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Subject: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:07 am
I know he was diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome (which doesn’t exist in the DSM anymore), but how accurate do you think his diagnosis was? I think it’s possible for someone with Autism to develop Schizophrenia later in life, but do you think he was misdiagnosed. Apparently his father thought that the autism diagnosis could hide schizophrenia.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:24 pm
I believe any schizophrenia he had was co-morbid with his autism.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:41 pm
Yep, he might of as well had both schizophrenia AND autism.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:57 pm
I recall reading a list of things that made him angry. He seemed like he had sensory issues because all the things were pretty mundane. I know sensory issues are common with autism. We know he didn't like light coming into his room because he taped up all the windows. I would say he certainly did have autism, but that's just my armchair diagnosis. It can coexist with the schizophrenia.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:44 pm
To answer this thread's title - I don't just think he was autistic... I think he was really autistic.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:19 pm
No doubt.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:59 pm
Absolutely. I have Asperger's syndrome and Lanza had many of the same symptoms as I do.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:00 pm
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:58 am
Everyone Can Be Autistic, If You Believe Hard Enough.
Just As Tumblr Taught Us.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:16 pm
MysterionSZAF wrote:
Everyone Can Be Autistic, If You Believe Hard Enough.
Just As Tumblr Taught Us.
Why did you start every word with a capital letter? That is quite irritating.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:20 am
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:33 pm
KMFDM wrote:
MysterionSZAF wrote:
Everyone Can Be Autistic, If You Believe Hard Enough.
Just As Tumblr Taught Us.
Why did you start every word with a capital letter? That is quite irritating.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:11 pm
MAB1996 wrote:
I know he was diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome (which doesn’t exist in the DSM anymore), but how accurate do you think his diagnosis was? I think it’s possible for someone with Autism to develop Schizophrenia later in life, but do you think he was misdiagnosed. Apparently his father thought that the autism diagnosis could hide schizophrenia.
I believe, sincerely, that Lanza was genuinely autistic. His mother had a low and primitive forehead (Arab norm, 125 IQ), but his father's forehead was at the white norm (140-150 IQ). You can tell from Lanza's pupil dilation and his vocabulary that he was smarter than 125 IQ, which he inherited from his mother. His dad was smarter than his mom like Adolf Hitler.
I think Adam Lanza was 135-140 IQ with 125 IQ prenatal testosterone levels. Not very autistic at all, but enough to have serious, life ruining issues. Had he lived to 40 years old, he could have been married and had a decent life, albeit with issues. If Lanza were more (smarter) or less autistic (dumber), Sandy Hook never would have happened. He would of found a way out of all of his problems in life. He was definitely capable enough to have been something other than a mass shooter.
Definitely not schizophrenic at all, pure autism.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:02 pm
Yes.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:29 pm
yes
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:39 pm
Is the sky blue?
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:53 am
I wonder why people keep doubting his diagnosis?
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:22 pm
First of all, whoever diagnosed him could be wrong. We have no idea on how the diagnose was assessed. Sometimes the causes and consequences are seen reversed by professional psychiatrists.
Imagine that you are blind. If you are blind you are unable to see the people's faces. Now close your eyes. With your eyes closed you have made the concious decision to not look at the people's faces. Now going back to him, was he actively avoiding looking at the people's faces or he just couldn't look at them? Children do not have enough vocabulary to express themselves in the same way an adult would. If that is combined with delays in developing speech, writing, reading, that's a huge barrier for a teacher to properly understand his/her own student. Let alone a psychiatrist or the parent themselves.
Have you ever heard of Natascha Kampusch? She was abducted and held hostage for many years. While she was held in a cellar she was forced to develop strategies of survival. One of them was reading. She had developed her reading and comprehension skills under an evironment where she didn't have much of a choice. Now think about a kid who refuses to read. Is that kid actively refusing to read because they have associated reading with pain, horror, something bad in their minds or are they just avoiding reading because they have something that prevents them from focusing on reading?
Have you ever heard about Prosopagnosia? There is woman who is an artist and has it. It's a genetic disorder that prevents the brain from recognizing faces, even their own. That rare condition has an interesting fact though, it doesn't prevent a person from recognizing facial expressions. If you are unable to recognize faces you are forced to recognize people from eveything else that your brain is able to gather, such as clothes, hairstyle, body movements, so on. Now if the person is blind the arey also unable to see the faces and are faced with similar challenges in their life.
Let's take a look at hallucinations. Very often when people hear about hallucinations they immediately think about schizophrenia. Hallucinations are present in many conditions, one of which is schizophrenia. One very common form of hallucination is beliving that you are being persecuted. But if you think about borderline, those people may very well perceive fear such that they belive that people are going to abandon them. Or think about narcissists, they may belive that everyone around them want to backstab them because they perceive everyone as competitors.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:09 pm
I do believe he had it, but by the end of his life, his inability to integrate into society was more a result of the habits and other mental illnesses that developed in the time since (in other words, yes, but by 2012, autism was the least of his problems.)
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:37 pm
Whysomangry wrote:
I believe, sincerely, that Lanza was genuinely autistic. His mother had a low and primitive forehead (Arab norm, 125 IQ), but his father's forehead was at the white norm (140-150 IQ). You can tell from Lanza's pupil dilation and his vocabulary that he was smarter than 125 IQ, which he inherited from his mother. His dad was smarter than his mom like Adolf Hitler.
I think Adam Lanza was 135-140 IQ with 125 IQ prenatal testosterone levels. Not very autistic at all, but enough to have serious, life ruining issues. Had he lived to 40 years old, he could have been married and had a decent life, albeit with issues. If Lanza were more (smarter) or less autistic (dumber), Sandy Hook never would have happened. He would of found a way out of all of his problems in life. He was definitely capable enough to have been something other than a mass shooter.
Definitely not schizophrenic at all, pure autism.
What an... interesting post.
I’m curious to know if it’s pure autism or pure schizophrenia or just pure trolling.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:40 pm
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Whysomangry wrote:
I believe, sincerely, that Lanza was genuinely autistic. His mother had a low and primitive forehead (Arab norm, 125 IQ), but his father's forehead was at the white norm (140-150 IQ). You can tell from Lanza's pupil dilation and his vocabulary that he was smarter than 125 IQ, which he inherited from his mother. His dad was smarter than his mom like Adolf Hitler.
I think Adam Lanza was 135-140 IQ with 125 IQ prenatal testosterone levels. Not very autistic at all, but enough to have serious, life ruining issues. Had he lived to 40 years old, he could have been married and had a decent life, albeit with issues. If Lanza were more (smarter) or less autistic (dumber), Sandy Hook never would have happened. He would of found a way out of all of his problems in life. He was definitely capable enough to have been something other than a mass shooter.
Definitely not schizophrenic at all, pure autism.
What an... interesting post.
I’m curious to know if it’s pure autism or pure schizophrenia or just pure trolling.
The part about pupil dilation is truly insane.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:10 am
I’ve done a lot of research on autism and knowing people who had the same diagnosis he had,I can confidently say that he did,though I think there were other disorders/conditions in play in his case,if that wasn’t already obvious.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:16 pm
Asperger's Syndrome
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Sat May 28, 2022 7:23 am
Yes, I very much so do believe that he was autistic, and I think it impaired his ability to socialize, sadly (in addition to anxiety/social anxiety, naturally).
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Sat May 28, 2022 2:15 pm
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:26 pm
MAB1996 wrote:
I know he was diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome (which doesn’t exist in the DSM anymore), but how accurate do you think his diagnosis was? I think it’s possible for someone with Autism to develop Schizophrenia later in life, but do you think he was misdiagnosed. Apparently his father thought that the autism diagnosis could hide schizophrenia.
From what he did and what his mother said in her emails and letters he did sound like he had autism
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:55 pm
CanIHelpYou wrote:
From what he did and what his mother said in her emails and letters he did sound like he had autism
Adam was certainly autistic and had sensory issues, but many speculate it wasn't actually as bad as his mother claimed. There was this one book that came out called "The Trial of Adam Lanza" by Dan Howitt. I haven't read it, but someone broke it down in another thread. It's a long ass book, and it was written by a Harvard academic, but it basically posits that his mother really didn't help Adam's situation because she had munchausen and munchausen by proxy. It made some good points. Like, according to her, Adam hated it when someone rang the doorbell (due to his autism and sensory disorders) yet he was perfectly fine with going out an public, and playing DDR, which has loud noises and bright flashing lights lmao. He was slightly autistic, but that was honestly the least of his issues. Him being sheltered by is mom prevented him from ever going through many of the formative experiences a normal person has. That can fuck someone up bad.[/quote]
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:28 am
transcendentalauracel331 wrote:
CanIHelpYou wrote:
From what he did and what his mother said in her emails and letters he did sound like he had autism
Adam was certainly autistic and had sensory issues, but many speculate it wasn't actually as bad as his mother claimed. There was this one book that came out called "The Trial of Adam Lanza" by Dan Howitt. I haven't read it, but someone broke it down in another thread. It's a long ass book, and it was written by a Harvard academic, but it basically posits that his mother really didn't help Adam's situation because she had munchausen and munchausen by proxy. It made some good points. Like, according to her, Adam hated it when someone rang the doorbell (due to his autism and sensory disorders) yet he was perfectly fine with going out an public, and playing DDR, which has loud noises and bright flashing lights lmao. He was slightly autistic, but that was honestly the least of his issues. Him being sheltered by is mom prevented him from ever going through many of the formative experiences a normal person has. That can fuck someone up bad.
Yep, I don't like blaming people in situations I haven't been in, but his mom refusing therapy and constantly letting Adam switch schools definitely didn't help. Maybe this contributed to his view of saving the kids from a lifetime of suffering. Who knows..
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:07 am
Yes.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:04 pm
At this point I think its pretty obvious
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:03 pm
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Is the sky blue?
No, it's dark clouds.....
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:07 pm
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noobjeff19 wrote:
Is the sky blue?
No, it's dark clouds.....
That means the clouds are dark not the sky stop commenting the dumbest possible shit or at least try omfg you're too stupid to be contrarian.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:20 am
mega autistic
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:59 am
Well he was diagnosed by a medical professional so I guess so as someone who didn’t know him.
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Subject: Re: Do you think Adam Lanza was really autistic? Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:02 am
If I could, I would edit a picture of that Captain Crunch cereal and edit it to say "Oops! All autism," but unfortunately I'm lazy. I definitely think he was autistic. As an (and please think I'm really cool and unique for this, I've got nothing else going for me) autistic gal myself I definitely see it, as I notice many similarities between him and myself. For whether or not he was schizophrenic...well, no idea. I don't know the guy personally nor am I a psychologist, and I'm assuming most people on here aren't, either. Is it possible? Yeah, but a lot of things are possible. Maybe he was just a bit extra goofy due to brain damage from his anorexia. Maybe he was an absolute nut job schizo. Maybe Adam isn't even real and YOU'RE the schizophrenic! Take your pills. Freak.
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