Cruz told her that Nikolas was very good at making people think that he doesn’t know what he is dong.
 
Lynda Cruz was adamant that he (Nikolas Cruz) knew exactly what he is doing but played people into thinking that he had such a horrible life and he had been bullied and was depressed, but that was not the case. The impression she had was that Nikolas was highly manipulative.

This was on page 26 of the first document posted. 

That's it, I'm sold on the concept that Cruz is a total, actual psychopath. He's not schizophrenic, he's not just some troubled kid, he's just a bad person. I was wondering if we'd ever got a smoking gun on what Nick's psychological problem was and for me this seals the deal.

I do think he had urges and was troubled. Until the last days it seemed that he tried to find alternatives to the shooting, something that would prevent it, something that would bring him hope and show him that he can still fix his life. He searched “Pest control job” and “crime scene cleaner”… Was he thinking about jobs he could do, especially one that would make him see blood, maybe as an alternative to the shooting that would occur a few days after, or did he had a generous thought about the cleaner that would clean the scene after his massacre? It’s weird, even a few days before the shooting he searched for therapists, “how to get into a relationship”, “how to get a girlfriend”, “how not to be afraid of the girl you like”. He took a screenshot of an article about homicidal urges, at a part where it said that people who felt this usually had issues in their life and it was a way to feel powerful. It read “Perhaps someone they like, doesn’t like them back. They might feel rejected. Feelings of rejection can be quite painful.” This reflect his own feelings, texts and notes about the girl he loved. He chose to take a screenshot of this passage in particular, it is not the whole article. The same day he searched for “reckloose” (recluse). I think he was really depressed and troubled and really had an urge to be violent, to kill. He killed animals but it was not enough. He searched for footages of real-life violence (rape, people being shot, war, animals killing other animals…) and I think he did that as a try to “feed” this urge, to satisfy it, to feel better without having to be violent. But it was unfortunately not enough either. He still had the urge and he was never satisfied and couldn’t stop it so he committed the shooting.
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The banker asked Lynda about police involvement or mental health to try to help her. Lynda Cruz told her that Nikolas was very good at making people think that he doesn’t know what he is dong.
 
Lynda Cruz was adamant that he (Nikolas Cruz) knew exactly what he is doing but played people into thinking that he had such a horrible life and he had been bullied and was depressed, but that was not the case. The impression she had was that Nikolas was highly manipulative.

This was on page 26 of the first document posted. 

That's it, I'm sold on the concept that Cruz is a total, actual psychopath. He's not schizophrenic, he's not just some troubled kid, he's just a bad person. I was wondering if we'd ever got a smoking gun on what Nick's psychological problem was and for me this seals the deal.

I do think he had urges and was troubled. Until the last days it seemed that he tried to find alternatives to the shooting, something that would prevent it, something that would bring him hope and show him that he can still fix his life. He searched “Pest control job” and “crime scene cleaner”… Was he thinking about jobs he could do, especially one that would make him see blood, maybe as an alternative to the shooting that would occur a few days after, or did he had a generous thought about the cleaner that would clean the scene after his massacre? It’s weird, even a few days before the shooting he searched for therapists, “how to get into a relationship”, “how to get a girlfriend”, “how not to be afraid of the girl you like”. He took a screenshot of an article about homicidal urges, at a part where it said that people who felt this usually had issues in their life and it was a way to feel powerful. It read “Perhaps someone they like, doesn’t like them back. They might feel rejected. Feelings of rejection can be quite painful.” This reflect his own feelings, texts and notes about the girl he loved. He chose to take a screenshot of this passage in particular, it is not the whole article. The same day he searched for “reckloose” (recluse). I think he was really depressed and troubled and really had an urge to be violent, to kill. He killed animals but it was not enough. He searched for footages of real-life violence (rape, people being shot, war, animals killing other animals…) and I think he did that as a try to “feed” this urge, to satisfy it, to feel better without having to be violent. But it was unfortunately not enough either. He still had the urge and he was never satisfied and couldn’t stop it so he committed the shooting.

I think he was very depressed and felt all alone, as well as having these homicidal urges. I do have to say, I think he is a psychopath. But that doesn’t mean he didn’t want to get better. He looked up therapy for homicidal urges, so he was obviously thinking about trying to better himself. But the lure of mass murder was just too strong for him to resist. I honestly don’t know why he didn’t kill himself after the rampage. He had two other suicide attempts and was searching things like “I wanna die.” I wonder if he was planning to die, and then chickened out, like Dimitrios Pagourtzis. Because if he wasn’t planning to die then he planned to get caught. I wonder what his plan was when he was walking aimlessly. I wonder if he was going back to the Snead’s house to retrieve another gun.
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DanielGardner wrote:
Neah wrote:
The banker asked Lynda about police involvement or mental health to try to help her. Lynda Cruz told her that Nikolas was very good at making people think that he doesn’t know what he is dong.
 
Lynda Cruz was adamant that he (Nikolas Cruz) knew exactly what he is doing but played people into thinking that he had such a horrible life and he had been bullied and was depressed, but that was not the case. The impression she had was that Nikolas was highly manipulative.

This was on page 26 of the first document posted. 

That's it, I'm sold on the concept that Cruz is a total, actual psychopath. He's not schizophrenic, he's not just some troubled kid, he's just a bad person. I was wondering if we'd ever got a smoking gun on what Nick's psychological problem was and for me this seals the deal.


I do think he had urges and was troubled. Until the last days it seemed that he tried to find alternatives to the shooting, something that would prevent it, something that would bring him hope and show him that he can still fix his life. He searched “Pest control job” and “crime scene cleaner”… Was he thinking about jobs he could do, especially one that would make him see blood, maybe as an alternative to the shooting that would occur a few days after, or did he had a generous thought about the cleaner that would clean the scene after his massacre? It’s weird, even a few days before the shooting he searched for therapists, “how to get into a relationship”, “how to get a girlfriend”, “how not to be afraid of the girl you like”. He took a screenshot of an article about homicidal urges, at a part where it said that people who felt this usually had issues in their life and it was a way to feel powerful. It read “Perhaps someone they like, doesn’t like them back. They might feel rejected. Feelings of rejection can be quite painful.” This reflect his own feelings, texts and notes about the girl he loved. He chose to take a screenshot of this passage in particular, it is not the whole article. The same day he searched for “reckloose” (recluse). I think he was really depressed and troubled and really had an urge to be violent, to kill. He killed animals but it was not enough. He searched for footages of real-life violence (rape, people being shot, war, animals killing other animals…) and I think he did that as a try to “feed” this urge, to satisfy it, to feel better without having to be violent. But it was unfortunately not enough either. He still had the urge and he was never satisfied and couldn’t stop it so he committed the shooting.

I think he was very depressed and felt all alone, as well as having these homicidal urges. I do have to say, I think he is a psychopath. But that doesn’t mean he didn’t want to get better. He looked up therapy for homicidal urges, so he was obviously thinking about trying to better himself. But the lure of mass murder was just too strong for him to resist. I honestly don’t know why he didn’t kill himself after the rampage. He had two other suicide attempts and was searching things like “I wanna die.” I wonder if he was planning to die, and then chickened out, like Dimitrios Pagourtzis. Because if he wasn’t planning to die then he planned to get caught. I wonder what his plan was when he was walking aimlessly. I wonder if he was going back to the Snead’s house to retrieve another gun.

I agree with you, and just to make sure I'm not misunderstood the part in red in the quote is not something I wrote, it is QuestionMark's opinion (see my op). I already talked about my opinion on Cruz non-suicide a few months ago and the new information we now have doesn't make me change my theory. I think killing yourself after committing a mass shooting is logical because there is no escape, it is impossible to get away with it and live a normal life after that. But it is also a bit contradictory because I imagine that when you commit a mass shooting you really feel alive, due to the adrenaline, you feel powerful, feared... all the things you wanted. So in fact you are supposed to kill yourself at the moment where you feel the best and truly alive. You have what you wanted, you still feel the adrenaline and yet you have to put an end to it immediatly. A shooting is both the beginning and the end.
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The banker asked Lynda about police involvement or mental health to try to help her. Lynda Cruz told her that Nikolas was very good at making people think that he doesn’t know what he is dong.
 
Lynda Cruz was adamant that he (Nikolas Cruz) knew exactly what he is doing but played people into thinking that he had such a horrible life and he had been bullied and was depressed, but that was not the case. The impression she had was that Nikolas was highly manipulative.

This was on page 26 of the first document posted. 

That's it, I'm sold on the concept that Cruz is a total, actual psychopath. He's not schizophrenic, he's not just some troubled kid, he's just a bad person. I was wondering if we'd ever got a smoking gun on what Nick's psychological problem was and for me this seals the deal.

I do think he had urges and was troubled. Until the last days it seemed that he tried to find alternatives to the shooting, something that would prevent it, something that would bring him hope and show him that he can still fix his life. He searched “Pest control job” and “crime scene cleaner”… Was he thinking about jobs he could do, especially one that would make him see blood, maybe as an alternative to the shooting that would occur a few days after, or did he had a generous thought about the cleaner that would clean the scene after his massacre? It’s weird, even a few days before the shooting he searched for therapists, “how to get into a relationship”, “how to get a girlfriend”, “how not to be afraid of the girl you like”. He took a screenshot of an article about homicidal urges, at a part where it said that people who felt this usually had issues in their life and it was a way to feel powerful. It read “Perhaps someone they like, doesn’t like them back. They might feel rejected. Feelings of rejection can be quite painful.” This reflect his own feelings, texts and notes about the girl he loved. He chose to take a screenshot of this passage in particular, it is not the whole article. The same day he searched for “reckloose” (recluse). I think he was really depressed and troubled and really had an urge to be violent, to kill. He killed animals but it was not enough. He searched for footages of real-life violence (rape, people being shot, war, animals killing other animals…) and I think he did that as a try to “feed” this urge, to satisfy it, to feel better without having to be violent. But it was unfortunately not enough either. He still had the urge and he was never satisfied and couldn’t stop it so he committed the shooting.

I think he was very depressed and felt all alone, as well as having these homicidal urges. I do have to say, I think he is a psychopath. But that doesn’t mean he didn’t want to get better. He looked up therapy for homicidal urges, so he was obviously thinking about trying to better himself. But the lure of mass murder was just too strong for him to resist. I honestly don’t know why he didn’t kill himself after the rampage. He had two other suicide attempts and was searching things like “I wanna die.” I wonder if he was planning to die, and then chickened out, like Dimitrios Pagourtzis. Because if he wasn’t planning to die then he planned to get caught. I wonder what his plan was when he was walking aimlessly. I wonder if he was going back to the Snead’s house to retrieve another gun.

I agree with you, and just to make sure I'm not misunderstood the part in red in the quote is not something I wrote, it is QuestionMark's opinion (see my op). I already talked about my opinion on Cruz non-suicide a few months ago and the new information we now have doesn't make me change my theory. I think killing yourself after committing a mass shooting is logical because there is no escape, it is impossible to get away with it and live a normal life after that. But it is also a bit contradictory because I imagine that when you commit a mass shooting you really feel alive, due to the adrenaline, you feel powerful, feared... all the things you wanted. So in fact you are supposed to kill yourself at the moment where you feel the best and truly alive. You have what you wanted, you still feel the adrenaline and yet you have to put an end to it immediatly. A shooting is both the beginning and the end.

Sorry I was responding to both, I should have made that clearer. I agree with you as well.
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I feel bad for the kid that walked in on Cruz when he was pulling out the gun.

Hes gonna beat himself up forever for not doing anything.
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I feel bad for the kid that walked in on Cruz when he was pulling out the gun.

Hes gonna beat himself up forever for not doing anything.

But was there anything that Chris Mckenna could've really done to change the course of things? If you just wandered into a guy loading a rifle inside your school, you obviously would be very intimated, I'm surprised that he didn't freeze up with fear. But what he ended up doing was the only thing he could possibly do in that situation, run out when he had the chance and alerted Araon Feis about Cruz. He probably feels more guilty about sending off Feis off to what would eventually be his death but there was very little that he could actually do..
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W.A.R. wrote:
I feel bad for the kid that walked in on Cruz when he was pulling out the gun.

Hes gonna beat himself up forever for not doing anything.

But was there anything that Chris Mckenna could've really done to change the course of things? If you just wandered into a guy loading a rifle inside your school, you obviously would be very intimated, I'm surprised that he didn't freeze up with fear. But what he ended up doing was the only thing he could possibly do in that situation, run out when he had the chance and alerted Araon Feis about Cruz. He probably feels more guilty about sending off Feis off to what would eventually be his death but there was very little that he could actually do..  

Unfortunately guilt is not always rational. Indeed there was nothing he could do, I hope he is aware of it and doesn't feel guilty but I doubt it. It's like people who survive a tragedy and feel guilty because they are alive and others died, it is awful.
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I never knew about all the 911 calls Lynda Cruz made.

Broward County Sheriff’s Office Contact Summary with Nikolas Cruz wrote:
Lynda Cruz called BSO because her two teenage children were cursing and being disrespectful.
Lynda Cruz called BSO because her two teenage children were fighting about the computer.
Lynda Cruz called BSO to report she had a verbal altercation with her son Nikolas Cruz.
Lynda Cruz called BSO because of a verbal argument with her two sons.


I know being a single mother would be very hard, especially raising someone with serious mental issues, but how does any of this warrant police involvement?

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Some various highlights from the law enforcement response and Cruz's cellphone powerpoint:

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Bonus: 911 calls from the 1200 building:


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Some various highlights from the law enforcement response and Cruz's cellphone powerpoint:

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They are very generous with how they censor these images.

In the police interview video, he said he once tried to kill himself by cutting his wrist and that it wouldn't stop bleeding. Now we know exactly where he got the idea from.

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Some various highlights from the law enforcement response and Cruz's cellphone powerpoint:

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They are very generous with how they censor these images.

In the police interview video, he said he once tried to kill himself by cutting his wrist and that it wouldn't stop bleeding. Now we know exactly where he got the idea from.

Yeah I wish other events had this much info released for them, I'm having an absolute field day with the stuff they've released in the past couple of days and this isn't even all of it probably since the documents scheduled for today haven't been released yet (possibly because Scot Peterson didn't testify today even though he was subpoenaed to). They're also gonna release a report/powerpoint on "Presentation on the Fire/EMS Response to MSDH and Results of Interviews Regarding Medical Care", Commission Discussion on Information Received From the FBI, and Commission Review of Recommendations and Findings for January Report which provide a bunch more information (which ill post here) asap.
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Still got more things to edit too, since more surveillance video was shown in the presentation, along with body cam footage.

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Still got more things to edit too, since more surveillance video was shown in the presentation, along with body cam footage.

How much body cam footage have you found ? I haven't seen any other than the like 2 short gif/videos they had in the LE response powerpoint (that didn't show much either).
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Still got more things to edit too, since more surveillance video was shown in the presentation, along with body cam footage.

How much body cam footage have you found ? I haven't seen any other than the like 2 short gif/videos they had in the LE response powerpoint (that didn't show much either).

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^ Skip to 1:01:52 for body cam video from Deputy Stambaugh first arriving on the scene. Listen closely and you can hear gunshots.

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^^ There are a couple of moments where they play body cam video from different officers.

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Still got more things to edit too, since more surveillance video was shown in the presentation, along with body cam footage.

How much body cam footage have you found ? I haven't seen any other than the like 2 short gif/videos they had in the LE response powerpoint (that didn't show much either).

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^ Skip to 1:01:52 for body cam video from Deputy Stambaugh first arriving on the scene. Listen closely and you can hear gunshots.

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^^ There are a couple of moments where they play body cam video from different officers.

Oh nice, thanks man.
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I was looking through that behavior powerpoint and it said Nik and Zach held down a cat and let their 2 dogs attack it omggg pyschos!!!
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I was looking through that behavior powerpoint and it said Nik and Zach held down a cat and let their 2 dogs attack it omggg pyschos!!!

As an animal lover, reading that made me really pissed off towards the both of them. Evil or Very Mad

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I was looking through that behavior powerpoint and it said Nik and Zach held down a cat and let their 2 dogs attack it omggg pyschos!!!

As an animal lover, reading that made me really pissed off towards the both of them. Evil or Very Mad

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Nice, thanks! Looks like these images were taken a different times compared to the Law Enforcement response.

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Nice, thanks! Looks like these images were taken a different times compared to the Law Enforcement response.

Yeah no problem !
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Gonna be uploading the body cam footage later.

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Gonna be uploading the body cam footage later.

Will you be uploading the animation of the law enforcement response?
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Gonna be uploading the body cam footage later.

Will you be uploading the animation of the law enforcement response?

Most likely not. I'll probably use it in the next project I'll be doing on this shooting, but I won't upload the whole thing to my channel.

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Finally
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Gonna be uploading the body cam footage later.

Will you be uploading the animation of the law enforcement response?

Most likely not. I'll probably use it in the next project I'll be doing on this shooting, but I won't upload the whole thing to my channel.

It would interesting to have it compared it with the animation with Cruz inside Building 12 during the shooting, especially with movements of Hixon and Feis along with the other school staff during the initial attack. I presume that your next project is something similar?
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Gonna be uploading the body cam footage later.

Will you be uploading the animation of the law enforcement response?

Most likely not. I'll probably use it in the next project I'll be doing on this shooting, but I won't upload the whole thing to my channel.

It would interesting to have it compared it with the animation with Cruz inside Building 12 during the shooting, especially with movements of Hixon and Feis along with the other school staff during the initial attack. I presume that your next project is something similar?

Basically, yeah.

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Here are the body cam videos. Sorry for the quality, but this is the best I have for right now.














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Here are the body cam videos. Sorry for the quality, but this is the best I have for right now.















Nice! Thank you for taking the time to put this together. Very Happy
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So I'm gonna leave the previous video on unlisted, but here is the new video that is longer.


damn lucky dude in blue shirt who crosses his way when (what it seems) he's loading his weapon seconds before the shooting Shocked
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So I'm gonna leave the previous video on unlisted, but here is the new video that is longer.


damn lucky dude in blue shirt who crosses his way when (what it seems) he's loading his weapon seconds before the shooting Shocked
That's chris McKenna
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*This is just basically whats gonna be in the final report when it gets released early January 2019.
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*This is just basically whats gonna be in the final report when it gets released early January 2019.
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*This is just basically whats gonna be in the final report when it gets released early January 2019.

Early January?! Can't wait to see that!

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