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PostSubject: Murder caught on camera?   Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:07 pm

I read a comment on YouTube that you can see Matt get shot through a library window from one of the TV cameras outside the school. Is this true? And if so where can I see it?
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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:09 pm

There isn't such a video as far as I am aware.

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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:07 pm

There could possible be one out there! I remember when I watched Patrick Ireland try to shimmy himself out of the window, the news helicopter was zooming in pretty close. However was there a news helicopter there that early to catching the library shootings? Hmmm....
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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Tue May 03, 2016 1:10 pm

Honestly, everything was so hectic and blurry it's hard to make much of anything out. When the helicopters neared the windows you can peer in, but there is so much disarray that you can't really see anything.
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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:11 pm

I agree. If there was any footage, it would have to be from the heli since line of sight would be an issue any other way.

Plus, not all of the footage that was taken was ever released. There is a lot of uncensored, haunting stuff that the news didn't want to show. So, it ends up in the archives.
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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:30 pm

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There could possible be one out there! I remember when I watched Patrick Ireland try to shimmy himself out of the window, the news helicopter was zooming in pretty close. However was there a news helicopter there that early to catching the library shootings? Hmmm....
Honestly if that's true then it's pretty f-ed up they let murder happen in pursuit of up-close footage that we weren't going to obviously see anyway.

Nevertheless, never heard of this claim, and I call lies. fairytales, fallacies.

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Plus, not all of the footage that was taken was ever released. There is a lot of uncensored, haunting stuff that the news didn't want to show. So, it ends up in the archives.
Boy to be a fly on the wall amidst the investigation with JeffCo.

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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:19 pm

I meant with the news outlets. The JEFFCO stuff is locked down fro the time being, but the various journalists still have unreleased footage.
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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:20 pm

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I meant with the news outlets. The JEFFCO stuff is locked down fro the time being, but the various journalists still have unreleased footage.
And I'm sure they were instructed to never release it by 'em no?

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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:57 pm

Perhaps, but freedom of the press would have really prevented JEFFCO from having any authority over what was published. I've spoken to one of the RMN photojournalists that was there that day, and he indicated that he had no problems with people looking at or releasing any of his photos.

As far as video goes, it's hard to say. I'm sure somebody caught something on video, given how many cameras were there that day. It would just be a matter of them looking at the old,unused footage and determining what was worthy of releasing.
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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:05 pm

I see. Thank you.
Maybe one small part of non-releasing it is so us and parents can't witness the failed actions of the authorities that day.

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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:59 am

That could be. There was a lot more caution back then when it came to releasing traumatic footage. News crews have been filming suicides, officer involved shootings and fatal car accidents for years. However, if you actually put that unedited footage on the air, it would be career and corporate suicide for anyone involved. Every now and then, that old footage gets released in compilation videos like "Banned in the USA" or stuff like that. It's just a way for them to cash in on stuff that they normally couldn't show.

Given how hectic the scene was that day, I would say that something was on video. Where it is is another story. I was even told there is extensive footage and still photography of the forensic work being done at night, but no one was really interested in buying it or showing it. I was told that all of the film relating to the Columbine shooting is currently stores at the archives section of the Denver Public Library. It's view-able to anyone who wants to go there during regular operating hours.
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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:18 pm

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Given how hectic the scene was that day, I would say that something was on video. Where it is is another story. I was even told there is extensive footage and still photography of the forensic work being done at night, but no one was really interested in buying it or showing it. I was told that all of the film relating to the Columbine shooting is currently stores at the archives section of the Denver Public Library. It's view-able to anyone who wants to go there during regular operating hours.
Hello, count me in! I would wanna see it.

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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:12 am

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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:36 am

I checked out the Denver Public Library catalog and found these documents: goo [dot] gl/jXDeHS
[bear with me, my account is too new to post links, perhaps someone could repost the full link]

Not sure if it's been linked before, I did a search on here and it came up empty, but still possible that someone's found it already or it's all in the 11k (couldn't search that).  Might as well post it anyway though; the documents have certainly been interesting to me so far.

I also found out that anyone can make an account on the Denver Public Library site, provided they give a (fake) Colorado address.  This doesn't really do much, but some of the ebooks require an account.

Anyway, yes, it appears there are numerous Jeffco archives on the Closed Stacks 2 section of a library.  Dunno which library, I would presume the Central branch, but it doesn't say.
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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:16 pm

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long hiatus, just now saw this.

PM me or post some areas/ideas you want me to look into if anyone wants any legal research done in the denver area.. library etc. may take me a bit to get free, but i enjoy research work and would be up for it.

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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:31 pm

Count me in on this hunt.
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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:35 pm


I would love to hear more if anyone finds anything new about Columbine from the Denver Public Library.

Please keep me posted about this...
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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:28 am

Still interested!

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PostSubject: Re: Murder caught on camera?   Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:58 pm

I'm also very interested.
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