CVA Library Analysis Video

If you haven't seen it, here it is. In this video he takes a photo of the library from a time when Eric and Dylan were shooting out of the windows and messes around with different colors and saturations etc to point out a figure to the left side of the video.

What do you guys think of this? I think that the one figure could be Eric. *Could* I am not sure at all. I want to keep messing with this myself.

I remember years ago there was a photo where people claimed they could see a figure and it turned out to be a lamp. But with one of his newer videos changing everything I thought about the timeline and dropping off the bags I really don't know!

Other than the potential white shirt that Eric was wearing, I can't see anything else.

I think it's reaching and it's really just nothing.

I am skeptical as I couldn't see anything definite. Yes, there was a potential white shirt, but it was so difficult to see anything definite. It could have been anything you wanted to see.

spinvault wrote:

I am skeptical as I couldn't see anything definite. Yes, there was a potential white shirt, but it was so difficult to see anything definite. It could have been anything you wanted to see.

I felt kinda the same way, It is like when people say they can hear hidden lyrics in songs. You don't hear them, then listen with the words in front of you then you do hear them.

I believe it is Eric, I was sold when he zoomed in to reveal the face on the figure on the left. I can see the shirt and the black suspenders, and the face and hair.

I have been looking at it. I am almost sure it is the lamp

Hopefully this posts ok.  If not I will edit.
But, CVA spent a lot of time looking at one specific photo.  If he did look at other photos of the same area taken at other times he did not mention it.  Anyway....here is his photo....
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Here is another photo from the same type of angle...from when Pat was being taken out
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And another from Pat from a diff angle

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See that lamp?  You can see the lamp in this video at about 26 seconds in:



Whatever CVA is seeing here is blocking the lampshade.  As you can see in the video the lamp is right up against the window between the chairs.   Now that could have been moved, but from the photos it appears the lamp is still right by the windows when Pat was being taken out.  So whatever it was in his video is between the lamp and the window....I think it is the lamp and just an odd angle/bad rendering of it.

Thoughts?

Lizpuff wrote:

Hopefully this posts ok.  If not I will edit.
But, CVA spent a lot of time looking at one specific photo.  If he did look at other photos of the same area taken at other times he did not mention it.  Anyway....here is his photo....
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Here is another photo from the same type of angle...from when Pat was being taken out
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And another from Pat from a diff angle

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See that lamp?  You can see the lamp in this video at about 26 seconds in:



Whatever CVA is seeing here is blocking the lampshade.  As you can see in the video the lamp is right up against the window between the chairs.   Now that could have been moved, but from the photos it appears the lamp is still right by the windows when Pat was being taken out.  So whatever it was in his video is between the lamp and the window....I think it is the lamp and just an odd angle/bad rendering of it.

Thoughts?

Way too tall to be the lamp.

Okay here is some information to help clear things up a little bit regarding this topic.


First, here is the picture taken around 12:02-12:05pm:

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Second, here is the picture taken around 12:34-12:39pm:

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You can compare the similarities/differences with these 2 pictures.


And, in reference to the lampshade:

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In the Fire Department Video you can see the stand but the shade was taken as evidence:

From 11:40-12:22 of this video:

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Here are some pictures to help clarify:

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*Hope that helps to clarify some things about this topic.

Thank you SA

So whatever CVA is seeing was still there after the suicides!!

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Hmmm, I agree with the comparison of the two pictures, but I don't think its the lamp. But I would like to know where you got the time from, SA.  on CNN's timeline I see the 12:34 - 12:39, They don't have that picture.


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But that is very strange then, guys. I clearly see a torso and head.
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Great job though, everyone. Awesome discussion!

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Hmmm, I agree with the comparison of the two pictures, but I don't think its the lamp. But I would like to know where you got the time from, SA.  on CNN's timeline I see the 12:34 - 12:39, They don't have that picture.


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But that is very strange then, guys. I clearly see a torso and head.
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Great job though, everyone.  Awesome discussion!

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Based on the photo I believe SA got them here

Before this I was never able to see a person, especially the eyes, nose, etc. With this video I finally can see that it could be. Wow!

How can there be a person there during a shootout? Wouldn't a library survivor/witness point that out in reports? I mean who are we exactly expecting to see right there?

shades wrote:

How can there be a person there during a shootout? Wouldn't a library survivor/witness point that out in reports? I mean who are we exactly expecting to see right there?

I think the obvious answer people are thinking is that it is Eric due to the "suspenders" and "holding a gun or something" Being that SA pointed out that the object whatever it was was still there after the suicides I think it is something stationary in the library as opposed to a person.

I am con-fuuuused.

shades wrote:

I am con-fuuuused.

You and me both. Ugh!

What are you guys confused about?

I'm confused that the picture being analysed is suppose to occur during the shootout and then now we're suppose to think it's Eric which if it is - no surprise? It sounded like CVA is questioning whether it's other people, another person there?

And now there's this mystery of the tall lamp that keeps getting in the way? Damn lamp! It's an evil lamp!

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I'm confused that the picture being analysed is suppose to occur during the shootout and then now we're suppose to think it's Eric which if it is - no surprise? It sounded like CVA is questioning whether it's other people, another person there?

And now there's this mystery of the tall lamp that keeps getting in the way? Damn lamp! It's an evil lamp!

Oh hahahaha!

I think CVA is trying to say that the figure he is pointing to in the video is actually Eric during the shootout. Not to the right with the smoke that everyone sees.

He says in the video that it is someone with short hair in a white shirt with a black type of vest holding a gun or similar object. I am pretty sure CVA is trying to say that it is Eric.

And the figure that the other person in his video was able to see I think he is surmising that is Dylan.

Well if that picture is during the shootout wouldn't it be impossible for Eric to be on the left? The shots seem to come from the far right and the 'figure' is standing in plain sight near the windows with cops all around. I'd like to think it's them but considering those circumstances, I think not.

Unless that picture is of smoke coming from the cracks in the windows caused by pipe bombs or something, post or pre-shootout. Even in that case, I find it hard to believe that they would stand so close to the windows and risk being injured to the point of surviving and risking being captured.

Would like to hear more thoughts on this.


edit: Also, isn't the supposed Eric-like figure on the left 'levitating'? From that angle we would see maybe head and neck, not close to full body. Goddamn Eric drank some Red Bull in there I bet. First thing I thought when I saw the figure on the left was 'Why is Eric wearing Sasuke's shirt?". But, DAMN , a person standing in that position from that angle seems pretty much impossible to me.

But yeah, I don't want to dismiss anything, I could be really wrong so I'd love to hear more about this.

Did anyone notice the mangled window blinds in the Columbine Library After Shooting video? It doesn't look like the same window, but is it possible that the figure could actually be damaged blinds, or even light reflecting in the angled broken glass of that window?

It is kinda eerie that when he zoomed in you can make out a face and that it resembles Eric, but honestly with the low quality of the image, I made out a lot of other faces in the background too, of all shapes and sizes haha

I think it might just be nothing at all. If you play around with contrast, and are determined to find something out of jet black you will make out almost anything.
Either way if it's Eric then it's not really news to me. I thought we may have found another person there or something but It's just...odd shapes from colouring.

Reminds me of this:
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"is a psychological phenomenon involving a stimulus (an image or a sound) wherein the mind perceives a familiar pattern of something where none actually exists.

Common examples are perceived images of animals, faces, or objects in cloud formations, the man in the moon, the moon rabbit, and hidden messages within recorded music played in reverse or at higher- or lower-than-normal speeds."

We want to see a face and so we do. Does not mean that it is there

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Reminds me of this:
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"is a psychological phenomenon involving a stimulus (an image or a sound) wherein the mind perceives a familiar pattern of something where none actually exists.

Common examples are perceived images of animals, faces, or objects in cloud formations, the man in the moon, the moon rabbit, and hidden messages within recorded music played in reverse or at higher- or lower-than-normal speeds."

We want to see a face and so we do. Does not mean that it is there

It's a form of matrixing similar to that in the paranormal world. Seeing an angel or ghost in a photo/video.

Is it possible that it's Eric or Dylan? Definitely. Is there any conclusive evidence based on the youtube analyzing of said video? nope.