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Mj2beat
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| Subject: Carmen de Patagones School Shooting Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:16 am | |
| Recently, I discovered a case from Argentina, about the first school shooting in Latinamerica. It was in the year 2004 and three died. Name's perpetrator is Rafael "Junior" Solich and was 15 at that time. I didnt find many information in english or spanish except this: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]and this: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]and this documentary in spanish that explain the case [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Basically, Rafael commited the shooting after suffered abuse in the school and home. He did it with his father's gun, since in Carmen de Patagones, every house has one. Rafael's best friend: Dante, was a suspect and targeted like the "intelectual perpetrator" but nothing was ever proved, even though he couldn't get back to the school and had to leave the town. Because both were always apart from everyone in the school, got dressed in black and listened to metal music. In the end, Rafael was not convicted for Argentina's laws cause' they say that any under-age person cant be condemned for any crime. He instead was send to a psychiatric hospital and went out a few years ago. This, was never accepted for the victims's parents and they claimed that the authorities protected and defended more Rafael than his victims. No very surprising with the awful laws from Latinamerica. The last was a scandal in Argentina that year and the people called the shooting: "Second Columbine". And now like the first school shooting in South America. _________________ The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent; but if we can come to terms with this indifference and accept the challenges of life within the boundaries of death — however mutable man may be able to make them — our existence as a species can have genuine meaning and fulfillment. However vast the darkness, we must supply our own light
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| | | Wideawake
Posts : 320 Contribution Points : 101801 Forum Reputation : 0 Join date : 2013-03-20 Location : US
| Subject: Re: Carmen de Patagones School Shooting Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:59 pm | |
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| | | InsaneIntruder
Posts : 2232 Contribution Points : 85828 Forum Reputation : 340 Join date : 2016-06-28 Location : my room
| Subject: Re: Carmen de Patagones School Shooting Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:14 pm | |
| In the picture OP posted, it says a student called Dante disarmed Rafael. Could this be Rafael's best friend Dante or was this a different Dante? I don't know how common the name Dante is in Argentina, so I'm not sure. | |
| | | STK
Posts : 981 Contribution Points : 72969 Forum Reputation : 330 Join date : 2017-02-10 Location : Somewhere Hot and Dry
| Subject: Re: Carmen de Patagones School Shooting Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:36 pm | |
| I believe there was a Latin American school shooting in 2003 that resulted in 1 death and 8 injuries. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]There is an insanely low amount of information avalible on this case however; the most information I've been able to find has been a brief mention in this Indian news article (TEENAGER SHOOTS AT 8 IN SCHOOL ): [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]and some brief mentions in these various homicide-related books: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] _________________ "If opportunities for role fulfilment fall far short of the demand by those capable of filling roles, and having expectations to do so, only violence and disruption of social organization can follow. Individuals born under these circumstances will be so out of touch with reality as to be incapable even of alienation. Their most complex behaviors will become fragmented. Acquisition, creation and utilization of ideas appropriate for life in a post-industrial cultural-conceptual-technological society will have been blocked." - John B. Calhoun
"If I died thirsty, it wouldn't matter for me if it rains ever again" - Abu Firas al-Hamdani
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| | | sscc
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| Subject: Re: Carmen de Patagones School Shooting Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:19 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] If you have an Adam Lanza style spreadsheet of mass shootings, I hope that you're eventually planning to share it with us. | |
| | | STK
Posts : 981 Contribution Points : 72969 Forum Reputation : 330 Join date : 2017-02-10 Location : Somewhere Hot and Dry
| Subject: Re: Carmen de Patagones School Shooting Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:11 pm | |
| - sscc wrote:
- [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] If you have an Adam Lanza style spreadsheet of mass shootings, I hope that you're eventually planning to share it with us.
I appreciate the compliment, altough I must admit I don't. Finding out about obscure school shootings has been made infinity more easier with the aid of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] which is where I found out about Edmar. _________________ "If opportunities for role fulfilment fall far short of the demand by those capable of filling roles, and having expectations to do so, only violence and disruption of social organization can follow. Individuals born under these circumstances will be so out of touch with reality as to be incapable even of alienation. Their most complex behaviors will become fragmented. Acquisition, creation and utilization of ideas appropriate for life in a post-industrial cultural-conceptual-technological society will have been blocked." - John B. Calhoun
"If I died thirsty, it wouldn't matter for me if it rains ever again" - Abu Firas al-Hamdani
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| Subject: Re: Carmen de Patagones School Shooting Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:06 am | |
| Answering to InsaneIntruder, yes, was his friend Dante Pena the one who stopped him. According to one witness, after Solich shoot all the bullets in the first magazine, he walked away from the classroom without saying a word. Then Dante got up from his desk, looked at his classmates on the ground, and calmly walked to where Solich was, and hold him from the back. Then Solich fall in to his own knees, drops the gun and starts crying at loud. According to the newspapers, Solich said “Today it’s going to be a great day” before getting into the classroom. The shooting lasted for 8 to 10 seconds, and 13 shots were fired, with 3 dead and 5 injured. You can see a recreation of the shooting in this video: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (It’s in Spanish) It’s worth mentioning that Dante was suspected of be the plotter of the attack, but noting was proved. When the kids got back to school, Dante continued assisting for some time, with the same classmates… but later he and all his family moved out from the town. The day before the shooting Dante supposedly said to Sandra, one of the girls that died: "Tomorrow don't go to school" |
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