Are school shootings "old news" now?

Are school shootings so "yesterday"?

Remember in the 90's and 2000's when people would actually be shocked by school shootings. Now it seems like there's one every other month. They've become old news and uncreative. People usually do them because they desire fame and notoriety but how many fan clubs are there for Adam Lanza, Nicolas Cruz or any of the modern school shooters compared to Eric and Dylan for instance? It seems like Eric and Dylan were the OG's of this trend. They were the first and they made it "a thing". With christian culture and Marilyn Manson being blamed for everything it seemed that this peaked in the 90's and 2000's for some reason.

Somebody recently made a video and made a really good point on school shootings that we've become so use to them now that they just seem "uncreative" and copycat like with absolutely no thought put into them. Now, to be famous you either have to have a high body count or make what you do really different.

I agree that they are more common place today then maybe twenty years ago, but I don't think they are done to become famous (perhaps some are). I believe the perpetrators use this as a platform to be heard or voice their frustration or hatred. So many of these school shootings took place at time when bullying was not taken seriously or these kids felt like no one was hearing them or seeing them in the main stream hierarchy of the student body, so in an effort to be "heard" they commit these acts as statements.

Not saying you or the video is wring, just my two cents.

That is precisely why--because we've grown extra sick of them and insulated against them emotionally. I can't even name the perpetrators of the last few.
And of course Columbine had the teen soap opera element that plays on the mind of anyone who has any bad memories of high school whatsoever.

I thought COVID had kind of put a damper on shootings anyway.

I think with covid going on the school shootings will slow down for the next few years, especially with the extra presence in a lot of American schools out there as well. I don’t think they’ll completely die down though.

It always gets swept under the rug when a major shooting doesn't happen for awhile (mass murders in schools are extremely rare so these periods are usually long), but whenever it DOES happen, the media will sensationalize it, people will discuss it, and politicians will start doing their thing.

Carnifex879 wrote:

It always gets swept under the rug when a major shooting doesn't happen for awhile (mass murders in schools are extremely rare so these periods are usually long), but whenever it DOES happen, the media will sensationalize it, people will discuss it, and politicians will start doing their thing.

And considering how partisan politics has gotten, when the politicians start coming out with new plans and policies it means a lot more acrimony than ever before.

QuestionMark wrote:

Carnifex879 wrote:

It always gets swept under the rug when a major shooting doesn't happen for awhile (mass murders in schools are extremely rare so these periods are usually long), but whenever it DOES happen, the media will sensationalize it, people will discuss it, and politicians will start doing their thing.

And considering how partisan politics has gotten, when the politicians start coming out with new plans and policies it means a lot more acrimony than ever before.

Glad to see you got unbanned. Fuck Ivan.

there are shootings that are totally forgotten or are very little known. I do not know if this is because they were before 1999 and were "covered" by the columbine incident, but there were also some recent ones that are not talked about much or are not very media and are overlooked. In fact, I'm not very involved in the case but, I remember that in the case of Devon Erickson the media only looked at him, because he was "Gay" and they even said he was a kind of youtuber, but they don't pay attention to true causes of the attack, in fact I think there was a 2nd perpetrator that the media did not talk too much about

margaflor wrote:

there are shootings that are totally forgotten or are very little known.  I do not know if this is because they were before 1999 and were "covered" by the columbine incident, but there were also some recent ones that are not talked about much or are not very media and are overlooked.  In fact, I'm not very involved in the case but, I remember that in the case of Devon Erickson the media only looked at him, because he was "Gay" and they even said he was a kind of youtuber, but they don't pay attention to  true causes of the attack, in fact I think there was a 2nd perpetrator that the media did not talk too much about

The STEM shooting was also a relatively low casualty event (only one dead), so that definitely played a role in the attention given. Even so, I've noticed that many high casualty attacks are forgotten about regularly, and none have managed to get the same attention as Columbine.

QuestionMark wrote:

margaflor wrote:

there are shootings that are totally forgotten or are very little known.  I do not know if this is because they were before 1999 and were "covered" by the columbine incident, but there were also some recent ones that are not talked about much or are not very media and are overlooked.  In fact, I'm not very involved in the case but, I remember that in the case of Devon Erickson the media only looked at him, because he was "Gay" and they even said he was a kind of youtuber, but they don't pay attention to  true causes of the attack, in fact I think there was a 2nd perpetrator that the media did not talk too much about

The STEM shooting was also a relatively low casualty event (only one dead), so that definitely played a role in the attention given. Even so, I've noticed that many high casualty attacks are forgotten about regularly, and none have managed to get the same attention as Columbine.

That is true, I do not want to say things that are not true but, if I am not mistaken, the attack on Oklahoma City was not as mediatic as columbine was, or for example, virginia tech did not get as mediatic as columbine was, it is strange why, maybe because they are only in charge of crossing them out as "imitators" and for them it is a solved problem, or maybe because they cannot get as much sensationalism as happened with that tragedy ... Vladislav Roslyakov has not had too much attention from the multinational media, at least in my country I have seen almost nothing about him in the media, and I only saw 1 single documentary about the one I found in my Tumblr eras, and I think that documentary was homemade, but they interviewed Vlad's mother among other things ... And let's say that the attack in Kech had much more deaths than columbine and did not receive the same attention at all

Many school shootings/ mass shootings that have very little information on them don't get covered as much. With major shootings such as Columbine and Parkland there was so much information there that the media had no other choice than to talk about them and give them so much attention. Also Columbine was the first shooting of it's kind so that was bound to pick up some media attention.

lognifiiskurk wrote:

Many school shootings/ mass shootings that have very little information on them don't get covered as much. With major shootings such as Columbine and Parkland there was so much information there that the media had no other choice than to talk about them and give them so much attention. Also Columbine was the first shooting of it's kind so that was bound to pick up some media attention.

It also depends on what type of shooting it was and the location. I think Columbine and Parkland got so much attention because they happened at high schools and the death tolls were very high compared to other ones.

I still find them interesting. Why else would I be on this forum?

Not to me. I'm still looking into the Frank James case, the Ethan Crumbley case, Orlando Harris, Robbie Crimo.

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All modern school Shooters are pathetic boring copycats that lack originality.

Columbine is the one an only

Alexz wrote:

Columbine is the one an only

Even though they epically failed with their original plan.....

Columbine only served to destroy some genetic lines. apart from that, nothing else.