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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:15 pm
Yep, he had a list of shooters in his car and a note where he described he was a loner and a reject. Also, media outlets and people on Twitter have been posting the Facebook of a person who is NOT the shooter. So beware of false info.
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:47 pm
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:47 am
Engel wrote:
his journal writings
I wonder how much he researched the shooters on that list and if he had an obsession with prior mass shooters like William Atchison and Jonathan Sapirman. His hatred of psychiatrists and denial of mental illness reminds me of Adam Lanza. The fact that he specifically wanted to purchase a Hellfire trigger makes me think he was likely inspired by Salvador Ramos. The phrases "day of my retribution" and "next mass shooter of 2022" also show probable influence from Elliot Rodger and Nikolas Cruz. There's also some shooters who were left out of his "deadliest American shooters" list (Nidal Hassan, Jiverly Wong, Aaron Alexis, Ahmad Alissa).
I'm also curious as to why he hated Central VPA so much even a year after graduation and considered his time there the worst four years of his life. He doesn't really talk about what he experienced there (aside from him not having a social life and people joking about him being a school shooter) but maybe there are unreleased pages where he does. In October 2017, the time he claimed he first wanted to shoot up CVPA, he was presumably a freshman and had only attended the school for 1-2 months.
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:22 am
Ricochet wrote:
Engel wrote:
his journal writings
I wonder how much he researched the shooters on that list and if he had an obsession with prior mass shooters like William Atchison and Jonathan Sapirman. His hatred of psychiatrists and denial of mental illness reminds me of Adam Lanza. The fact that he specifically wanted to purchase a Hellfire trigger makes me think he was likely inspired by Salvador Ramos. The phrases "day of my retribution" and "next mass shooter of 2022" also show probable influence from Elliot Rodger and Nikolas Cruz. There's also some shooters who were left out of his "deadliest American shooters" list (Nidal Hassan, Jiverly Wong, Aaron Alexis, Ahmad Alissa).
I'm also curious as to why he hated Central VPA so much even a year after graduation and considered his time there the worst four years of his life. He doesn't really talk about what he experienced there (aside from him not having a social life and people joking about him being a school shooter) but maybe there are unreleased pages where he does. In October 2017, the time he claimed he first wanted to shoot up CVPA, he was presumably a freshman and had only attended the school for 1-2 months.
I assume he hated CVPA for the bullying he recieved there
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:31 am
Engel wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Engel wrote:
his journal writings
I wonder how much he researched the shooters on that list and if he had an obsession with prior mass shooters like William Atchison and Jonathan Sapirman. His hatred of psychiatrists and denial of mental illness reminds me of Adam Lanza. The fact that he specifically wanted to purchase a Hellfire trigger makes me think he was likely inspired by Salvador Ramos. The phrases "day of my retribution" and "next mass shooter of 2022" also show probable influence from Elliot Rodger and Nikolas Cruz. There's also some shooters who were left out of his "deadliest American shooters" list (Nidal Hassan, Jiverly Wong, Aaron Alexis, Ahmad Alissa).
I'm also curious as to why he hated Central VPA so much even a year after graduation and considered his time there the worst four years of his life. He doesn't really talk about what he experienced there (aside from him not having a social life and people joking about him being a school shooter) but maybe there are unreleased pages where he does. In October 2017, the time he claimed he first wanted to shoot up CVPA, he was presumably a freshman and had only attended the school for 1-2 months.
I assume he hated CVPA for the bullying he recieved there
Kinda weird, usually black kids are victims in school shootings
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:33 am
His police visit to his home for a crisis call a week before the shooting:
This one is the full bodycam footage of the visit (its an hour long):
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:38 am
Drum$tick wrote:
Engel wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Engel wrote:
his journal writings
I wonder how much he researched the shooters on that list and if he had an obsession with prior mass shooters like William Atchison and Jonathan Sapirman. His hatred of psychiatrists and denial of mental illness reminds me of Adam Lanza. The fact that he specifically wanted to purchase a Hellfire trigger makes me think he was likely inspired by Salvador Ramos. The phrases "day of my retribution" and "next mass shooter of 2022" also show probable influence from Elliot Rodger and Nikolas Cruz. There's also some shooters who were left out of his "deadliest American shooters" list (Nidal Hassan, Jiverly Wong, Aaron Alexis, Ahmad Alissa).
I'm also curious as to why he hated Central VPA so much even a year after graduation and considered his time there the worst four years of his life. He doesn't really talk about what he experienced there (aside from him not having a social life and people joking about him being a school shooter) but maybe there are unreleased pages where he does. In October 2017, the time he claimed he first wanted to shoot up CVPA, he was presumably a freshman and had only attended the school for 1-2 months.
I assume he hated CVPA for the bullying he recieved there
Kinda weird, usually black kids are victims in school shootings
This also took place at a majority black school, some white kids attend it too
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"Humanity is overrated, isn't it?" - Matti Saari
"Live in virtue, no desire And in the grave an angel's choir You look to heaven and wonder why No one can see them in the sky
Just as the clouds have gone to sleep Angels can be seen in heaven's keep Alone in fear, they question why Goddamn, not an angel when I die" - Engel, Rammstein (English version)
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:38 pm
I wonder why Harris specifically chose October 24th as the date of the attack. The only reason I can think of is because that date marked 5 months since the Uvalde shooting.
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:48 pm
The investigation is closed. They are going to release some stuff on Monday in a press conference
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"Live in virtue, no desire And in the grave an angel's choir You look to heaven and wonder why No one can see them in the sky
Just as the clouds have gone to sleep Angels can be seen in heaven's keep Alone in fear, they question why Goddamn, not an angel when I die" - Engel, Rammstein (English version)
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Sat Jul 27, 2024 6:27 am
Engel wrote:
The investigation is closed. They are going to release some stuff on Monday in a press conference
Hope they release bodycam footage and/or CCTV
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:19 pm
Akrn1337 wrote:
Engel wrote:
The investigation is closed. They are going to release some stuff on Monday in a press conference
Hope they release bodycam footage and/or CCTV
They are releasing them on Wed. They are also going to release the investigative report in a couple of weeks after they are done redacting it
_________________ "I'll never understand humans. The way they live their lives, their feelings, the things they want to do in life, probably has something to do with these invisible gods they pray to. Meh" - Kimveer Gill
"Humanity is overrated, isn't it?" - Matti Saari
"Live in virtue, no desire And in the grave an angel's choir You look to heaven and wonder why No one can see them in the sky
Just as the clouds have gone to sleep Angels can be seen in heaven's keep Alone in fear, they question why Goddamn, not an angel when I die" - Engel, Rammstein (English version)
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:05 am
The bodycam and cctv have been released today:
Here's the bodycam:
The cctv I can't find the full 9 minutes on YouTube because I guess it hasn't been uploaded, but you can find it on r/masskillers.
_________________ "I'll never understand humans. The way they live their lives, their feelings, the things they want to do in life, probably has something to do with these invisible gods they pray to. Meh" - Kimveer Gill
"Humanity is overrated, isn't it?" - Matti Saari
"Live in virtue, no desire And in the grave an angel's choir You look to heaven and wonder why No one can see them in the sky
Just as the clouds have gone to sleep Angels can be seen in heaven's keep Alone in fear, they question why Goddamn, not an angel when I die" - Engel, Rammstein (English version)
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:13 am
Engel wrote:
The bodycam and cctv have been released today:
Here's the bodycam:
The cctv I can't find the full 9 minutes on YouTube because I guess it hasn't been uploaded, but you can find it on r/masskillers.
I knew you would lose your shit over this being released hahaha
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Wed Jul 31, 2024 2:48 pm
The CCTV:
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"Live in virtue, no desire And in the grave an angel's choir You look to heaven and wonder why No one can see them in the sky
Just as the clouds have gone to sleep Angels can be seen in heaven's keep Alone in fear, they question why Goddamn, not an angel when I die" - Engel, Rammstein (English version)
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:46 pm
they should have given him reparation's for slavery!
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:52 am
Jason wrote:
I wonder why Harris specifically chose October 24th as the date of the attack. The only reason I can think of is because that date marked 5 months since the Uvalde shooting.
ngl this does seem possible, not to correlate or nothin but izhevsk shooting happened on the 5th month anniversary of veshkayma shooting. this happened on 5th anniversary of uvalde. coincidence i don't think so
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Mon Aug 05, 2024 2:37 am
Oh shit im tinker head wrong thread
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Subject: Re: At a St Louis high school Thu Sep 05, 2024 3:56 pm
The man Orlando bought his PA-15 from was suspected of being involved in arms trafficking
_________________ "I'll never understand humans. The way they live their lives, their feelings, the things they want to do in life, probably has something to do with these invisible gods they pray to. Meh" - Kimveer Gill
"Humanity is overrated, isn't it?" - Matti Saari
"Live in virtue, no desire And in the grave an angel's choir You look to heaven and wonder why No one can see them in the sky
Just as the clouds have gone to sleep Angels can be seen in heaven's keep Alone in fear, they question why Goddamn, not an angel when I die" - Engel, Rammstein (English version)