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bradt93
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| Subject: Did their friends grieve for them? Sun May 05, 2019 11:15 pm | |
| I know Devon said at the time she thought she saw a black BMW just like Dylans, but do you think any of their other friends grieved in certain ways? _________________ bt
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true_crime
Posts : 285 Contribution Points : 58824 Forum Reputation : 296 Join date : 2019-01-11 Location : Mountains & Molehills
| Subject: Re: Did their friends grieve for them? Sun May 05, 2019 11:39 pm | |
| I’m sure they did. I would imagine Nate Dykeman and even Zack Heckler did, perhaps Chris Morris a bit. What an odd predicament they would each have been in. Imagine trying to mourn for the loss of your friends from suicide, then having to wrestle with the reality of what they did during the last moments of their lives. On top of all that, having your town be put under a microscope and feeling like your every move is watched. | |
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LadyStardust
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| Subject: Re: Did their friends grieve for them? Mon May 06, 2019 8:10 am | |
| In video interviews after 4/20, Nate is clearly distraught. He cannot control his tears. He also left a yearbook message to Eric and Dylan thanking them for thier everlasting friendship. Also in video interviews, Brooks is extremely distraught as he speaks about them. Susan wrote a very touching essay about Eric in the Voices of Columbine book. Devon speaks of her grief for Dylan. Erik Veik also appears distraught about losing two friends.
It would be hard to separate one's feelings of grief for from the anger in those easly days. Surely Zach, and Chris Morris, who both voiced anger and resentment, also felt some grief for the loss of thier friends. | |
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: Did their friends grieve for them? Mon May 06, 2019 8:47 am | |
| I think Zach’s anger came from a lot of hurt. _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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LadyStardust
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| Subject: Re: Did their friends grieve for them? Mon May 06, 2019 9:38 am | |
| I read somewhere that Alyssa kept in touch with the Harrises, but I can’t remember where I read it, and have no idea if it’s true or not. | |
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: Did their friends grieve for them? Mon May 06, 2019 11:04 am | |
| - LadyStardust wrote:
- I read somewhere that Alyssa kept in touch with the Harrises, but I can’t remember where I read it, and have no idea if it’s true or not.
I read that here, but nothing to back it up. Nate and I think Zach still keep in touch with the Klebolds. _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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UncontinuedProcess
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| Subject: Re: Did their friends grieve for them? Mon May 06, 2019 12:52 pm | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- LadyStardust wrote:
- I read somewhere that Alyssa kept in touch with the Harrises, but I can’t remember where I read it, and have no idea if it’s true or not.
I read that here, but nothing to back it up.
Nate and I think Zach still keep in touch with the Klebolds.
Yeah Sue mentioned in her book that she's still in good contact with Nate and Zach. | |
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true_crime
Posts : 285 Contribution Points : 58824 Forum Reputation : 296 Join date : 2019-01-11 Location : Mountains & Molehills
| Subject: Re: Did their friends grieve for them? Mon May 06, 2019 11:51 pm | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- I think Zach’s anger came from a lot of hurt.
Spot on Screamingophelia! | |
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true_crime
Posts : 285 Contribution Points : 58824 Forum Reputation : 296 Join date : 2019-01-11 Location : Mountains & Molehills
| Subject: Re: Did their friends grieve for them? Mon May 06, 2019 11:54 pm | |
| Great story that I happened to stumble upon just now while Googling something totally different. It talks about the loss of friends. It was written by Alan Prendergast so of course it’s going to be awesome. Ironically I just happened upon it and it was written a few days before the 10 year anniversary. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] | |
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bradt93
Posts : 721 Contribution Points : 91306 Forum Reputation : 255 Join date : 2016-12-21 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Did their friends grieve for them? Tue May 07, 2019 1:15 am | |
| - LadyStardust wrote:
- In video interviews after 4/20, Nate is clearly distraught. He cannot control his tears. He also left a yearbook message to Eric and Dylan thanking them for thier everlasting friendship. Also in video interviews, Brooks is extremely distraught as he speaks about them. Susan wrote a very touching essay about Eric in the Voices of Columbine book. Devon speaks of her grief for Dylan. Erik Veik also appears distraught about losing two friends.
It would be hard to separate one's feelings of grief for from the anger in those easly days. Surely Zach, and Chris Morris, who both voiced anger and resentment, also felt some grief for the loss of thier friends. It's ashame Eric didn't realize Susan may of been the one for him instead of Brandy snob. _________________ bt
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| Subject: Re: Did their friends grieve for them? Tue May 07, 2019 3:14 pm | |
| Of course their friends grieved for them. They probably felt ashamed for the fact they were grieving over murderers and mostly grieved in private. It probably took a while to come to terms with the fact that it is okay to grieve over Eric and Dylan. I'm sure it did make them angry and hurt. I wouldn't know how to feel at that age if my friends killed some of my other friends and classmates. |
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thelmar
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| Subject: Re: Did their friends grieve for them? Tue May 07, 2019 9:39 pm | |
| - hvernon wrote:
- Of course their friends grieved for them. They probably felt ashamed for the fact they were grieving over murderers and mostly grieved in private. It probably took a while to come to terms with the fact that it is okay to grieve over Eric and Dylan. I'm sure it did make them angry and hurt. I wouldn't know how to feel at that age if my friends killed some of my other friends and classmates.
^This I'd imagine there were few people that they could talk to about their feelings because people who didn't know Eric and Dylan would only be looking at them through the lens of what they'd done. Their friends were probably made to feel bad or that they were wrong to care that Eric and Dylan were dead. I doubt they had much support and probably faced a lot of backlash, which would have compounded their grief. I also agree with [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that Zach's anger was rooted in grief. I'd imagine, if I were in his shoes, I might also question myself like what did I miss? what could I have done? Zach sounds like an ass when he talks about Dylan in his police statement but I don't doubt that he did care for him and I'd hope that in time he was able to reconcile his feelings for the Dylan that he knew. | |
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: Did their friends grieve for them? Tue May 07, 2019 10:05 pm | |
| - thelmar wrote:
- hvernon wrote:
- Of course their friends grieved for them. They probably felt ashamed for the fact they were grieving over murderers and mostly grieved in private. It probably took a while to come to terms with the fact that it is okay to grieve over Eric and Dylan. I'm sure it did make them angry and hurt. I wouldn't know how to feel at that age if my friends killed some of my other friends and classmates.
^This I'd imagine there were few people that they could talk to about their feelings because people who didn't know Eric and Dylan would only be looking at them through the lens of what they'd done. Their friends were probably made to feel bad or that they were wrong to care that Eric and Dylan were dead. I doubt they had much support and probably faced a lot of backlash, which would have compounded their grief. I also agree with [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that Zach's anger was rooted in grief. I'd imagine, if I were in his shoes, I might also question myself like what did I miss? what could I have done? Zach sounds like an ass when he talks about Dylan in his police statement but I don't doubt that he did care for him and I'd hope that in time he was able to reconcile his feelings for the Dylan that he knew. Something I wonder about and of course we will never know, but Dylan and Zach were really close, but I know towards the end even Sue said Dylan was closer to Nate BUT I feel like Zach was Dylan's first really true best friend and even Devon won him over. So I wonder if Zach felt resentment after when it came to Eric. If you think about it, that is pretty heady shit thinking of your friend going on pretty much a murder suicide mission with someone. _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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LadyStardust
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| Subject: Re: Did their friends grieve for them? Wed May 08, 2019 12:54 pm | |
| Zach and Eric had to be somewhat friends, though. They did rebel missions together, and he even had a nickname, kiBBz. (How is that pronounced, btw?) | |
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thelmar
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| Subject: Re: Did their friends grieve for them? Wed May 08, 2019 9:26 pm | |
| - LadyStardust wrote:
- Zach and Eric had to be somewhat friends, though. They did rebel missions together, and he even had a nickname, kiBBz. (How is that pronounced, btw?)
It's short for Kibble, I believe in reference to Zach always snacking on stuff. | |
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