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PostSubject: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 5:29 am

Russia school shooting: At least 11 killed in Kazan attack

A former pupil attacked the secondary school in Tatarstan, central Russia early on Tuesday morning.
At least eleven people have died after a school shooting incident in Kazan, Russia’s fifth city.
Preliminary reports suggested two gunmen attacked Secondary School number 175, on Dzhaudata Faizi street early on Tuesday morning. That initial information was later contradicted by a spokesman for local police, who said there was a lone attacker.

Local media named the gunman as 19-year old Ilnaz Galyaliyev, a former pupil at the school.

Mr Galyaliyev is believed to have who entered the school by its main entrance, before firing rounds from an automatic firearm. An explosion was also heard.

Distressing footage distributed on social media shows schoolchildren jumping from the top floors to the ground below — and then, bloodied, receiving emergency first aid below. The injuries were fatal in at least two cases.

Other children were evacuated via ladders provided by fire engines.

The Kremlin said Vladimir Putin had been informed of the incident, and had ordered a review into public gun ownership. Assault firearms were being incorrectly registered as hunting rifles, spokesman Dmitry Peskov suggested.

Earlier, Rustam Minnikhanov, head of the local Tatarstan republic, said the firearms used in the attack had been legally registered.

School shootings are relatively rare in Russia, but authorities have been on guard since a 2018 incident at a polytechnic college in Kerch, Crimea.

That shooting left 20 people dead, the greatest number lost to school violence since the 2004 Beslan terror attack, where 333 died.

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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 5:34 am

It's fairly common to see people in Russia convert automatic firearms to semi-auto, that's where "hunting" DP-28s come from.



This video gives a good breakdown on their laws.

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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 5:48 am

That guy even wrote a post in his public Telegram channel saying he was going to kill everyone and nobody paid attention to that.
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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 6:11 am

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Fucking scumbag targeted literal middle school aged kids, and elementary aged kids.
GRAPHIC crime scene photo i found.


Holy fuck. Do you reckon we'll ever get all of the Kerch crime scene photos?
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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 6:12 am

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That guy even wrote a post in his public Telegram channel saying he was going to kill everyone and nobody paid attention to that.

That's just an average day on Telegram.

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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 6:22 am

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That guy even wrote a post in his public Telegram channel saying he was going to kill everyone and nobody paid attention to that.

That's just an average day on Telegram.

Here goes the perpetrator.
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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 6:57 am

Jesus Christ, that picture it’s fucked up.

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Also, you guys should edit out the gory picture, and send it through private if anybody ask for it.


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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 7:07 am

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The gun that he used

Vlad Roslyakov used the same gun if I'm not mistaken.
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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 9:59 am

He said he is God. His name is Il'naz Galyaviyev (Ильназ Галявиев)
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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 11:08 am

The deathtoll is 2 adults, 7 children and 21 injuted.

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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 11:14 am

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The gun that he used

Vlad Roslyakov used the same gun if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, apparently it is a Hatsan Escort shotgun, although I dont know if is the exact same type of Hatsan Escort shotgun Vladislav used. So Idk

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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 11:18 am

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The gun that he used

Vlad Roslyakov used the same gun if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, apparently it is a Hatsan Escort shotgun, although I dont know if is the exact same type of Hatsan Escort shotgun Vladislav used. So Idk

Is it a common gun in Russia, or is it more likely that it was deliberately bought as an homage?
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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 1:06 pm

The shooter climbing the school stairs:
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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 2:18 pm

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Holy fuck. Do you reckon we'll ever get all of the Kerch crime scene photos?
Isn't there a video of students running down the stairs and seeing dead bodies? I think that's the closest we'll ever get to full crime scene photos.


Here's his interrogation by police. Seems either delusional or has some serious mental issue going on. He was diagnosed with a brain tumor (non cancerous) so that may be a contributing factor in what he did and what he thinks about himself.

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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 2:23 pm

I saw a video of 2 children jumping out of the window to flee from the shooter, the children died on impact. It's really sad.

I found it curious that the shooter has denied having a mother, or denying his own mother. I wonder if he was suffering from some kind of severe mental problem.
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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 2:58 pm

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That guy even wrote a post in his public Telegram channel saying he was going to kill everyone and nobody paid attention to that.

Yeah according to German media, he referred to himself as "God" and announced a shooting spree, saying how he wanted to get rid of "organic waste".
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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeTue May 11, 2021 5:32 pm

He was born on 11 September 2001. A strange coincidence.
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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeWed May 12, 2021 5:48 am

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The gun that he used

Vlad Roslyakov used the same gun if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, apparently it is a Hatsan Escort shotgun, although I dont know if is the exact same type of Hatsan Escort shotgun Vladislav used. So Idk

Is it a common gun in Russia, or is it more likely that it was deliberately bought as an homage?

It's a common shotgun in Russia because they're so cheap (around $280 but you also have to take into consideration the low monthly wages in Russia)
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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeWed May 12, 2021 5:49 am

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The gun that he used

Vlad Roslyakov used the same gun if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, apparently it is a Hatsan Escort shotgun, although I dont know if is the exact same type of Hatsan Escort shotgun Vladislav used. So Idk

Vlad used a pump action, this guy used a semi-auto.

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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeWed May 12, 2021 10:17 am

A new photo of the shooter:
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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeWed May 12, 2021 10:47 am

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Another photo that I found

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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeWed May 12, 2021 11:06 am

In court!
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Holy fuck. Do you reckon we'll ever get all of the Kerch crime scene photos?
Isn't there a video of students running down the stairs and seeing dead bodies? I think that's the closest we'll ever get to full crime scene photos.


Here's his interrogation by police. Seems either delusional or has some serious mental issue going on. He was diagnosed with a brain tumor (non cancerous) so that may be a contributing factor in what he did and what he thinks about himself.
From what I've seen, he's just trying to act edgy by calling himself "a God". He probably has some "mental issues" but I doubt he truly believes he's a God, or that he's insane. He sounds like a typical Columbine, Eric Harris, and Vladislav Roslyakov copycat shooter.

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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeWed May 12, 2021 1:29 pm

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I saw a video of 2 children jumping out of the window to flee from the shooter, the children died on impact.  It's really sad.

Are you sure it was actual footage? Most schools in the post-sovieto-sphere are similar and almost never higher than 3 floors.
I found a photo of this specific school:
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While its always possible for someone to die if he/she lands particularly badly, I would reckon most people should survive a jump from the 3rd floor onto the grass below.

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The gun that he used

Vlad Roslyakov used the same gun if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, apparently it is a Hatsan Escort shotgun, although I dont know if is the exact same type of Hatsan Escort shotgun Vladislav used. So Idk

Vlad used a pump action, this guy used a semi-auto.
IIRC Vlad had an Hatsan Escort Aimguard pump action and the Kazan shooter had an Hatsan Escort PS semi auto

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I saw a video of 2 children jumping out of the window to flee from the shooter, the children died on impact.  It's really sad.

Are you sure it was actual footage? Most schools in the post-sovieto-sphere are similar and almost never higher than 3 floors.
I found a photo of this specific school:
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While its always possible for someone to die if he/she lands particularly badly, I would reckon most people should survive a jump from the 3rd floor onto the grass below.

Yes, it is actual footage and you can actually find it on YouTube, if it hasn't been taken down by now. But as far as I could see, the kids jumped with quite a lot of speed and since it was on the backside of the school, the ground they landed on was probably concrete instead of grass.

So yeah, the impact was definitely bad enough for them to die.

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I saw a video of 2 children jumping out of the window to flee from the shooter, the children died on impact.  It's really sad.

Are you sure it was actual footage? Most schools in the post-sovieto-sphere are similar and almost never higher than 3 floors.
I found a photo of this specific school:
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While its always possible for someone to die if he/she lands particularly badly, I would reckon most people should survive a jump from the 3rd floor onto the grass below.

Yes, it is actual footage and you can actually find it on YouTube, if it hasn't been taken down by now. But as far as I could see, the kids jumped with quite a lot of speed and since it was on the backside of the school, the ground they landed on was probably concrete instead of grass.

So yeah, the impact was definitely bad enough for them to die.

Hmmm... These schools are symmetrical (I went to a smaller, more rectangular version of one). There should be a patch of grass all around the school under all windows, except of course above the entrances. But the windows above the entrances go out into the smaller roofs above each entrance.

Here's the photo of the same place from the other angle:
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Again, not saying its not possible for someone to die jumping out of a 3rd floor window (certainly most people would end up with broken legs, ankles and possibly spinal injuries). I'm also not saying that nobody jumped during the shooting.

I just find it suspicious that two separate people would die after jumping out from the 3rd floor onto grass. I'm thinking this may be a media flap - that the people who jumped already sustained gunshot wounds and died of bloodloss rather than from the impact.


I'm no medical expert, so the best on "falling damage" I could find on a short notice is a quora post:
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I saw a video of 2 children jumping out of the window to flee from the shooter, the children died on impact.  It's really sad.

Are you sure it was actual footage? Most schools in the post-sovieto-sphere are similar and almost never higher than 3 floors.
I found a photo of this specific school:
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While its always possible for someone to die if he/she lands particularly badly, I would reckon most people should survive a jump from the 3rd floor onto the grass below.

Yes, it is actual footage and you can actually find it on YouTube, if it hasn't been taken down by now. But as far as I could see, the kids jumped with quite a lot of speed and since it was on the backside of the school, the ground they landed on was probably concrete instead of grass.

So yeah, the impact was definitely bad enough for them to die.

Hmmm... These schools are symmetrical (I went to a smaller, more rectangular version of one). There should be a patch of grass all around the school under all windows, except of course above the entrances. But the windows above the entrances go out into the smaller roofs above each entrance.

Here's the photo of the same place from the other angle:
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Again, not saying its not possible for someone to die jumping out of a 3rd floor window (certainly most people would end up with broken legs, ankles and possibly spinal injuries). I'm also not saying that nobody jumped during the shooting.

I just find it suspicious that two separate people would die after jumping out from the 3rd floor onto grass. I'm thinking this may be a media flap - that the people who jumped already sustained gunshot wounds and died of bloodloss rather than from the impact.


I'm no medical expert, so the best on "falling damage" I could find on a short notice is a quora post:
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they could have actually ran through the window while trying to escape.
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I saw a video of 2 children jumping out of the window to flee from the shooter, the children died on impact.  It's really sad.

Are you sure it was actual footage? Most schools in the post-sovieto-sphere are similar and almost never higher than 3 floors.
I found a photo of this specific school:
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While its always possible for someone to die if he/she lands particularly badly, I would reckon most people should survive a jump from the 3rd floor onto the grass below.

Yes, it is actual footage and you can actually find it on YouTube, if it hasn't been taken down by now. But as far as I could see, the kids jumped with quite a lot of speed and since it was on the backside of the school, the ground they landed on was probably concrete instead of grass.

So yeah, the impact was definitely bad enough for them to die.

Hmmm... These schools are symmetrical (I went to a smaller, more rectangular version of one). There should be a patch of grass all around the school under all windows, except of course above the entrances. But the windows above the entrances go out into the smaller roofs above each entrance.

Here's the photo of the same place from the other angle:
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Again, not saying its not possible for someone to die jumping out of a 3rd floor window (certainly most people would end up with broken legs, ankles and possibly spinal injuries). I'm also not saying that nobody jumped during the shooting.

I just find it suspicious that two separate people would die after jumping out from the 3rd floor onto grass. I'm thinking this may be a media flap - that the people who jumped already sustained gunshot wounds and died of bloodloss rather than from the impact.


I'm no medical expert, so the best on "falling damage" I could find on a short notice is a quora post:
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they could have actually ran through the window while trying to escape.


That is what I think, seen in the video some shotguns round going trought the window, maybe the shotter tried to shoot those kids and in the desesperation they jumped out the window
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they could have actually ran through the window while trying to escape.

I haven't been in that specific Kazan school, but schools like that usually do not have windows low enough for people to simply run into them. If you want to get out, you would need to pull yourself up to the window sill first.

My school had a window that started only some 1.1 meter from the floor, plus there was a wide windowsill made of thick terrazzo.
When people wanted to get out through the window (at ground floor obviously during usual shenanigans), we would actually pull a chair and use that to climb the sill.


All these public communist buildings are similar. So all I'm saying - its very unlikely someone would be able to randomly fall out of the window. That would have been a deliberate attempt to get away on the part of the student.

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Certainly surreal to watch kids just jump out of the windows like that. Must have been terrifying being faced with the choice of possibly being shot or possibly dying trying to escape.

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I found that first photo pretty funny. Makes him look like a popular ladies man, but he probably wasn’t.

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It's a shame that some of these photos have those atrocious-looking watermarks on them.


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A video showing his way to school:

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It's truly INSANE that people actually saw a guy carrying a gun and nobody paid any attention.

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I found that first photo pretty funny. Makes him look like a popular ladies man, but he probably wasn’t.

Looks like regular "people from the class" photos. I probably have 4 dozen such photos lying around somewhere from my school days. Certainly wouldn't be an evidence either of popularity or the lack of it. I doubt Russian culture would be any different than Polish culture in that respect.

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It's truly INSANE that people actually saw a guy carrying a gun and nobody paid any attention.
I guess people likely thought it is an airsoft (ASG) gun. ASG is pretty popular in central and eastern Europe.

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I saw a video of 2 children jumping out of the window to flee from the shooter, the children died on impact.  It's really sad.

Are you sure it was actual footage? Most schools in the post-sovieto-sphere are similar and almost never higher than 3 floors.
I found a photo of this specific school:
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While its always possible for someone to die if he/she lands particularly badly, I would reckon most people should survive a jump from the 3rd floor onto the grass below.

Yes, it is actual footage and you can actually find it on YouTube, if it hasn't been taken down by now. But as far as I could see, the kids jumped with quite a lot of speed and since it was on the backside of the school, the ground they landed on was probably concrete instead of grass.

So yeah, the impact was definitely bad enough for them to die.

Hmmm... These schools are symmetrical (I went to a smaller, more rectangular version of one). There should be a patch of grass all around the school under all windows, except of course above the entrances. But the windows above the entrances go out into the smaller roofs above each entrance.

Here's the photo of the same place from the other angle:
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Again, not saying its not possible for someone to die jumping out of a 3rd floor window (certainly most people would end up with broken legs, ankles and possibly spinal injuries). I'm also not saying that nobody jumped during the shooting.

I just find it suspicious that two separate people would die after jumping out from the 3rd floor onto grass. I'm thinking this may be a media flap - that the people who jumped already sustained gunshot wounds and died of bloodloss rather than from the impact.


I'm no medical expert, so the best on "falling damage" I could find on a short notice is a quora post:
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He shot one of the kids that jumped out of the windows but missed the second.
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I found that first photo pretty funny. Makes him look like a popular ladies man, but he probably wasn’t.

Looks like regular "people from the class" photos. I probably have 4 dozen such photos lying around somewhere from my school days. Certainly wouldn't be an evidence either of popularity or the lack of it. I doubt Russian culture would be any different than Polish culture in that respect.
Well, the bottom photo with all of the students together looks normal, but the group of girls around him in the first photo looked like they were into him, (probably in a harmless joking way) but that’s just how I saw it.

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A childhood photo:
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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeFri May 14, 2021 7:39 pm

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It's truly INSANE that people actually saw a guy carrying a gun and nobody paid any attention.
I guess people likely thought it is an airsoft (ASG) gun. ASG is pretty popular in central and eastern Europe.

I'm guessing it was something like this. This isn't America where people would be more alert to the thought of a shooting spree. I also can't see it very well from the blurry, taken from a distance videos, but he looks vaguely like a kind of police officer in the footage I've seen. Most people were probably dismissive from that alone.

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Elvira Ignatyeva, an English teacher who tried to save the pupils.
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"Elvira Ignatyeva, a 25-year-old English teacher, was killed trying to shield one of the children, a police source told Tass news agency, quoting eyewitnesses.

She had pushed the child out of the way in a corridor and tried to block the gunman but was shot and mortally wounded, the source said.

On her Instagram account, Ms Ignatyeva had often posted upbeat messages over photos of herself enjoying walks and nights out.

"It's not that hard to make your life happy," she wrote on 1 February. You just need to stop thinking that happiness is only possible somewhere over there, in the future, and learn to enjoy every actual minute, here and now..."

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Recently people conducted a search in his flat and now Ilnaz's favourite door is gone forever. :'(
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PostSubject: Re: Kazan School Shooting   Kazan School Shooting Icon_minitimeWed Jul 21, 2021 7:38 am

Ilnaz Galyaviev was declared insane.

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"Ilnaz Galyaviev, a person who committed a school shooting in Kazan and murdered 10 people on the 11th of May, 2021, was declared insane. The conclusive report was made by The Serbsky State Scientific Center for Social and Forensic Psychiatry".


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Ilnaz Galyaviev pleaded insanity.

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"Ilnaz Galyaviev, a person who committed a school shooting in Kazan and murdered 10 people on the 11th of May, 2021, pleaded insanity. The conclusive report was made by The Serbsky State Scientific Center for Social and Forensic Psychiatry".

Says he was declared insane on both articles not pleaded.

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Says he was declared insane on both articles not pleaded.

Oh, sorry, my bad, I'm not very good with terms. =/
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Have they released the report on his evaluation yet? Cause I really wanna know what led them to make this decision.

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Have they released the report on his evaluation yet? Cause I really wanna know what led them to make this decision.

I wouldn't hold my breath. This is Russia, freedom of information isn't really a big thing over there. Moreover the case could be seen as an embarrassment to the authorities, so I expect they probably want to close it without media attention and have the people forget all about nit as fast as possible.

In this light, the "insanity" evaluation might be legitimate, but it is equally likely to be just an "easy answer" aimed at closing the case without undue attention.

That's the problem with Russia - one always has to second-guess official documents and wonder if they have some hidden agenda to misrepresent what happened. Not just in spree killing cases, but in most high profile cases of any kind.

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I wouldn't hold my breath. This is Russia, freedom of information isn't really a big thing over there.

On the other hand, it's easier to get info leaked here if you find the right people, so maybe we'll eventually see the report.
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