who's to blame?

i remember voting in a poll that was in the old forum i think. it was something like who's to blame, the jocks or E&D. Anyone know the results? or new thought?

not the jocks, not e & d or their parents.

the school is to blame, I think. And also the police and the people who didn´t see how dangerous Harris was. I mean there was a where Harris stated he was not only suicidal also homicidal. That was big red flag, just my opinion. If I were Eric mother I think I would send him to a psychiatry if I would know that he not only suicidal, also homicidal. Meds and therapy alone didn´t work.

greecelightning86 wrote:

i remember voting in a poll that was in the old forum i think. it was something like who's to blame, the jocks or E&D. Anyone know the results? or new thought?

You can create a new poll if you'd like or I can do it for you, I just need to know what choices you want in the poll.

Eric and Dylan, Frank DeAngelis and most of his staff, all the students who ever bullied and ostracized them, the staff at the diversion program for not inquiring deeper into Eric's written answer that he felt both homicidal and suicidal.
Many people also feel that Eric's therapist Kevin Albert deserves a large portion of the blame but I'm not sure.
I don't know what Eric told him or how he acted around him.
For all I know Eric might have never revealed anything and just chatted the hour away while counting off the minutes left in his appointment in his mind. I need more information before I could properly fix a portion of blame for the therapist in my mind.

Eric and Dylan.

Eric and Dylan are to blame. They are the ones who planned it for a year and they are the ones who pulled the triggers.

Mason wrote:

Eric and Dylan are to blame. They are the ones who planned it for a year and they are the ones who pulled the triggers.

There were so many factors, but pretty much this. It can't be blamed entirely on other people.

I remember that old thread, I *think* I actually started that thread, though can't be sure now - it's been years.

Lots of things influenced Eric and Dylan, but they are ultimately to blame, nothing can excuse them.


Dylan was certainly the first one who seems to have contemplated suicide and possibly homicide. These themes come up in his writings before they appear in anything of Eric's.

Still, I believe while ti was likely Dylan who first came up with the, probably fuzzy and imprecise, ideas it was Eric who made it a reality.

Dylan was a dreamer. He would make fantasies, but imho alone he would simply not have the organisational skills (and possibly the homicidal push) to actually go and kill epople in the way they did in 1999. He might have commited suicide alone tho.

Eric... I do not think he came up with the idea, but I think that once he first heard about Dylan makign some vague notions of it, it was Eric who jumped at the opportunity and said: "Let's do it!" and then actually made steps to implement it.

Dylan imagined it, Eric made it a reality. That's my view.

Everybody to a certain degree & on the other hand nobody.

I believe it was the prefect storm.

No doubt each kid had biologically disordered characteristics that were exposed to the extreme by behavioral developments caused by others & in some cases themselves.