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Subject: Re: Shooting in oregon college Break news!!!! Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:54 pm
LPorter101 wrote:
henkdutank wrote:
Local news repeatedly refers to Columbine, claiming ED were bullied, it kind of annoys me
Eric and Dylan were bullied, at least somewhat. It may or may not have driven them to kill, but it did add to their feelings of alienation from the bright shining Abercrombie-wearing jock-sniffing atmosphere at Columbine.
It obviously didn't drive them to murder. They killed the same underclassmen they bullied themselves.
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Subject: Re: Shooting in oregon college Break news!!!! Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:57 pm
Not to mention Dylan went out of his way to bully special needs children.
Sabratha
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Subject: Re: Shooting in oregon college Break news!!!! Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:29 am
Well, you prolly know my opinion: Bullying might have had some impact on them in the sense that it made them think even less about people around them and might have had some role in the fact that they chose to attack the school and not some other similar target (mall etc).
But in the end, I don't think bullying was a major factor. Its not corroborated by their writings. Its not relaly corroborated by their plans - planning to kill everyone in the cafeteria, not just shoot several jocks. "Most deaths in US history".
I think the fact that they made the shooting already after prom, with just a few weeks to go is imho one of the most vivid pieces of evidence that bullying was not on their minds. These were not kids who were aching to get away out of CHS, they were aching to stay and get the shooting in time before HS ends.
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Subject: Re: Shooting in oregon college Break news!!!! Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:36 pm
Juicy Jazzy wrote:
Jesus Christ America, get your shit together. Something has got to change?
legalize escorts / brothels
almost all school shooters are virgins and nerdy give them free poontang and free mental health stuff without any societal reprecussions or whatever that word is that guy the baldo guy also played minecraft lol
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Subject: Re: Shooting in oregon college Break news!!!! Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:13 pm
Yes legalize brothels and have the goverment give financial compensation to girls in college willing to work there. Part time. It will be awesome but god damn christians and ridiculous retarded belief will not allow it.
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Subject: Re: Shooting in oregon college Break news!!!! Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:02 pm
School shootings are becoming standart news in the us . I just want to say that no one , at least so far , have reached the kind of idolation eric and dylan received and will continue to receive , because there is a lot of morbid chicks around , who are fascinated with death . In the past they didnt have a proper definition but today they are called emos . But emos have other properties besides the conotation with death .
ChoSeungHui William Atchison March 18, 1996 - December 7, 2017
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Subject: Re: Shooting in oregon college Break news!!!! Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:48 pm
_________________ I did it for the lulz.
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Subject: Re: Shooting in oregon college Break news!!!! Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:06 pm
ChoSeungHui wrote:
lol , standart us new . I only watched the first 26 seconds of the video .
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Subject: Re: Shooting in oregon college Break news!!!! Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:03 pm
Statement provided to CNN by Umpqua Community College shooting survivor Mathew Downing:
Thursday started out as any other day would’ve. I got to school on time, sat down and pulled out the paper to turn it. It was about 30 or 40 minutes into the class when I heard a couple of shots fired, I couldn’t hear anything when he had walked in because my ears were ringing so badly. When I saw the gun when he walked in the first thought in my head was that this couldn’t be real. The first thing I could hear was him telling everybody to get onto the ground. I listened and figured that if I did so throughout I wouldn’t be harmed. He then told everybody to get into the center of the room and be quiet. He then put his backpack on the front desk and pulled out an envelope and said that there is a flash drive in this and whoever survives this should give it to the police.
He looked directly at me and said, “Hey, kid with the glasses, you are the lucky one. I will not shoot you if you give this to the cops.” I stood up and he pointed the gun at me, and this is the moment I thought I was going to die. He paused for a second and then handed the envelope to me and said to sit in the very back seat and face him. I then did so as he fired a couple of shots into the crowd of students in the center. The shooter then asked one of the other students to stand up, and when he did asked him if he was religious. The student said he was Christian and was shot. He then had another student stand up and asked him the same. When he answered “Catholic,” the shooter then asked if he believed in the afterlife. The student said, “I don’t know,” and the shooter thanked him for standing up for his beliefs and shot him. One of the girls that was lying near the front of the class then said that she was sorry for whatever happened to him and for whatever she had done wrong. The shooter then said that he bets she was and shot her. At that point he was just firing on people who were just lying there and stopped when he heard a woman outside and shot out the window by the door. That is when he looked out the door and saw a man standing outside. The man asked him not to shoot him because it’s his son’s birthday. The shooter then fired multiple shots out of the door and shut it.
When he looked back in, he looked at everybody and said that he was glad there where some people alive. The shooter then asked a student in the back of the class if she would stand up, and she said that her legs wouldn’t move because she was in too much pain. He seemed to have lost interest and pointed his gun to another student in the back and told her to stand up. She got scared and picked up a desk to defend herself and he shot through it anyway and hit her in the leg. At that point the police had shown up and were yelling from outside, which alerted the shooter, and he looked outside then fired some shots. As he was doing this he was reloading his two handguns with ammunition in his backpack. He never left the class, but only leaned about half of his torso out of the classroom to fire on the police. The shooter leaned out of the classroom about two times and was shot by one of the officers, then retreated into the class. When this happened, he laid down on the ground and shot himself in the head.
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Subject: Re: Shooting in oregon college Break news!!!! Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:53 am
sororityalpha wrote:
Statement provided to CNN by Umpqua Community College shooting survivor Mathew Downing:
Thursday started out as any other day would’ve. I got to school on time, sat down and pulled out the paper to turn it. It was about 30 or 40 minutes into the class when I heard a couple of shots fired, I couldn’t hear anything when he had walked in because my ears were ringing so badly. When I saw the gun when he walked in the first thought in my head was that this couldn’t be real. The first thing I could hear was him telling everybody to get onto the ground. I listened and figured that if I did so throughout I wouldn’t be harmed. He then told everybody to get into the center of the room and be quiet. He then put his backpack on the front desk and pulled out an envelope and said that there is a flash drive in this and whoever survives this should give it to the police.
He looked directly at me and said, “Hey, kid with the glasses, you are the lucky one. I will not shoot you if you give this to the cops.” I stood up and he pointed the gun at me, and this is the moment I thought I was going to die. He paused for a second and then handed the envelope to me and said to sit in the very back seat and face him. I then did so as he fired a couple of shots into the crowd of students in the center. The shooter then asked one of the other students to stand up, and when he did asked him if he was religious. The student said he was Christian and was shot. He then had another student stand up and asked him the same. When he answered “Catholic,” the shooter then asked if he believed in the afterlife. The student said, “I don’t know,” and the shooter thanked him for standing up for his beliefs and shot him. One of the girls that was lying near the front of the class then said that she was sorry for whatever happened to him and for whatever she had done wrong. The shooter then said that he bets she was and shot her. At that point he was just firing on people who were just lying there and stopped when he heard a woman outside and shot out the window by the door. That is when he looked out the door and saw a man standing outside. The man asked him not to shoot him because it’s his son’s birthday. The shooter then fired multiple shots out of the door and shut it.
When he looked back in, he looked at everybody and said that he was glad there where some people alive. The shooter then asked a student in the back of the class if she would stand up, and she said that her legs wouldn’t move because she was in too much pain. He seemed to have lost interest and pointed his gun to another student in the back and told her to stand up. She got scared and picked up a desk to defend herself and he shot through it anyway and hit her in the leg. At that point the police had shown up and were yelling from outside, which alerted the shooter, and he looked outside then fired some shots. As he was doing this he was reloading his two handguns with ammunition in his backpack. He never left the class, but only leaned about half of his torso out of the classroom to fire on the police. The shooter leaned out of the classroom about two times and was shot by one of the officers, then retreated into the class. When this happened, he laid down on the ground and shot himself in the head.
thanks for the info.
So its confirmed he shot kids who said they were religious, but its not true that he spared thise who said otherwise or failed to say anything else. For all we know he could have shot at someone even if said person said he's an atheist. Well, there's also proof that the quick arrival of police helped to mitigate the effects of the shooting and lower the bodycount.
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Subject: Re: Shooting in oregon college Break news!!!!