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PostSubject: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2020 6:35 pm

Hey everyone, as someone on one of Bill Ockham's Twitter posts pointed out in a comment, there is someone on YouTube claiming to have copies of the tapes. He claims his father was a criminal psychologist and that when his father passed away, he found copies of the tapes in his safe along with other unreleased content. He says he'll release all the footage if his original YouTube comment gets 1000 likes.

Now, I know it sounds crazy, and that there is 99% probability of it being bullshi*t. Which is what I thought at first, until I read the rest of his comments, which are not totally absurd. There is still this 1% of me thinking "what if?". This person actually kept his stance for two years and just started commenting again yesterday, replying the same thing, that he would release them after 1000 likes. If each of us gives him a like we could reach 1000 quickly, shall we see if this is true?

He goes by the username Peter Griffin. Judge for yourself here in the comments:
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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2020 8:06 pm

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it were true. It's a pretty crazy thing to lie about just for internet points (but it happens). He said he is scared to release them because of legal action, which I perfectly understand, but that guy would become a saint to the true crime community. I'm sure there are a couple others out there that remain professional and don't want to release them for the same reasons.

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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2020 8:59 pm

They are obviously lying for attention and/or gratification. They were destroyed years ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2020 9:03 pm

True, good point. But then again if it is true, it's so weird. Why risk legal action just for likes? Why would he care so much about them? And why specifically 1000?

Hope we can at least reach the 1000 to see what happens, together we could easily reach the count.
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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2020 9:04 pm

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True, good point. But then again if it is true, it's so weird. Why risk legal action just for likes? Why would he care so much about them? And why specifically 1000?

Hope we can at least reach the 1000 to see what happens, together we could easily reach the count.
Have they provided proof of their father's occupation or is it just hot air? They have to offer something more substantiated than their word if we are going to believe what they're saying is true.
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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2020 9:17 pm

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They are obviously lying for attention and/or gratification. They were destroyed years ago.

Shouldn't just believe everything Jeffco says. It is well known that Jeffco has lied numerous times and tried to cover their asses about the case throughout the years. They obviously have lots more content that is hidden from the public for fear of lawsuits. When they announced that they "destroyed" the tapes, it sounded like they were just tired of getting requests about the tapes and said it so that people would stop inquiring about them. Also, even if they really were destroyed, digitized copies definitely exist, especially for a case of this magitude. Is has been explained why and it is not hard to find proof suggesting that the FBI and the courts have copies.

Anyway, back to the YouTube comment, he does not seem like he's lying if you look at all his comments. A big part of me still thinks it's bullshit, but, we NEVER know Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2020 9:33 pm

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Ivan wrote:
They are obviously lying for attention and/or gratification. They were destroyed years ago.

Shouldn't just believe everything Jeffco says. It is well known that Jeffco has lied numerous times and tried to cover their asses about the case throughout the years. They obviously have lots more content that is hidden from the public for fear of lawsuits. When they announced that they "destroyed" the tapes, it sounded like they were just tired of getting requests about the tapes and said it so that people would stop inquiring about them. Also, even if they really were destroyed, digitized copies definitely exist, especially for a case of this magitude. Is has been explained why and it is not hard to find proof suggesting that the FBI and the courts have copies.

Anyway, back to the YouTube comment, he does not seem like he's lying if you look at all his comments. A big part of me still thinks it's bullshit, but, we NEVER know Smile
Read my other reply. For the record I'd believe Jeffco over some random guy on Youtube claiming to have the tapes.
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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2020 9:53 pm

On Youtube:
Columbine Video Archives 42 minutes ago
Send me a screen shot and I'll get you 20,000 likes.

This should be enough. If this doesn't happen then that will be proof enough.

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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2020 10:34 pm

Ivan wrote:
srems wrote:
Ivan wrote:
They are obviously lying for attention and/or gratification. They were destroyed years ago.

Shouldn't just believe everything Jeffco says. It is well known that Jeffco has lied numerous times and tried to cover their asses about the case throughout the years. They obviously have lots more content that is hidden from the public for fear of lawsuits. When they announced that they "destroyed" the tapes, it sounded like they were just tired of getting requests about the tapes and said it so that people would stop inquiring about them. Also, even if they really were destroyed, digitized copies definitely exist, especially for a case of this magitude. Is has been explained why and it is not hard to find proof suggesting that the FBI and the courts have copies.

Anyway, back to the YouTube comment, he does not seem like he's lying if you look at all his comments. A big part of me still thinks it's bullshit, but, we NEVER know Smile
Read my other reply. For the record I'd believe Jeffco over some random guy on Youtube claiming to have the tapes.

One random guy is all it takes. Many unreleased footage from previous cases were leaked because someone stumbled across copies. I'd actually believe that over the most corrupt PD, and who knows, he may not be so random.

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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeTue Dec 15, 2020 11:17 pm

Liked just in case.
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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2020 1:21 am

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On Youtube:
Columbine Video Archives 42 minutes ago
Send me a screen shot and I'll get you 20,000 likes.

This should be enough. If this doesn't happen then that will be proof enough.
Lol. Nice one, CVA. He's not buying it. Pretty sure the guy is lying. Why would you need "likes" to release something? It's dumb. I'm tired of these people always claiming to have stuff but never backing it up with proof. If you have it, then release it and if you're not gonna release it, don't talk about it. Like Randy. Always going on and on about what he has and what he's seen. Release it or I don't believe you. Brooks learned to become a liar from someone.

Also, "Peter Griffin"? A cartoon character? Lol. Come on, now.

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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2020 2:38 am

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Come on, now.

You reminded me of this. I call it, The Liars Hotline.

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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2020 3:23 am

srems wrote:
Ivan wrote:
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Ivan wrote:
They are obviously lying for attention and/or gratification. They were destroyed years ago.

Shouldn't just believe everything Jeffco says. It is well known that Jeffco has lied numerous times and tried to cover their asses about the case throughout the years. They obviously have lots more content that is hidden from the public for fear of lawsuits. When they announced that they "destroyed" the tapes, it sounded like they were just tired of getting requests about the tapes and said it so that people would stop inquiring about them. Also, even if they really were destroyed, digitized copies definitely exist, especially for a case of this magitude. Is has been explained why and it is not hard to find proof suggesting that the FBI and the courts have copies.

Anyway, back to the YouTube comment, he does not seem like he's lying if you look at all his comments. A big part of me still thinks it's bullshit, but, we NEVER know Smile
Read my other reply. For the record I'd believe Jeffco over some random guy on Youtube claiming to have the tapes.

One random guy is all it takes. Many unreleased footage from previous cases were leaked because someone stumbled across copies. I'd actually believe that over the most corrupt PD, and who knows, he may not be so random.
Know how many times I've heard this same story over the years?
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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2020 7:21 am

Jenn wrote:
GrayFox wrote:
On Youtube:
Columbine Video Archives 42 minutes ago
Send me a screen shot and I'll get you 20,000 likes.

This should be enough. If this doesn't happen then that will be proof enough.
Lol. Nice one, CVA. He's not buying it. Pretty sure the guy is lying. Why would you need "likes" to release something? It's dumb. I'm tired of these people always claiming to have stuff but never backing it up with proof. If you have it, then release it and if you're not gonna release it, don't talk about it. Like Randy. Always going on and on about what he has and what he's seen. Release it or I don't believe you. Brooks learned to become a liar from someone.

Also, "Peter Griffin"? A cartoon character? Lol. Come on, now.

I agree, just release it if you have it. That's what everyone on YouTube is telling him (go read the comments, it makes this whole thing seem less stupid haha). I know the "likes" things is stupid, but people sometimes are just dumb, or don't make sense. I don't think it's just as simple as "release it or I don't believe you". Like someone said earlier, I'm sure there are a few people that have access to copies but won't release because they are afraid of repercussions. Also, I don't think someone's username makes anything less possible. Just saying, we never know.

CVA still took a shot at it! Let's see if anything happens.
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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2020 3:17 pm

srems wrote:
Jenn wrote:
GrayFox wrote:
On Youtube:
Columbine Video Archives 42 minutes ago
Send me a screen shot and I'll get you 20,000 likes.

This should be enough. If this doesn't happen then that will be proof enough.
Lol. Nice one, CVA. He's not buying it. Pretty sure the guy is lying. Why would you need "likes" to release something? It's dumb. I'm tired of these people always claiming to have stuff but never backing it up with proof. If you have it, then release it and if you're not gonna release it, don't talk about it. Like Randy. Always going on and on about what he has and what he's seen. Release it or I don't believe you. Brooks learned to become a liar from someone.

Also, "Peter Griffin"? A cartoon character? Lol. Come on, now.

I agree, just release it if you have it. That's what everyone on YouTube is telling him (go read the comments, it makes this whole thing seem less stupid haha). I know the "likes" things is stupid, but people sometimes are just dumb, or don't make sense. I don't think it's just as simple as "release it or I don't believe you". Like someone said earlier, I'm sure there are a few people that have access to copies but won't release because they are afraid of repercussions. Also, I don't think someone's username makes anything less possible. Just saying, we never know.

CVA still took a shot at it! Let's see if anything happens.
So picture this scenario.

I have the Basement Tapes and I wanna share them but I'm scared to because I don't want to get in trouble with law enforcement or have the FBI looking into me or whatever. Alright, fine, that's understandable. So how is going onto YouTube and saying "look I have these videos, I'm scared to release them because I don't wanna get in trouble, but if I get 1000 likes I'll release them" going to make me any less scared to release them or any less likely to get in trouble for releasing them? It doesn't make any sense.

People are gonna think I'm nuts or a troll. Understandably.

So I still think if you have them and wanna talk about how you have them, release them.
If you're not gonna release them then don't make posts about how you have them because it's pointless, a waste of everyone's time and no one is really gonna believe you without proof anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2020 5:47 pm

using likes as a way to release material is honestly stupid, especially if you are scared of releasing them. likes on youtube mean nothing in the real world, whereas if this guy were to release the tapes and get in trouble, then yeah, that means something in the real world. also isn't the orginal comment from 'Peter Griffin' two years old now? I agree with most of the other people on this thread that this is just a way to get dumb youtube likes.

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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2020 5:59 pm

It's 99.99% fake. However, crazier things have happened. For example, after Marvin Heemeyer went on his rampage in 2004, i.e. "Killdozer", the Grand County Sheriff's Office took possession of his audio tapes/manifesto. The Killdozer tapes were tightly sealed by the Grand County Sheriff's Office. However, on March 31, 2018, an anonymous YouTube user "Luke M" released the tapes in full on YouTube. The rest is history and the tapes are everywhere.

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I would poop my pants if it were true.
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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2020 10:32 pm

This reminds me of a guy on a comment section from a Randy Stair video. He claims to have seen Stair’s live-streamed suicide, on a class or something like that. It sounds fake as all hell… but you never know.
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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2020 11:24 pm

The comment is from two years ago. I doubt they have them.
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PostSubject: Re: Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes   Person claiming to have copies of the Basement Tapes Icon_minitimeWed Dec 16, 2020 11:40 pm

Hypothetical question/scenario here...

JSCO apparently has the option to release the tapes (video and audio) at any time. I know one report says Ted Mink was given the option to release them in 2006, but declined with his "copycat" excuse.

He then authorized the tapes to be destroyed in 2011, which some people believe happened and some people don't.

Well...Ted Mink isn't the sheriff anymore - Jeff Shrader is...and maybe he feels differently about the evidence...has anyone filed a FOIA request recently?
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The comment is from two years ago. I doubt they have them.

He has responded since and still wants his likes.

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Intothenever wrote:
The comment is from two years ago. I doubt they have them.

Exactly, he's kept his stance for two years, why would somebody keep this up for that long. Still hasn't gotten the likes, and he's been commenting again since this week. Probably fake but then again, who knows.
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Fake. Very sad people do this for attention

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