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13 Families Documentary, Just Noticed Something Strange
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blueeyedskitzo2
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Subject: 13 Families Documentary, Just Noticed Something Strange Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:30 pm
So I was watching the 13 Families Documentary (which really is a fantastic look into the lives of the deceased students & Dave Sander's lives) and something caught my eye. Maybe you all can help explain this? I've tried to include a screenshot (not sure if it uploaded), but at 35 seconds into the documentary, there is a shot of officers using the fire truck as cover from potential fire from shooters. This is obviously the same day as the shooting on 4/20. So my question is, since it has been proven that Daniel Rohrbough's body wasn't moved off of the sidewalk (below the stairs) till 24 to 48 hours later, where is his body in this footage at 35 seconds? Look toward the right of the screen. Every other piece of footage that's aimed toward the stairs at this time clearly shows his body. Did the editor's digitally remove the body from the footage? That's all I can think of. And that would make sense if it were out of respect for Brian R and Sue Petrone, but if you also look at 01:57 in the same video, there's a bloody shot of Patrick Ireland on top of the SWAT vehicle and that wasn't edited out. Can someone please provide clarity on this? I'm not sure why Daniel's body is not in that footage. Or am I just crazy as hell?
Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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Subject: Re: 13 Families Documentary, Just Noticed Something Strange Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:39 pm
I think that’s a different entrance...
Danny was near stairs.
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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Subject: Re: 13 Families Documentary, Just Noticed Something Strange Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:41 pm
I hate to thread hijack but were Mr. Sanders, Rachel and Danny moved on the day of or were they left all night like the victims in the library?
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Subject: Re: 13 Families Documentary, Just Noticed Something Strange Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:44 pm
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Subject: Re: 13 Families Documentary, Just Noticed Something Strange Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:03 pm
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blueeyedskitzo2
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Subject: Re: 13 Families Documentary, Just Noticed Something Strange Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:36 pm
So then, I guess my question is, what else has been edited out of the footage we have seen over and over again. I’m wondering how much exterior news footage over the last 20 years we haven’t seen. For example, a clip surfaced in 2017 of the same fire truck moving Rachel and it was extremely close and crystal clear. You could see Richard on the bumper of the truck as well I believe. Speaking of Danny, there is also a very close helicopter fly by of his body. It’s difficult to write things like this out of respect for the deceased, but the investigative curiosity in my mind wants to know what was missed or kept from the public.
blueeyedskitzo2
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Subject: Re: 13 Families Documentary, Just Noticed Something Strange Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:42 pm
ScreamingOphelia, according to most all accounts, Danny was left outside for over 24 hours. I’m not sure how long they left Rachel out, and Dave’s body was gone by the time the SWAT (not Fire Department) video was made as Dave’s blood can be seen all over the floor in the science room where he eventually died. So if you can figure out a time stamp for the swat video, that may give you a better idea.
Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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Subject: Re: 13 Families Documentary, Just Noticed Something Strange Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:15 pm
blueeyedskitzo2 wrote:
ScreamingOphelia, according to most all accounts, Danny was left outside for over 24 hours. I’m not sure how long they left Rachel out, and Dave’s body was gone by the time the SWAT (not Fire Department) video was made as Dave’s blood can be seen all over the floor in the science room where he eventually died. So if you can figure out a time stamp for the swat video, that may give you a better idea.
Thanks.
I hate them being out all night outside. I know they were dead and they didn’t know... but I hate it
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HanShotFirst Top Contributor
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Subject: Re: 13 Families Documentary, Just Noticed Something Strange Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:52 am
Screamingophelia wrote:
I hate to thread hijack but were Mr. Sanders, Rachel and Danny moved on the day of or were they left all night like the victims in the library?
According to coroner notes on Rachel early decomposition had already begun because she was exposed to the elements so long, so I assumed her and Danny were left outside over nigjt
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Pixie13
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Subject: Re: 13 Families Documentary, Just Noticed Something Strange Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:28 am
Why did they leave them so long? I have never understood this.
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Subject: Re: 13 Families Documentary, Just Noticed Something Strange Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:47 am
Pixie13 wrote:
Why did they leave them so long? I have never understood this.
It was a lot of stuff to piece together. Investigators will only release a body to the coroner once the crime scene has been swept and they can accurately piece together where and what happened to the victim. I'm sure the swat team moving her body prolonged the process for the investigators as well.
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