Why did E&D make pipe bombs anyway?

It was a waste of resources. No shrapnel was included, they were just fireworks essentially.

I think they thought they were going to be more effective than they were. They also served as extra scare tactics as well being that they were loud.

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they just didn't make good pipebombs. If excellent it'd be pretty fatal and cause serious damages.

They had more confidence than knowledge, it appears. And thankfully so, because there could have been a lot more casualties and some pretty devastating injuries.

I know Eric had that book about bombs and had done some research but I really think he just was lazy. He knew how to take the fireworks apart and they were relatively cheap so I think he just stuck with those. And good thing that he did.

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Maybe I'm wrong but I thought they did use shrapnel. In Eric's list that kept track of the bombs he made (page 26023), he included a column with redacted information that was labeled "shrapnel load." There's also Eric's text document (mentioned on page 10431-2) called "The Book" where he talks about shrapnel.

I think Eric realized that his pipe bombs would probably not be lethal, either before the attack or shortly after they started. If they honestly thought that these bombs were going to kill, I don't think they would have lit them up and tossed them so casually while they remained in the general area. As someone above mentioned, I think they were loud, smoky and intimidating and this is mainly why Eric enjoyed them. I do think he believed his propane bombs would be lethal though.

There was some shrapnel on them but a fair amount of it didn't really work Not as well as it could have anyway

A number of posts in this thread have been edited or deleted.

This is due to the fact that they were bordering on being instructional.

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Referencing portions of Eric's writing that address bombs with page numbers is absolutely fine, but it is preferred that they're not directly quoted.

Please do not discuss what should have been used in place of things that actually were used.

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I did think twice before posting the excerpt but I figured it would be acceptable since it only mentioned the shrapnel aspect of bomb making. Now I know otherwise. Apologies for that.

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I did think twice before posting the excerpt but I figured it would be acceptable since it only mentioned the shrapnel aspect of bomb making. Now I know otherwise.
Apologies for that.

There's no need to apologize, we just wanted to clarify.

You weren't posting about what should have been used in place of the failing components, and the posts that did allude to that are the posts that were deleted.

Yours was just edited.

Thank you very much for your understanding.