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PostSubject: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeTue Jul 09, 2019 2:58 am

His rampage only lasted 6 minutes, he dropped his rifle and ran away before police even arrived. Why so quick? Was he low on ammo? Did he simply get bored and didn't want to kill anymore? Did anxiety kick in and decide he didn't wan't to fight the police?
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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 10, 2019 2:52 am

The reason he stopped shooting was because his gun jammed.

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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 10, 2019 3:54 am

@Tommy QTR wrote:
The reason he stopped shooting was because his gun jammed.

Oh pfff. Im sorry, I have short-term memory loss, thanks for the reminder. :p
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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 10, 2019 10:26 am

Take only one gun...What a clever man.

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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 10, 2019 11:35 am

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Take only one gun...What a clever man.
Only one gun would fit in his guitar case, and carrying two would slow him down.

He would also have to bring extra ammunition for his other weapon, so please tell me why would he take more than one gun?

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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 10, 2019 11:36 am

@Tommy QTR I don't agreed. If you suicidal, you should think that gun can be jammed.
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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 10, 2019 11:46 am

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@Tommy QTR I don't agreed. If you suicidal, you should think that gun can be jammed.
A lot of suicidal people don't rationally think but that's beside the point.

How could have he possibly took more one gun? where would have he hid it? And where would he put the extra ammunition?

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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 10, 2019 12:09 pm

@Tommy QTR you said some stupid questions.
He don't planned take another gun. And because that he can't take another gun.

But if he want take another gun with himself he can take another case/bag, take clothing with pockets, mini-bags on body. It's not hard.

And I really surprised that he was so suicidal and take one gun.
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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 10, 2019 12:25 pm

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@Tommy QTR you said some stupid questions.
He don't planned take another gun. And because that he can't take another gun.

But if he want take another gun with himself he can take another case/bag, take clothing with pockets, mini-bags on body. It's not hard.

And I really surprised that he was so suicidal and have one gun.
Well considering that the Uber driver was being suspicious as to why he had the guitar case, I'm pretty sure he would have been found out if he took another case or bag.

And there are plenty of suicidal shooters that have only took one gun.

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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 10, 2019 7:11 pm

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@Tommy QTR I don't agreed. If you suicidal, you should think that gun can be jammed.

...No?

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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 10, 2019 7:51 pm

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@Tommy QTR I don't agreed. If you suicidal, you should think that gun can be jammed.

Nikolas Cruz is not a very smart person since he is the same dumbass who wrote Quora questions about being a psychopath. I also believe that Nikolas Cruz wasn't planning suicide. Instead, I speculate Nikolas Cruz was planning to escape with an insanity plea. I speculate that even if he is suicidal, he didn't think of the possibility of his gun jamming on him but we'll only know during the trial.
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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeThu Jul 11, 2019 5:17 pm

I think he stopped shooting because he realised the police wern't there yet, and he decided to try and escape.
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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeFri Jul 12, 2019 3:56 am

If he would of kept shooting and killing to the very end as long as he could until he was forced to he stopped by police either by arrest or suicide like most other shooters he could of doubled his body count. He killed 17 in 6 minutes, the police entered after 11 minutes so he could of killed at least like 34.
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If he would of kept shooting and killing to the very end as long as he could until he was forced to he stopped by police either by arrest or suicide like most other shooters he could of doubled his body count. He killed 17 in 6 minutes, the police entered after 11 minutes so he could of killed at least like 34.
Most people where already hiding in closed classrooms or where out and the windows in the teachers lounge he tried to shot from didnt break.

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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeThu Jul 18, 2019 6:56 am

If he had actually entered a class room he could have gotten a much higher kill count, like Lanza or Cho. But he left I assume because he felt he had done enough damage and he didn’t want to get shot by the cops

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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeThu Jul 18, 2019 11:03 am

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Take only one gun...What a clever man.
Only one gun would fit in his guitar case, and carrying two would slow him down.

He would also have to bring extra ammunition for his other weapon, so please tell me why would he take more than one gun?
Precisely because of the situation he found himself in.

Adam Lanza brought along two handguns and a rifle, Micah Xavier Johnson brought along a handgun and a rifle, Brenton Tarrant brought along two shotguns and two rifles, Eric and Dylan brought a shotgun and a rifle as well as a handgun and a shotgun, Omar Mateen brought along a handgun and a rifle.

Why d'you think its such a spectacular prospect for Nikolas to have only brought his rifle with him?
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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeFri Jul 19, 2019 2:47 am

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Take only one gun...What a clever man.
Only one gun would fit in his guitar case, and carrying two would slow him down.

He would also have to bring extra ammunition for his other weapon, so please tell me why would he take more than one gun?
Precisely because of the situation he found himself in.

Adam Lanza brought along two handguns and a rifle, Micah Xavier Johnson brought along a handgun and a rifle, Brenton Tarrant brought along two shotguns and two rifles, Eric and Dylan brought a shotgun and a rifle as well as a handgun and a shotgun, Omar Mateen brought along a handgun and a rifle.

Why d'you think its such a spectacular prospect for Nikolas to have only brought his rifle with him?
All the shooters you mentioned had their own vehicles, Cruz on the other hand had to take an Uber to the school, and since the Uber driver was already asking why he had the guitar case and beginning to be suspicious of Cruz, and another case or bag would have brought on more suspicion. So even if Cruz could have took another gun, he wouldn't have.

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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeWed Oct 02, 2019 6:45 pm

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Take only one gun...What a clever man.
Only one gun would fit in his guitar case, and carrying two would slow him down.

He would also have to bring extra ammunition for his other weapon, so please tell me why would he take more than one gun?
Precisely because of the situation he found himself in.

Adam Lanza brought along two handguns and a rifle, Micah Xavier Johnson brought along a handgun and a rifle, Brenton Tarrant brought along two shotguns and two rifles, Eric and Dylan brought a shotgun and a rifle as well as a handgun and a shotgun, Omar Mateen brought along a handgun and a rifle.

Why d'you think its such a spectacular prospect for Nikolas to have only brought his rifle with him?
All the shooters you mentioned had their own vehicles, Cruz on the other hand had to take an Uber to the school, and since the Uber driver was already asking why he had the guitar case and beginning to be suspicious of Cruz, and another case or bag would have brought on more suspicion. So even if Cruz could have took another gun, he wouldn't have.
Cruz was too young for a handgun (legally)

I wonder if he wanted to snipe why didn't he bring his bolt action rifle along with the AR
I also wonder why he chose the AR over his AK
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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeMon Nov 18, 2019 3:38 am

"I also wonder why he chose the AR over his AK"
 
Probably just liked it more, also I don't think he ever shot his AK. In the police interview he said himself that he literally only shot his Smith & Wesson M&P 15 twice, and that was in his garage (very reckless). So it is likely he never shot his AK at all. Additionally, in his internet search history his history included an article called "How the AR-15 Became Mass Shooters’ Weapon of Choice", he read this on February 10th or 11th, additionally, the 11th is the day he recorded his vlogs(?, I don't know what to call them) and in the vlogs he says "Unload my bags, and get my AR...", so that article might have influenced his decision.

"The reason he stopped shooting was because his gun jammed."

I have heard this said before but there is no evidence for this.

The reason he stopped shooting is because his main plan was to shoot people that were fleeing (Charles Whitman style, Cruz made a YouTube comment (quite disturbingly) saying "I am going to do what he did", and when the hurricane proof glass did not allow for him to shoot the people down at the courtyard, he decided that it was over and he fled the scene.

I do not believe he ever planned to commit suicide, he wrote on a note on his phone that he wanted Angie (a 15 yr old girl he was harassing and obsessing over) to come see him: "If I don't die [Angie] please see me." Suggesting that he was planning on not dying.
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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeSun Apr 25, 2021 10:56 pm

probably also because he thought he would have enough time to escape from the police

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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeMon Apr 26, 2021 12:27 am

Perhaps the realisation of what he'd done hit him

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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeMon Apr 26, 2021 1:15 pm

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Perhaps the realisation of what he'd done hit him

I doubt it, he probably doesn't even have the mental capacity to ever truly understand what he did.


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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeMon Apr 26, 2021 8:47 pm

Probably was out of targets/heard the cops/maybe was having overheating problems (that one's pure speculation). I imagine he was really disappointed that the storm proof glass stopped his bullets and the adrenaline was probably wearing down.

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PostSubject: Re: Why do you think Nik stopped shooting?   Why do you think Nik stopped shooting? Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 6:34 pm

I think the way the buildings in that school are set up, that he ran out of targets and knew the police where there. He would have to go to another building to start again and be out in the open. That is why he fled to the nearby neighborhood.

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