- Real-Life wrote:
- I'm not talking about raising awareness of the mass. I'm talking about making people aware that they may develop this desire that humanity is much more than what they say and has nothing to do with common conceptions. we must first of all separate humanity from social beings, understand society, understand hierarchy, exploitation, etc. there is no need to do this. the real horror is reality itself and monsters are all of us that exist. Natural selection? this is all natural selection. now you want to go against it?
That's a lot of vague statements. You could start with something like Dario Nardi's
Neuroscience of Personality and
The Magic Diamond to get somewhat basic understanding of human nature and how people are specialised to perform variety of roles and have various special skills.
- Real-Life wrote:
- imagine if all school shooters instead of spending money preparing their attacks, developed their tribes and lived their way as many do today in alternative communities of all kinds? I'm not here to play the pacifist. I'm here to be realistic. All revolutions are unnecessary and all debates are useless. stay among yours and develop.
Like instead instead of spending up to 1000$ on gear XD ? They'd "develop their tribes" and "develop alternate way of life" at the same monetary cost XD ? AHAHAHAHA XD That's, like, pure magical thinking XD .
- Real-Life wrote:
- Have you been bullied? go over it and grow, because in life suffering is learning. if you succumb to this, you are being exactly what you criticize in others: a loser.
It doesn't really work that way. Dylan and Eric got a kill:ratio of 2:13. Which is a massive win. It's probably more like 0:13 since they desired to die so their deaths aren't on the loss side.
Also, they have spent, like 1000$ to cancel all the money spent on raising all the victims, incurred massive healthcare and legal costs and probably costed a lot of lost tax revue. From what I understand Columbine has cost government, like tens or hundreds of millions of dollars. Article from 1999 cites 50 million $.
Columbine shooting was a massive victory for Dylan and Eric even without their plan working and without them adapting to its failure.
I think this idea is ultimately pointless since vast majority of people who could have power impulse to do something like shooting up a school won't do it simply because they aren't suicidal, so ultimately it's like preaching to a choir. Rampage shootings are extremely rare per capita specifically because they require the perp to be ridiculously suicidal while at the same time having strong enough power impulse to inflict massive losses on the enemy hordes on the way out. There must be some kind of fundamental contradiction involved that makes such situation exceptional.
Like ultimately your argument boils down to "I'm not suicidal and I want to do something with my life therefore mass shootings are unnecessary." which doesn't really work for people for whom death is a feature not a bug.
The truth is that the reason why public rampage shootings are so extremely rare per capita is that murder being highly illegal is an extremely effective deterrent.
Subject: There is only one weapon against school shootings: Awareness. 
Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:57 pm
