At a St Louis high school

Yep, he had a list of shooters in his car and a note where he described he was a loner and a reject. Also, media outlets and people on Twitter have been posting the Facebook of a person who is NOT the shooter. So beware of false info.

his journal writings

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Engel wrote:

his journal writings

I wonder how much he researched the shooters on that list and if he had an obsession with prior mass shooters like William Atchison and Jonathan Sapirman. His hatred of psychiatrists and denial of mental illness reminds me of Adam Lanza. The fact that he specifically wanted to purchase a Hellfire trigger makes me think he was likely inspired by Salvador Ramos. The phrases "day of my retribution" and "next mass shooter of 2022" also show probable influence from Elliot Rodger and Nikolas Cruz. There's also some shooters who were left out of his "deadliest American shooters" list (Nidal Hassan, Jiverly Wong, Aaron Alexis, Ahmad Alissa).

I'm also curious as to why he hated Central VPA so much even a year after graduation and considered his time there the worst four years of his life. He doesn't really talk about what he experienced there (aside from him not having a social life and people joking about him being a school shooter) but maybe there are unreleased pages where he does. In October 2017, the time he claimed he first wanted to shoot up CVPA, he was presumably a freshman and had only attended the school for 1-2 months.

Ricochet wrote:

Engel wrote:

his journal writings

I wonder how much he researched the shooters on that list and if he had an obsession with prior mass shooters like William Atchison and Jonathan Sapirman. His hatred of psychiatrists and denial of mental illness reminds me of Adam Lanza. The fact that he specifically wanted to purchase a Hellfire trigger makes me think he was likely inspired by Salvador Ramos. The phrases "day of my retribution" and "next mass shooter of 2022" also show probable influence from Elliot Rodger and Nikolas Cruz. There's also some shooters who were left out of his "deadliest American shooters" list (Nidal Hassan, Jiverly Wong, Aaron Alexis, Ahmad Alissa).

I'm also curious as to why he hated Central VPA so much even a year after graduation and considered his time there the worst four years of his life. He doesn't really talk about what he experienced there (aside from him not having a social life and people joking about him being a school shooter) but maybe there are unreleased pages where he does. In October 2017, the time he claimed he first wanted to shoot up CVPA, he was presumably a freshman and had only attended the school for 1-2 months.

I assume he hated CVPA for the bullying he recieved there

Engel wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Engel wrote:

his journal writings

I wonder how much he researched the shooters on that list and if he had an obsession with prior mass shooters like William Atchison and Jonathan Sapirman. His hatred of psychiatrists and denial of mental illness reminds me of Adam Lanza. The fact that he specifically wanted to purchase a Hellfire trigger makes me think he was likely inspired by Salvador Ramos. The phrases "day of my retribution" and "next mass shooter of 2022" also show probable influence from Elliot Rodger and Nikolas Cruz. There's also some shooters who were left out of his "deadliest American shooters" list (Nidal Hassan, Jiverly Wong, Aaron Alexis, Ahmad Alissa).

I'm also curious as to why he hated Central VPA so much even a year after graduation and considered his time there the worst four years of his life. He doesn't really talk about what he experienced there (aside from him not having a social life and people joking about him being a school shooter) but maybe there are unreleased pages where he does. In October 2017, the time he claimed he first wanted to shoot up CVPA, he was presumably a freshman and had only attended the school for 1-2 months.

I assume he hated CVPA for the bullying he recieved there

Kinda weird, usually black kids are victims in school shootings

His police visit to his home for a crisis call a week before the shooting:



This one is the full bodycam footage of the visit (its an hour long):

Drum$tick wrote:

Engel wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Engel wrote:

his journal writings

I wonder how much he researched the shooters on that list and if he had an obsession with prior mass shooters like William Atchison and Jonathan Sapirman. His hatred of psychiatrists and denial of mental illness reminds me of Adam Lanza. The fact that he specifically wanted to purchase a Hellfire trigger makes me think he was likely inspired by Salvador Ramos. The phrases "day of my retribution" and "next mass shooter of 2022" also show probable influence from Elliot Rodger and Nikolas Cruz. There's also some shooters who were left out of his "deadliest American shooters" list (Nidal Hassan, Jiverly Wong, Aaron Alexis, Ahmad Alissa).

I'm also curious as to why he hated Central VPA so much even a year after graduation and considered his time there the worst four years of his life. He doesn't really talk about what he experienced there (aside from him not having a social life and people joking about him being a school shooter) but maybe there are unreleased pages where he does. In October 2017, the time he claimed he first wanted to shoot up CVPA, he was presumably a freshman and had only attended the school for 1-2 months.

I assume he hated CVPA for the bullying he recieved there

Kinda weird, usually black kids are victims in school shootings

This also took place at a majority black school, some white kids attend it too

I wonder why Harris specifically chose October 24th as the date of the attack. The only reason I can think of is because that date marked 5 months since the Uvalde shooting.

The investigation is closed. They are going to release some stuff on Monday in a press conference

Engel wrote:

The investigation is closed. They are going to release some stuff on Monday in a press conference

Hope they release bodycam footage and/or CCTV

Akrn1337 wrote:

Engel wrote:

The investigation is closed. They are going to release some stuff on Monday in a press conference

Hope they release bodycam footage and/or CCTV

They are releasing them on Wed. They are also going to release the investigative report in a couple of weeks after they are done redacting it

The bodycam and cctv have been released today:

Here's the bodycam:


The cctv I can't find the full 9 minutes on YouTube because I guess it hasn't been uploaded, but you can find it on r/masskillers.

Engel wrote:

The bodycam and cctv have been released today:

Here's the bodycam:


The cctv I can't find the full 9 minutes on YouTube because I guess it hasn't been uploaded, but you can find it on r/masskillers.

I knew you would lose your shit over this being released hahaha

The CCTV:

they should have given him reparation's for slavery!

Jason wrote:

I wonder why Harris specifically chose October 24th as the date of the attack. The only reason I can think of is because that date marked 5 months since the Uvalde shooting.

ngl this does seem possible, not to correlate or nothin but izhevsk shooting happened on the 5th month anniversary of veshkayma shooting. this happened on 5th anniversary of uvalde. coincidence i don't think so

Oh shit im tinker head wrong thread

The man Orlando bought his PA-15 from was suspected of being involved in arms trafficking

A transcript of some things Orlando said in the crisis call bodycam from what I could make out:
"I purchased an AR-15"

Some of these are not in order

"Wednesday"

"it was...already made"

"and I bought it from a private seller"

"I went home (?) and i realized somebody went inside my room and...I looked in"

"I put it in a box"

"Sorry (or so?) I just...didn't think she would find it"

"No (or nah) this is the first time...of like this level" (after the officers asked him has his mom called the police on him before over something she didn't want him having)

"Thyroid problem but I (?) (rest of sentence unintelligable due to background noise/sound)" after the officers asked him if he took medication for anything, mental or physical

"I dont even know where to store it man"

"I can't just keep it in the car for now?"

"I just spent my money man!"

"It was a private seller"

"I'm going home then (or I'm) going to bed"

"I don't care, It's not hers it's mine!"

"I'm not finna bother nobody I don't want to talk to yall right now"

"I don't have bullets or anything"

"Just take the bus" (after his mom told him his sister won't let him take her car anymore, so how would he get to work in the morning)

"That's my hard earned money!"

"So where is the (audio was muted mid-sentence, probably said gun or ar-15) right now?"

"I just want the rifle (or my) man I worked so hard for that, and I spent my hard earned money on that!"

"I was even (or already) planning on moving out"

"My mom (?) can't have my stuff"

"Can I just get it back? And then just go take it to the storage unit? Tommorow or (rest is unintelligable)" though he might have been asking the officers if they themsleves could just take it to the storage unit

"I dont even wanna talk---I don't even wanna look at her"

"I didn't even know that (can't make out rest of sentence)" when one of the officers told him some gunstores will storage his gun for safekeeping

"I can own a long gun (or rifle?)" After his mom told him he can't drink or smoke in her house

Around August of 2021, a few months after he graduated, someone from Orlandos workplace called his mother to tell him about a suicide attempt/or ideation. Orlando had a knife in his room and he was going to kill himself with it. My guess is he told one of his co-workers about what he was thinking/going to do and they called his mom. This was his first suicide attempt

His mom says he was suppossed to go to college but he never did. He applied for a part time job (his sister said he worked in a food service, though what exactly he did at his job its not known) and all he ever wanted to do was sleep. Go to work, sleep, etc

He purchased some of his gear/equipment from OpticsPlanet.com, and LA Police Gear (in addition to essential tactical)

He had bipolar disorder

Info dump: (won't be everything but I'll post more sometime later)

Orlando was 6 foot tall and weighed 148 pounds

He worked at Cardinal Rittler Senoir Services as a dietary aid in South county, St Louis, down south outside of the city. He worked at this job since he was In high school

He actually graduated in the spring of 2021, not June like the rest of his classmates because he was upset his family wasn't going to go to the graduation ceremony, so therefore he wasn't going to it either

Coworkers remember Orlando being shy and quiet but a relatively good worker, who occasionally had attendance problems. One of his coworkers sometimes would give him rides to work. He liked listening to thr senior citizens stories.

He worked October 21st and 22nd, but did not show up for work the next day or on October 24th, his work tried to call him but he did not pick up.

He left a note at CRSS and one of his coworkers found it and called the police and his family. Orlando tried to commit suicide with a knife by slitting his wrists.

He dated one girl from CRSS, a fellow co-worker, whom he would see once a week for 2 or 3 hours. They would have dates in his car or at Tower Grove Park in the city. The girlfriend stated he liked dancing, going to work, and playing video games. He also admitted to her he liked watching pornography. She admitted to loving him

So in case you guys didn't already know, the police report came out today.

They redacted his DOB

Maybe this information can be obtained via FOIA

"Rosenberg-Cox stated Orlando H. was a former student. He never took any of her classes. He was very helpful towards her and would help carry things for her. He was very quiet, and he hung out with the Gamers."

Orlando entered Jean Kuczka's class by shooting the door lock and unlocking the door and said "Ya'll gonna die today" or "Ya'll are gonna fucking die" and then loaded a magazine in his gun.
Kuczka asked Orlando to "Please leave us alone" before Orlando shot her. He fired more shots in the room before leaving.

In the gym or dance class, Orlando shouted "I hate this school. I hate everybody!"

Orlando was shot 10 times by police in the computer lab. Officers tried to give him medical aid until EMS arrived (he was in critical condition). At 9:51 A.M he was declared dead at the hospital (idk if he died immedietly or if he died a little later)

Orlando planned to burn his house down and kill his family inside but he did not go through with this part of his plan.

At 5:30 in the morning, his car was seen pulling up to a curb near a construction site by 2 workers, which they thought was a strange time for someone to be around that time of day

His Dodge Avenger was registered to his older sister, who let him use her car after she got a new one, and it was a year 2013, not 2012 as it was commonly reported

"Witness Molly Keeton stated she is the manager at the Our Lady of Life Apartments, which is located at 7655 Watson Road, St. Louis MO. She stated that Orlando H. was a quiet kid, but a hard worker. She knew that he had recently began to have car problems and began to miss work.
Witness Keeton stated that Orlando H. had a rough home life and was often depressed. She stated that he was on depression medication and that you could always tell when he was not on it, because his mood would change drastically.Witness Keeton stated that she knew Orlando H. had been to St. Anthony s Psychiatric Ward on multiple occasions. She stated that she could not remember the last time he was there or how long he was at the facility. She further stated that Orlando H. had tried to harm himself on multiple occasions; he even attempted to take his own life."

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"Witness Jones advised that a friend and co-worker of Orlando, who she identified as Ledra LJ Craig, was arrested for homicide. Soon after that Orlando H. s demeanor began to change in a negative manner. Witness Jones continued with the interview and gave several employee names who could attest to Orlando H. smannerisms, demeanor and work ethics. Witness Jones stated that she last saw Orlando H. on October 20, 2022. Jones advised that she felt that there was something different about him, because he barely even recognized her when she spoke to him."

"Breanna Taylor stated that she met Orlando H. in 2019 when they were both employed at Cardinal Ritter Senior Services (Our Lady of Life Apartment) and worked as Dietary Aids.
Taylor advised that on October 24, 2022, she learned about the shooting at CVPA via Facebook. She was advised of the information by her co-worker Shantae who is employed at the Waffle House located at 5330 S. Lindbergh, St. Louis, MO.
Taylor advised that Orlando H. was shy, lonely, and kept to himself. She stated that they would see each other about one time per week for two to three hours at a time. She advised that their dates were often in his car or at Tower Grove Park. Taylor stated that Harris talked a lot about dancing, work, and playing video games. She also stated that he never told her that he was bullied. He did not watch a lot of TV. He told her that he looked at pornography at home and he did not have social media.
Taylor also advised that he never talked about weapons or explosives and stated that she felt safe with him and told him that she loved him.

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"Christopher O Brien stated he was employed at Cardinal Ritter Senior Services between the years of 2020 and 2021. He stated that Orlando H. was already working for the facility when he began to work there.
Witness O Brien stated he did not physically hang out with Orlando H., but they associated with one another by playing video games with each other. The video game that they had in common was Fortnite, and they played it virtually online.O Brien advised that the last time he spoke with Orlando H. was approximately one year ago. He stated that Orlando H. was nice and easy going. When asked if Orlando H. spoke about weapons, OBrien advised that they spoke about guns that he liked but was advised by Orlando H. that he did not possess any guns. Orlando H. also told OBrien that he liked shooting guns as a hobby and that he had learned how to handle guns when he was in the Boy Scouts. O Brien advised that he was surprised to hear what Orlando H. had done. He further believed that Orlando H. had mental health issues because while he was employed at the Cardinal Ritter facility, he heard that he had been admitted into a mental health facility for a period of time. O Brien also advised the agents that he was no longer employed at the senior living facility."

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"Witness Vernette Johnson stated she has known Orlando H. since he was younger and that he attended a daycare that she once worked at. She stated that when Orlando H. was younger, he had a lot of anger and she had not seen Orlando H. until he started working at the Senior Living Facility (Our Lady of Life Apartments).
Witness Johnson advised that when he started working at Our Lady of Life Apartments, he was a much nicer young man, who was very quiet and reserved. Johnson stated Orlando H. would go see a doctor for his mental illness on Wednesdays and Thursdays. She advised that Orlando H. spoke about wanting to kill himself and was admitted to the hospital on multiple occasions.
Witness Johnson advised that Orlando H. was never violent towards anyone, nor did he talk about violence. She stated she never knew him to speak about guns or if he had any guns.
Witness Johnson stated that she blames Orlando H. s mother for all his issues. She stated his mother never gave him any support, whether it was physical or emotional. She stated that Orlando H. did not even walk at his graduation, because his family would not come. Johnson stated that she thinks that his mother was emotionally abusive towards him.
Johnson stated she last saw Orlando H. at work on Saturday, October 22, 2022. She advised that on that day he was not acting any different, he was just himself."

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"Dr. Patel was scheduled to see Orlando H. again in September, but he did not show up. On October 11, 2022, an attempt was made by a staff member of the clinic to reach out to Orlando H. to reschedule, but that was met with negative results.Dr. Patel advised that she was unsure, but she thought Orlando H. had two BJC psychiatry hospital stays and did not know if he was a patient at PCDC Psychiatric Care on Delmar Blvd."

"Witness Nicholas O Brien stated he first met Orlando H. on October 1, 2019. He advised he became friends with Orlando H. and stated that he was friendly and a funny person that enjoyed playing video games. He didnt notice any extremist behavior.
Witness Nicholas O Brien advised that Orlando H. did mention that he recently purchased some rifles and other guns from a private seller and then asked if he would like to go to the shooting range with him. Nicholas advised that he declined. Orlando H. mentioned to him that he had modified his rifle and he believed that Orlando H. used .223 and .559 ammunition rounds."

"Witness Christopher Baechle stated that he was the Chief Executive Officer at Cardinal Ritter Senior Services located at 7601 Watson Road., St. Louis, MO.
Witness Baechle stated he learned on today s date (10/24/2022), that former Cardinal Ritter Dietary Aide employee Orlando H. was the active shooter from the Central Visual and Performing Arts High School. He provided the agents with Orlando H. s personnel record.
Witness Baechle stated that Orlando H. worked for Cardinal Ritter as a server, and that he worked on October 22, 2022.Orlando H. was scheduled to work the following day (10/23/2022), but he was a no-call, no-show. Cardinal Ritter Senior Services attempted to call Orlando H. on the morning of October 24, 2022 (Active Shooter incident) to see if he would be at work for Monday s shift. The phone call went unanswered. Witness Baechle advised that the only complaints he heard regarding Orlando H. was his occasional work attendance issues. Other than that, he was thought of as being a relatively good worker."

"Witness Elvana Mihal stated that she has worked as a receptionist in the dietary section for Cardinal Ritter Senior Services for approximately thirteen years.
She stated that she met and got to know Orlando H. when he worked as a server in the dietary section. She described him as very quiet, but quick and a good worker
Witness Mihal stated that the last time she saw Orlando H. was on Friday (10/21/2022) and Saturday (10/22/2022). She stated that Orlando H. gave her a ride home on Saturday and told her that he wasn t coming back. She told Orlando H. that he shouldn t quit because it was a good job for him. Mihal stated that she didn t understand what he meant when he told her he wasn t coming back or why he was quitting.
Witness Mihal described Orlando H. as often being down and suffering from depression. She knew that he took
medication for his depression. Mihal advised that Orlando H. shared with her that he did not have a good relationship with his mother, and he often kept to himself.
Witness Mihal was not aware of Orlando H. being angry with anyone, but remembered that he may have told her that he was having problems with people while in school. She stated she could never imagine him doing something like this and they never discussed guns or anything like that.
Witness Mihal advised that she was aware that Orlando H. had a crush on her and recalled that he bought flowers and chocolates for her. From time to time, Orlando H. would drive her home from work, so she didnt have to walk. Mihal denied being in a relationship with or dating Orlando H.
Witness Mihal advised that she was forty-six years of age and told Orlando H. that she had a boyfriend. She further advised that she did not believe that her rejection of him would cause any of his issues."

"Witness Scott Parkinson stated that he was the Facilities Administrator since June of 2022. He stated that he has known Orlando H. since June of 2022, and described him as being quiet and one that kept to himself. He advised that he heard through other Cardinal Ritter employees that Orlando H. had been harassed in the past, had issues on a public bus and a bad home life.
Witness Parkinson advised that Orlando H. resided with his mother and sister, and that none of his family members attended his graduation. He stated that he heard that Orlando H. attempted suicide approximately six months ago. Witness Parkinson advised that Orlando H. socialized with Cardinal Ritter employee Shaunta Tomlin. Tomlin gave Orlando H. rides to work.
Witness Parkinson stated that he last saw Orlando H. at work on Thursday, October 20, 2022. He advised that he saw Orlando H. clock in/out for work on Saturday, October 22, 2022. He stated that Orlando H. did not show up for work on Sunday, October 23, 2022. He advised that Cardinal Ritter attempted contact with Orlando H. on Monday, October 24,2022 (morning), verifying his work status, but the attempt to contact him was to no avail."

His mom was notified at 4:15 that her son was the shooter

"Parent/Witness Tanya Ward stated Orlando H. graduated from Central Visual and Performing Arts High School back in the spring of 2021. She stated that he worked at Cardinal Ritter Senior Services as a Dietary Aide (worked in the
cafeteria). She stated that Orlando H. enjoyed working with the senior citizens and listening to their stories. Ward advised that Orlando H. s high school experience for the first two years was normal, but then things changed after COVID. It was as if his heart wasn t in it anymore after he went back to school after being out of school for an entire year.Ward advised that Orlando H. graduated on time in 2021, but before he graduated, he had an altercation with a teacher. When asked who the teacher was and what the altercation was about, Ward was unable to provide a lot of information. She thought that Orlando H. just did not like the teacher. She did advise that the teacher was a male and that he was an academic teacher, possibly teaching science, math, or history. Ward further stated that Orlando H. loved band in school. Ward advised the Special Agents that Orlando H. attempted suicide three times. The first time was in August of 2021approximately two weeks before he was scheduled to leave out of state for college. She stated that he slit his wrists and left a note at his job. His co-workers found it and called the police.
Orlando H. was transported to Barnes Jewish Hospital and placed in a psychiatric facility on Delmar Boulevard, and he stayed there for a period of time. Ward advised that eventually Orlando H. would be released from the facility, and due to his psychiatric enrollment case, he now had a therapist who saw him regularly.
Ward advised that the second time he contemplated suicide was during the holidays in 2021, possibly around
Thanksgiving. She stated that during one of their sessions, Orlando H. told his therapist that he had thoughts of harming himself. The therapist told her to have him admitted and she did so. She stated that the hospital did not keep him long, because he was out before Christmas.
Ward advised that the third time Orlando H. attempted suicide was approximately between the months of April and June of 2022. She stated that Orlando H. drank anti-freeze and went to the hospital immediately. After he was released from the hospital, Orlando H. advised Ward that he was not going back to the hospital and stopped contact with the therapist.

Ward advised that on or about October 15, 2022, her youngest son, called her and told her that two packages arrived at the house from various gun and ammunition places and that the packages were addressed to Orlando H.Ward stated that when she arrived at the house, she took the packages and hid them. She would later discover that Orlando H. received emails from the companies he had purchased the items from, and they asked about the packagesarrival at the house.
She stated she tried to lie and tell Orlando H. that the packages did not arrive. Then her daughter Noneeka Harris was able to open the packages and discovered that Orlando H. purchased a body armor vest, magazine holsters and
magazines. She (Noneeka Harris) went to Orlando H. s bedroom and searched it. She found an AR rifle in an old TV Box. After learning what was in the packages, Ward stated she checked Orlando H. s bank account and found more purchases for tactical gear and firearms. She also discovered that Orlando H. went to a gun show.
Ward advised that with all the above information gathered, she decided to call the St. Louis Metropolitan Police
Department. Crisis Intervention Officers responded to her residence.
They collected information and informed Ward that they could not take the gun away from Orlando H. After being advised this, she thought of family members who could assist her with her dilemma and take the gun away. Immediately Orlando H. began to argue with her that he worked hard to earn the money to purchase the gun and that he wanted to keep it.Orlando H. decided that he would appease his mother and the entire family. It was decided that Orlando H. would purchase a storage facility and store his gun and all the other tactical gear, to include ammunition which would arrive at the home later in the week at the storage facility.
It should be noted that Ward had access to Orlando H. s bank account and during the interview she showed Special Agent McKenzie and Special Agent Field bank transactions which referenced the purchases she had spoken of (anything referencing weapons and police gear).
Ward then advised the Special Agents about his sleeping hours and his modes of transportation.

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The other FBI Special Agents who responded to assist with the search warrant:
Special Agent Matthew Wallace
Special agent Noah Pittman
Special Agent Matthew Giegling
Special Agent Matthew Sutton
Special Agent David Ogurek
Special Agent Andrew Haap
Special Agent Jason Hamlin
Special Agent Christopher Faber
Special Agent Patrick Carolan
Upon Special Agent Zwiesler s arrival at the storage facility, access was gained into the storage unit by drilling out the lock.
It was discovered that the unit was completely empty, and nothing was seized. The search was completed at
approximately 3:45 P.M.
This concludes the memorandum prepared by Special Agent Daniel Zwiesler, relative to the search warrant of the of the Storage Facility.

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On Tuesday October 18, 2022, Tanya Ward advised that Noneeka Harris drove her brother to the storage facility (Extra Space Storage), located at 7730 Watson Road, and placed the firearm and all the other items in the storage locker.Noneeka Harris had a conversation with her brother (Orlando H.). She tried to speak with him about whatever it was that he was going through. Orlando H. stated he had the firearm to shoot at the range.
Tanya Ward advised that relative to BJC Mental Health Resources, she never received any paperwork relative to his sessions because he was an adult. She also advised that she never received anything relative to his past care at BJC