Supporter = fangirl?

Okay, here's something I've always wanted to know:

Is there any qualitative difference between a supporter and a fangirl?

I'm neither. I'm a "researcher," I guess. I believe that Eric and Dylan's crimes were monstrous and unforgivable. I mourn the boys who might have grown into men who could have done something good with their lives, not the boys who murdered their classmates in cold blood.

But, at the same time, I am fascinated by their crimes, and obsessed with uncovering their motives. I want to know what drove them to kill.

I would be lying if I said I think about the victims and the survivors nearly as much as I do the perpetrators. (I feel somewhat guilty about this.) I have nothing but respect and sympathy for them and their families. But Eric and Dylan are the ones who hold most of my interest. (One survivor whose story does stick in my mind is Patrick Ireland.)

fangirls are brainless supporters.pretty much that.

Supporter? Supporter of what? You mean like the people who support or stick up for what they did? Then yea, wouldn't that be a fan?

I think most of us are more interested in Dylan and Eric than the victims. I don't think that makes us supporters or fans though. With the victims, most of them had pretty normal lives. They were normal kids but unfortunately were murdered. There's not much there to research or read about. With Dylan and Eric, there are so many questions and so we start digging around to find any answers we can.

Also I think it's just human nature to be interested in crimes and the people who commit them. How you go about it though is a whole other thing. When you're just interested in finding out the facts and details of the case and the perpetrator/s. That's on thing and completely normal. Even if you can relate to the boys and can understand what they went through and what may have drove them to murder their classmates. That's understandable too. But when you have these crazies who go around claiming these two are Gods and that the victims deserved it. Well then you've got some serious problems if you 'support' what they did.

And most of these 'fans' don't know shit about the case. They don't actually research it or read about it. They watch a few videos on Youtube of Dylan and Eric pretending to shoot up their school and then they're in love with them. But when asked actual questions about it, they know very little or nothing at all.

I had this one obsessed Dylan fan arguing with me on the Facebook page before. I posted a picture of Dylan at his Mother's 50th Birthday party and mentioned how it was just weeks before the shooting. Well this fan comes along calling me an idiot and whatnot, saying that his Mom's birthday is in March (which isn't anywhere near the date of the shooting) and that she could tell by Dylan's hair that the photo was taken the year prior, when Dylan was 16. Well, if this 'fan' would have done their research, then they would've known that the photo was indeed just a few weeks before the massacre.

It took me about 2 seconds to show proof that this photo was taken in 1999. Not only do a lot of them know nothing about the case but they also don't know much about the boys they claim they're 'in love' with.

This one

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I guess a fangirl is just sort of a more 'hardcore' supporter.

Also, I too think much less about the victims. I don't feel guilty though, it's just that they didn't do what E&D did. People dying doesn't interest me (no disrespect meant), it happens everyday. But crime (particularly more severe and unusual), and the minds of those who commit it, that is what I find interesting.

I agree with Jenn. There are so many of them on Tumblr too. I try and correct them when they post incorrect "facts" and they get all snippy with me. I bet not a single one of them have ever even looked at the 11k report!

CaptainMidnight wrote:

fangirls are brainless supporters.pretty much that.

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I think you are generalizing too much Captain.Those of us who have a devotion to E &D are from many different walks of life .I've talked to a lot of other Columbiners over the years and I haven't met many who I'd call brainless.Just the opposite actually.
We are looked down on and get a bad rap because a lot of people are offended by others having anything but hatred and disdain for anyone who has killed but we are not a bad group of people overall.

PaintItBlack wrote:

CaptainMidnight wrote:

fangirls are brainless supporters.pretty much that.

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I think you are generalizing too much Captain.Those of us who have a devotion to E &D are from many different walks of life .I've talked to a lot of other Columbiners over the years and I haven't met many who I'd call brainless.Just the opposite actually.
We are looked down on and get a bad rap because a lot of people are offended by others having anything but hatred and disdain for anyone who has killed but we are not a bad group of people overall.

I understand what you're saying,and agree.
I made a poor choice of words.
My point is,the word 'fangirl' as used in this thread describes a girl(or boy in some cases) who cheers,loves,and idolizes E&D.

I respect them,have sympathy for them,and relate to them in many things,but the fangirls I'm talking about are the ones really confused about what they feel,and morphs Columbine into a romantic comedy scenario which by no means represents what really happened in Littleton,and I'm not even talking about NBK,but the city's atmosphere in general.

Well, I'm not a supporter of what they did because it was wrong nor am I a fangirl, because they aren't celebrities or rock stars. No matter why they did what they did, they're murderers. I do however say though that had I been at CHS when Eric was, oh I would have been all over him, because I thought he was hot and he attracted me. Dylan too but I don't think Dylan would have liked me. That's all for my POV. I do also, feel sorry for Eric and Dylan because they didn't have to do what they did had someone or people helped them and listened to them, like Marilyn Manson said, and no one did.

It's an interesting perspective. I've been open about me... I was one of the founding members of the yahoo groups back in the day (I was 17) we tried back then to look at the whole 15 people died not 13.. we raised money for the victims families and anyone who condoned was shunned and yes:. I did talk to Brenda... I took a long time away from the case too

I think it's ok to acknowledge attraction because it just shows you anyone can do horrible things. Fan girl to me is condoning. I've also worked in an industry where I had to keep sci fi fangirls at bay

I still find it amazing they still have them after all these years lol

They're both very wrong.