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 Could Eric have turned on Dylan for being Jewish?

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PostSubject: Could Eric have turned on Dylan for being Jewish?   Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:41 pm

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The Brown family explained when they saw the tapes, Eric was showing off his arsenal and Dylan said, "My Uncle is going to be very upset." Due to some Jewish holiday. And Eric looked at him with a sinister look, "You're Jewish?" Dylan then started probably lying like saying, "Only a half, no like a fourth." Then it seemed Dylan was like could Eric turn on me? It was very weird and quick they described it.

What do you guys think? Do you guys think Eric pushed it off or was really starting question Dylan and what he was?
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PostSubject: Re: Could Eric have turned on Dylan for being Jewish?   Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:57 pm

I don't think Eric cared. Dylan was his best friend.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Eric have turned on Dylan for being Jewish?   Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:55 pm

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I don't think Eric cared. Dylan was his best friend.

I think he did care at least a little, but decided not to make it a problem because that would mean losing his partner.

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PostSubject: Re: Could Eric have turned on Dylan for being Jewish?   Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:48 am

In my opinion I honestly don't think Eric cared in the least.

Also this is just one of the many reasons why I WANT to see the basement tapes! I want to see this conversation and see what Eric's & Dylan's facial expressions and body language was like.

I want to be able to judge for myself if there was any hostility in Eric, or if Dylan was frightened that he had let it slip.

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PostSubject: Re: Could Eric have turned on Dylan for being Jewish?   Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:54 am

Exactly, we don’t have an unbiased opinion on it.

The sorry could have been in earnest like “you have to do what on Passover, sucks man!” Didn’t he have to recite something?

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PostSubject: Re: Could Eric have turned on Dylan for being Jewish?   Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:05 pm

I think it was probably the fact that Dylan had been ragging on Jewish people - the Hitler stuff, Nazism etc - he probably said a lot of horrible things about every race and religion to Eric and then suddenly said he was one of them (if related somehow), If I was Eric I would probably have looked a bit, like 'why the hell are you trash talking about the Jewish religion and you're part Jewish yourself'

Probably the reason at that point Dylan tried to distance himself from the religion by saying 'yeah, well one fourth' etc. Doesn't anybody else remember posturing when you're a teenager and then being caught out in a lie or a half truth, it's embarrassing!
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PostSubject: Re: Could Eric have turned on Dylan for being Jewish?   Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:18 am

I'm 99% sure they didn't actually believe in Nazi ideologies and were just being edgy teenagers with that Heil Hitler shit, it seems like more of a role-play to me. So I don't think he actually, deeply cared on a personal level.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Eric have turned on Dylan for being Jewish?   Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:50 am

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I'm 99% sure they didn't actually believe in Nazi ideologies and were just being edgy teenagers with that Heil Hitler shit, it seems like more of a role-play to me. So I don't think he actually, deeply cared on a personal level.

I agree.

I think Eric was mainly just impressed that Hitler had the balls to even attempt the crazy things he thought about. I feel that he admired the dedication to the cause more then the actual cause.

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PostSubject: Re: Could Eric have turned on Dylan for being Jewish?   Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:22 pm

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I think Eric was mainly just impressed that Hitler had the balls to even attempt the crazy things he thought about.

Or he was impressed with the amount of people Hitler killed.

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PostSubject: Re: Could Eric have turned on Dylan for being Jewish?   Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:25 pm

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I think Eric was mainly just impressed that Hitler had the balls to even attempt the crazy things he thought about.

Or he was impressed with the amount of people Hitler killed.

Possibly that as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Could Eric have turned on Dylan for being Jewish?   Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:46 am

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I agree.

I think Eric was mainly just impressed that Hitler had the balls to even attempt the crazy things he thought about. I feel that he admired the dedication to the cause more then the actual cause.  

Perhaps he admired him for his worldwide notoriety, on top of that Eric's top priority was edginess.
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PostSubject: Re: Could Eric have turned on Dylan for being Jewish?   Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:47 am

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I agree.

I think Eric was mainly just impressed that Hitler had the balls to even attempt the crazy things he thought about. I feel that he admired the dedication to the cause more then the actual cause.  

Perhaps he admired him for his worldwide notoriety, on top of that Eric's top priority was edginess.

That is very likely, also the fact that Hitler had tricked/brainwashed/forced so many people into following him.

Eric wanted to be in charge of something. I think he felt his own life was being commanded by others, his parents, society, etc.  So anything depicting the type of ABSOLUTE control that he wanted would have appealed to him.

I also think this is why Eric threw himself so fully into NBK. Dylan may have came up with the original idea, but it's clear Eric did most everything with the planning. He probably felt like he was in control of something for once.

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PostSubject: Re: Could Eric have turned on Dylan for being Jewish?   Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:07 am

Hitler's vision was also based on having a society where everyone was a perfect physical and mental specimen of Aryan fitness.
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This is probably where Eric's rants about getting rid of the stupid, fat, retarded, crippled and otherwise "unfit to live" people comes from, along with his "take off all the warning labels" idea. I don't think that it was racial in Eric's mind but I think he respected the Nazi eugenics program which was also about cleansing the German Aryan gene pool of "defects" other than than being Jewish.
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