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| Subject: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:06 pm | |
| CN = Control # or Lead # ERIC HARRIS EVIDENCE: Class of '98 List: 15 Entries Shit List: 30 Entries Girls: 8 Entries Telephone List: 13 Entries Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Bag of Misc Documents - Removed from Upper Level Room Computer Desk CN 3481 Notations in German – referred to JCSO Danielle Steinman for Translation CN 3493 Yahoo Maps & "Mon 0630" Wayne Harris' flight from Centennial Airport to Duluth on 4-12-99 @ 6:30 am CN 3494 Game Info not relevant CN 3495 Kathryn Thompson – asked out by Eric & went to Chili's restaurant with him CN 3496 Does not know Harris Family Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Files on Eric - Removed from Upper Level Computer Room CN 3616 School & Medical Records sorted & listed Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Sony Microcassette Recorder "Nixon" - Removed from Kitchen Table Eric indicates the reason why these things are happening & states it will happen in "less than 9 hours now" Eric says "People will die because of me" & "It will be a day that will be remembered forever" After that portion of the tape there is a discussion between numerous individuals including one with an oriental accent Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Receipts - Removed from Basement Family Room Trash Can CN 1180 2 "Blue Rhino" Propane Tanks bought 4-20-99 @ 8:36 am for $79.16 from Conoco 7540 West Chatfield Avenue CN 1180 1 "Blue Rhino" Propane Tank bought 4-20-99 @ 9:12 am for $52.39 from Texaco 6798 West Ottawa Avenue [Tips - Tammy McGinnis 13346-13347] | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:06 pm | |
| Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] 8mm Basement Tape 10377-10381 - Removed from Top of Eric's Hutch CN 1181 Chris Lau 9-11-65 CN 1232 & CN 2543 Yoshi S Carroll 6-21-80 CN 1234 Philip Joseph Duran 11-28-76 & Mark Edward Manes 3-25-77 CN 1238 Green Mountain Guns CN 1280 Mark C Stevens 11-11-58 CN 1286 4-11-99 Purchase from Army Navy of Coleman Fuel/Propane/CO2/BDU's CN 1367 Radio Shack Parts CN 2193 Unknown ? CN 2209 & CN 2047 Tanya Worlock 9-29-82 CN 2251 & CN 1666 Karen Ann Schott 10-13-80 CN 2256 & CN 1039 Megan Steckly Grade 9 [Jeffco not 100% sure of this Lead] CN 2280 & CN 1625 Michelle LNU 4-25-81 Aurora - George Mumma 4-30-99 CN 2288 Green Mountain Guns Receipt CN 2317 & CN 2087 Bowling Class CN 2327 Cale Martin Kennedy 8-3-81 CN 2448 TIER - DOOM Wad CN 2527 & CN ? & CN ? Brandon E Larson Grade 10 CN 2538 Trip Bomb @ Eric's Former Residence 7844 South Teller Court CN 2543 & CN 1232 Yoshi S Carroll 6-21-80 CN 2631 Deputy Timothy S Walsh Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Notebook - Removed from Eric's Bed CN 1607 & [CN 2216] Robert "Bob" Hossein Kirgis 5-24-70 CN 1609 & CN 1953 Robyn Kay Anderson 11-4-80 CN 1610 Christopher M Reilly 9-15-81 CN 1625 Michelle LNU 4-25-81 Aurora - Kreutzer/Watson 4-28-99 CN 1953 Robyn Kay Anderson 11-4-80 - info only CN 2138 & CN 1903 "4-12-98 ..." Patrice Doyle 10-9-80/10-1-80 CN 2555 Computer Files | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:07 pm | |
| Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Notebook - Class of 98 Top of the "Should Have Died" List ?? Rocky Hoffschneider/Paul Maten/Anthony "Tony" Pyne/Doug Trujillo ?? CN 2197 Male 1-23-80 - attends Mesa College & played football with Kevin Harris CN 2201 Nathan Kugler 8-5-79 CN 2202 Male 4-6-80 - attends ? College & relentlessly abused Eric in gym class CN 2212 Male 4-16-80 - football player, friend of Rocky & worked @ Cooper Theatre CN 2214 Greg Hydle 9-18-79 CN 2308 Travis Rawls 7-11-80 CN 2321 Male 3-4-80 unable to contact CN 2322 Nicholas Mearsha 9-30-79 CN 2326 Male 9-23-79 - Cross Country/Track/Wrestling - on Debate Team/RNN - possibly in video class with Eric/Dylan & worked video projects with Eric/Dylan CN 2328 Male 5-11-80 - attends ? College - teased Eric in gym class "big head/skinny body" CN 2331 Male 3-23-80 - Football - no altercation with Eric/Dylan & no mutual friends CN 2335 Male - attends ? College/University on Basketball scholarship & no direct contact with Eric CN 2346 ? [Male] 11-6-79 unable to contact CN 2347 Male 11-24-79 - had confrontation with Joe Stair - Baseball team - ? of the Basketball team - no contact with Eric/Dylan *** Jason Brown, heroin addict from "Intervention" was one of the people on the White Hat List Item # ??? CN 1472 Female - First Name Only & Phone # on List - name/email on Eric's computer CN 1489 Karen Shepard 7-2-49 [Eric's Aunt on his mother's side] - her name was on 1 of only 10 on Eric's List Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Diagram, Folder w Papers & Jeffco Net Paper - Removed from Eric's Desk CN 1458 Unable to complete w/o further info - Jeff Kreutzer/Jon Watson 4-27-99/5-?-99 CN 1458 [Nikki Liston] - worked at Blackjack Pizza Oct '98 - Jackie Gee 4-27- 99/5-?-99 CN 1494 Jeffco Net memo - Internet Accounts - account exists only for Dylan CN 1807 Female - First Name Only - Jackie Gee 5-3-99 CN 1814 [Angel Pytlinski] not on CHS roster - Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] 11-17-98 mentions ? & Eric wants to fuck like hell & shorts she wore at work made him drool - ? team may have ? on an ? CN 1879 Unassigned - info only CN 1927 [Amanda?] - info only Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Itinerary on Torn Calendar Page - Removed from Kitchen Table CN 1236 HomeBase - gas & nails - check HomeBase - no gas/propane bought there CN 1271 "6:00 meet at KS" - possibly King Soopers | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:07 pm | |
| Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] 2 Pieces of Paper [Shit List] - Removed from Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] from Eric's Bookshelf CN 1808 Peggy Dodd - Teacher/Tech Lab/Comp Lab Assistant CN 1824 Ellin Hayes - Teacher/Hall Monitor CN 1874 Unassigned - info only CN 1880 Austin Stephen Eubanks 10-7-81 CN 1884 Ryan McGrath 2-9-81 CN 1887 Kevin James Hofstra 2-24-81 CN 1891 Lacy Koch's boyfriend 9-15-80 - intervened when Dylan called girl bitch gym class CN 1894 Dustin Harrison 5-2-80 CN 1896 Jason Thompson Grade 12 CN 1898 Insufficient info to ID CN 1901 Insufficient info to ID CN 1902 Insufficient info to ID CN 1903 & CN 2138 & CN 2449 Patrice Doyle 10-9-80/10-1-80 CN 1907 Kevin Robert Larson 7-31-81 CN 1932 info only CN 1936 & CN 50 & CN 51 Chatfield HS students/brothers ? - info only CN 1938 info only CN 2192 Unassigned - info only CN 2195 [Charles] Andy Milam 2-28-80 CN 2200 Lead Previously Done CN 2205 Erik Trenck CN 2219 Lead Covered 4-30-99 CN 2224 Joshua Swanson 6-20-81 CN 2228 Unassigned - info only CN 2230 Unassigned - info only CN 2233 Unassigned - info only CN 2234 Ryan Foster 11-6-80 CN 2235 Unassigned - info only CN 2237 Matthew Carmichael CN 2239 Unassigned - info only CN 2246 Unassigned - info only CN 2247 & CN 2320 Devon Adams CN 2248 Shawn [Shaun] Lee CN 2250 Unassigned - info only CN 2252 Unassigned - info only CN 2253 info only CN 2257 Male 12-26-80 - Football/Wrestling before '99 - knew Dylan in Elementary School & Cub Scouts - had contact with Robyn Anderson in class & was friends with her CN 2259 Amy Michelle Evans 9-26-80 CN 2262 Nicholas James Zupancic 7-11-80 CN 2268 Lead Previously Done CN 2277 Jonathan Allen Broden 10-2-80 *** Kim Fox - Sophomore - According to Rocky Mountain News article "Columbine Killer Harris had enemies list of classmates" her name was found on the Shit List - Student Staff Location List says Location Unknown & No Info - Master Index says Threats Schools & Chatfield High School | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:07 pm | |
| Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Colored Paper "REB" - Removed from Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] from Eric's Bookshelf List of Names, Addresses, Phone #'s: CN 1522 Thomas 10-13-82 CN 1580 Brandon E Larson Grade 10 & his address from Jul '97 CN 1875 Ryan Whisenhunt 3-23-81 CN 2490 Duplicate Request - interviewed by George Mumma 5-3-99 CN 2501 "Hades" is Eric Vanwoensel 11-21-81 CN 2509 & CN 2172 "Jimbo" is Jeffrey Hulse CN 2554 "Scoop" is Kevin Starkey [Strakey] Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Phone List - Removed from Eric's Wallet CN 2765 Female - knew Eric from School - Eric called her from time to time - just a friend - has not spent much time with him CN 2769 Male - had pager # for 1.5 years - had no knowledge of ? or Eric CN 2770 Joshua Uncapher CN 2776 Kevin Albert Psychologist Colorado Family Center CN 2783 & CN ? Duplicate CN 2785 Alyssa Sechler CN 2786 Attempted pager # for 3 days - no return calls CN 2792 Blockbuster membership card issued to Kathy Harris CN 2794 Phone # recently reissued to new subscribers CN 2796 & CN ? "?" Littleton CO 80128 - already interviewed by Jackie Gee CN 2798 [Jason Webb] English Teacher - had Eric in his class '98 - provided home phone # at prom to assist transporting students too drunk to drive CN 2802 Deborah Deanna Kennedy CN 2808 & CN 2763 & CN 1088 Sasha Jacobs CN 2811 Attempted pager # for 3 days - no return calls CN 2815 & CN ? "?" Westminster CO 80030 - already interviewed CN 2816 Karen Ann Schott 10-13-80 CN 2818 Upper Edge Security Center business card CN 2819 2 Jeffco Public Library cards CN 2820 AT&T phone card Eric's Computer "Buddy List" CN 3150 "Natz0827" 10744 Cougar Road | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:08 pm | |
| DYLAN KLEBOLD EVIDENCE: Shit List: 36 Entries Phone List: 5 Entries Locker List Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Package of Misc Paperwork [Shit List] - Removed from Dylan's Bedroom CN 1310 Note ISP address Telcal with Concentric Research Corporation CN 1322 Unable to ID "?" without more info CN 1329 Unable to ID "?" without more info CN 1335 Male [Mexican] 3-20-81 - Basketball Team - Associated with Robyn Anderson in class - no classes with Dylan but did with Eric CN 1661 Male [Paul Hofer] 3-6-81 [Brother [Jeffrey Hofer] 5-19-84] - argument/fight with Brian Sargent '97/'98 - did not attend CHS '98/'99 - going to alternative school '99 CN 1664 & CN 1671 Matthew James Friedman 4-8-81 CN 1666 Karen Ann Schott 10-13-80 dates student from Colorado School of Mines CN 1668 Louis W Scileppi 3-9-81 CN 1671 Christopher Lyn Stinson 10-9-80 CN 1723 Ryan "Waldo" Gregory Walda 11-28-80 CN 1725 [Charles] Andy Milam 2-28-80 CN 1726 Jeffrey Dean Marquardt 8-24-81 CN 1800 Dustin Kent Thurmon 10-9-80 CN 1801 Nicholas Baker 8-20-80 CN 1804 & CN 2199 Nicholas J Baumgart 5-14-81 CN 1853 Jonathan Allen Broden 10-2-80 CN 1867 Aaron G Belliston 4-15-81 CN 1960 ? - in classes with Eric/Dylan - saw Eric @ 11:10am wearing black trenchcoat carrying grayish duffel bag CN 2017 Dustin Kent Thurmon 10-9-80 CN 2019 Unable to ID "?" without more info CN 2022 info only CN 2023 info only CN 2025 Michael Dinkel 5-13-81 CN 2027 & CN 4464 Andrew Anderson CN 2029 Male 7-25-80 - had English class with Dylan '98 - had argument with Dylan about spoiled kids - Dylan had seen him on occasion with Robyn Anderson CN 2030 John Reffel CN 2032 Paul D Serverts 7-27-81 CN 2034 Spencer Grange CN 2035 Male - known Dylan since Grade 3 & was with him in accelerated program at Governor Ranch Elementary School - never had problem with Eric/Dylan or their friends CN 2036 Alex [Dudik?] 12-7-80 - didn't know Dylan CN 2037 & CN 3692 Christopher Clary CN 2039 Mr ? CN 2040 Male - played sports until sophmore year - doesn't know why he is on the list CN 2149 Don Klein CN 2153 Unassigned - info only CN 2156 Unassigned - info only CN 2158 Unassigned - info only CN 2159 Christine Mikesell administrator 4-8-51 CN 2161 Mike Paavilainen CN 2162 Duplicate - covered by Sgt Webb 5-4-99 re: lead # ? CN 2163 Kyle Barnes CN 2165 Unable to ID "?" CN 2167 Unable to ID "Gold Dust" CN 2169 Zachary Rissmiller CN 2172 & CN 2509 Jeffrey Hulse CN 2173 Brett O'Neill Grade 12 CN 2177 Male [Mexican] - didn't know Eric/Dylan | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:08 pm | |
| Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Bag with Discs & Misc - Removed from Dylan's Bedroom CN 1739 Copy of Anarchists Cookbook & Student Locker Assignment List @ CHS Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Name/Phone List - Removed from Dylan's Wallet CN 2750 Male 5-6-81 - knew Dylan through Robyn Anderson - no contact with Dylan since Oct '98 - didn't know Eric CN 2755 & CN ? Duplicate CN 2759 & CN ? Duplicate - assigned to Jim Vonderohe CN 2763 & CN 1088 Sasha Jacobs CN 2772 Josh Lallement CN 2773 Tiffany Burk CN 2775 ? - name but no number also appeared on Eric's Phone List - left meesages on pager # for 3 days - no return calls CN 2777 & CN ? & CN ? - already interviewed CN 2780 & CN ? & CN ? Littleton CO 80123 - already interviewed CN 2787 & CN ? & CN ? [Jerad Tomicich? CN 3557] 1-14-81 Littleton CO 80128 - already interviewed CN 2817 monikers - no further follow up required pending ID/clarification nicknames from list CN 2822 David Proctor - played DOOM with Dylan via computer modems - phone # was needed to connect to each other's modems CN 2823 [Chad Laughlin] - known Dylan since Elementary School - had video class with Dylan recently - runs Fantasy Baseball League which Dylan is in - contact was specific to the Fantasy Baseball League CN 2824 Male 5-27-81 Lakewood CO - attends Bear Creek High School - has known Dylan since Elementary School - involved in the Fantasy Baseball League | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:08 pm | |
| Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Locker List CN 2805 - Removed from Dylan's Wallet *Discrepancies could have occurred as a result of students swapping lockers or list may be from '97/'98 & that some of the students kept the same locker from year to year "Spahlinger" - Justin Bryant - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 47/11/3 "Brooks" - incorrect - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 44/4/18 "Chris Morris" - correct - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 31/15/25 "Jay Green" - Jonathan Green[e] - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 43/7/37 "Eric Harris" - correct - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 16/48/30 "Henneke" - incorrect - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 38/40/0 "Nick" - Nicholas Baumgart - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 23/41/21 "Chris Beets" - correct - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 48/36/24 " [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]" - Derek Johnson - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 44/8/26 "Derek" - incorrect - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 35/41/17 "Eric Armstrong" - incorrect - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 8/18/28 "Nate" - Nathan Dykeman - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 49/1/44 "Duane" - incorrect - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 27/41/29 "Kibbz" - Zachary Heckler - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 21/43/7 "Stumpy" - Locker Unassigned - Locker [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Combo 21/43/17 Vehicle Licence # ? CN 3256 - Male 5-7-79 - Independent Study student & was in Tech class with Dylan - didn't drive car to school - car was totalled in accident Nov '98 | |
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Lavitax
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:51 pm | |
| - sororityalpha wrote:
DYLAN KLEBOLD EVIDENCE:
Shit List: 36 Entries Phone List: 5 Entries Locker List
Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Package of Misc Paperwork [Shit List] - Removed from Dylan's Bedroom
CN 1800 Dustin Kent Thurmon 10-9-80
CN 2017 Dustin Kent Thurmon 10-9-80
Why is Dustin Thurmon listed twice on Dylan's Shit list? Dustin is not listed on Eric's Hit List? Also, Mike Dinkel appears to be listed on Dylan's Shit List but not Eric's Hit List. Why is this when we know that Eric had the problem with Dinkel? | |
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sororityalpha Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:12 pm | |
| Possibly a duplicate lead - sometimes that happens in the evidence.
You will find that sometimes Eric/Dylan had people on their lists when they were "looking out for each other". Like if Dylan had a problem with someone Eric would have him on his list and vice-versa. | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:20 pm | |
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- Vehicle Licence # ? CN 3256 - Male 5-7-79 - Independent Study student & was in Tech class with Dylan - didn't drive car to school - car was totalled in accident Nov '98
Is this accurate? _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:41 pm | |
| Yes it is accurate, according to the evidence. | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:49 pm | |
| [quote="sororityalpha"]Yes it is accurate, according to the evidence.[/quote
I never heard of that, in AMR Sue mentions some vandalism but nothing about it being totaled. | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:03 pm | |
| OH wait, the car that was mentioned wasn't Dylan's, was it? _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:19 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:20 pm | |
| Well, I feel foolish now LOL _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:46 am | |
| - sororityalpha wrote:
- Possibly a duplicate lead - sometimes that happens in the evidence.
You will find that sometimes Eric/Dylan had people on their lists when they were "looking out for each other". Like if Dylan had a problem with someone Eric would have him on his list and vice-versa. A duplicate makes sense given how mistake-riddled the 11K is. That's what I'd thought. Hm, while it's understandable that they would add one another's enemies to their lists, it still seems odd Eric didn't also list Dinkel given his dislike. I wonder how much the two reviewed both of their lists together in keeping tally. | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:48 am | |
| - sororityalpha wrote:
Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Colored Paper "REB" - Removed from Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] from Eric's Bookshelf
List of Names, Addresses, Phone #'s: (...) CN 2776 Kevin Albert Psychologist Colorado Family Center (...)
Now this is very interesting. That's the doc that Eric was seeing for over a year iir. _________________ Life is like a tram - you need to know when to get off.
"Bullet Time" - a school shooting film from Poland
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:32 pm | |
| From the list above posted by [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Quote :
- Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] 2 Pieces of Paper [Shit List] - Removed from Item [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] from Eric's Bookshelf
CN 1808 Peggy Dodd - Teacher/Tech Lab/Comp Lab Assistant CN 1824 Ellin Hayes - Teacher/Hall Monitor CN 1874 Unassigned - info only CN 1880 Austin Stephen Eubanks 10-7-81 CN 1884 Ryan McGrath 2-9-81 CN 1887 Kevin James Hofstra 2-24-81 Austin Eubanks. And in his police report (the CR, pg 30- 31), there is a large redacted section. Could this be the investigator discussing with Austin how he thinks he may have ended up on Eric's list? Obviously Austin went through hell, being injured himself, losing his best friend, and witnessing the chaos in the library. It's not surprising that he sought solace in drugs. But, could there be an added level to it? Could he, in some way, blame himself for Corey's death because he was on Eric's list? Whether he knew why he made it or not (e.g., whether he actually had an altercation with Eric or Eric just perceived something that didn't really happen), does he think maybe it was his presence that attracted Dylan and Eric over to his table? Unanswerable stuff like this drives me to distraction. | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:01 pm | |
| - thelmar wrote:
- Unanswerable stuff like this drives me to distraction.
I feel your pain! I sometimes get caught up in little details as well. It seems the less likely I am of getting an answer the more I feel the need to dig for it. |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:29 am | |
| I wonder, those people who "never knew" them or "never had problems with Eric/Dylan just say so because they are afraid to take responsibility | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:27 am | |
| - Vallutaja wrote:
- I wonder, those people who "never knew" them or "never had problems with Eric/Dylan just say so because they are afraid to take responsibility
I think a good percentage of people on E & D lists were likely to downplay any negative interactions they may have had with them. E & D are ultimately responsible for the horror they caused, but I could see how someone who'd had a run in with them would wonder if they shared some of the blame. And therefore, try to deflect it. It must be an exceedingly difficult emotion to deal with. | |
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:21 am | |
| - thelmar wrote:
- Vallutaja wrote:
- I wonder, those people who "never knew" them or "never had problems with Eric/Dylan just say so because they are afraid to take responsibility
I think a good percentage of people on E & D lists were likely to downplay any negative interactions they may have had with them. E & D are ultimately responsible for the horror they caused, but I could see how someone who'd had a run in with them would wonder if they shared some of the blame. And therefore, try to deflect it. It must be an exceedingly difficult emotion to deal with.
This. One time Eric threatened harm to a kid for just bumping into him in the hallway. It was Eric's fault even that they bumped and yet he got angry at him. We don't know all the reasons why Eric stuck people on his lists but he sure was petty _________________ Hold me now I need to feel complete Like I matter to the one I need
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:14 am | |
| - Lizpuff wrote:
- thelmar wrote:
- Vallutaja wrote:
- I wonder, those people who "never knew" them or "never had problems with Eric/Dylan just say so because they are afraid to take responsibility
I think a good percentage of people on E & D lists were likely to downplay any negative interactions they may have had with them. E & D are ultimately responsible for the horror they caused, but I could see how someone who'd had a run in with them would wonder if they shared some of the blame. And therefore, try to deflect it. It must be an exceedingly difficult emotion to deal with.
This. One time Eric threatened harm to a kid for just bumping into him in the hallway. It was Eric's fault even that they bumped and yet he got angry at him. We don't know all the reasons why Eric stuck people on his lists but he sure was petty I think it's also important to remember that no matter who ended up on the list, Eric wanted to kill hundreds of random people and ended up murdering and terrorizing dozens of people he never knew. _________________ "My guns are the only things that haven't stabbed me in the back." -Kip Kinkel
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:19 am | |
| - QuestionMark wrote:
- Lizpuff wrote:
- thelmar wrote:
- Vallutaja wrote:
- I wonder, those people who "never knew" them or "never had problems with Eric/Dylan just say so because they are afraid to take responsibility
I think a good percentage of people on E & D lists were likely to downplay any negative interactions they may have had with them. E & D are ultimately responsible for the horror they caused, but I could see how someone who'd had a run in with them would wonder if they shared some of the blame. And therefore, try to deflect it. It must be an exceedingly difficult emotion to deal with.
This. One time Eric threatened harm to a kid for just bumping into him in the hallway. It was Eric's fault even that they bumped and yet he got angry at him. We don't know all the reasons why Eric stuck people on his lists but he sure was petty I think it's also important to remember that no matter who ended up on the list, Eric wanted to kill hundreds of random people and ended up murdering and terrorizing dozens of people he never knew. Also in a roundabout way Eric has continued his rampage to kill and terrorize for almost 20 years now considering the amount of copycats he has spawned. |
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rayybayy444
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:57 pm | |
| one thing is for sure. Eric wanted to start a "revolution" and "chain reaction" and he did just that. He also wanted his actions to "haunt people" for the rest of their lives, and he achieved that as well. I also wonder about the deaths related to Columbine in the years after ( Such as Anne H. moms suicide) as well as Joe Stairs. He killed himself as well. I wonder if him taking his life had anything to do with Columbine? | |
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slippy123
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:10 am | |
| - rayybayy444 wrote:
- one thing is for sure. Eric wanted to start a "revolution" and "chain reaction" and he did just that. He also wanted his actions to "haunt people" for the rest of their lives, and he achieved that as well. I also wonder about the deaths related to Columbine in the years after ( Such as Anne H. moms suicide) as well as Joe Stairs. He killed himself as well. I wonder if him taking his life had anything to do with Columbine?
From what I've gathered, it seems that Joe's suicide was due to family issues / depression unrelated to the massacre, but don't quote me on that. Joe's sister Amanda Stair frequents these boards, her handle is yumekochan. She has posted many videos giving us a very detailed account of her story being in the library and seeing students being killed first hand. | |
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rayybayy444
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:33 am | |
| Oh wow! Thanks!! I would love to read her account of events that day! I didn’t know Joe’s sister was in the library that day! I wonder if E&D knew?? I’ll have to read her posts about it!!
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:55 am | |
| - rayybayy444 wrote:
- Oh wow! Thanks!!
I would love to read her account of events that day! I didn’t know Joe’s sister was in the library that day! I wonder if E&D knew?? I’ll have to read her posts about it!!
Here is her YouTube channel! [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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rayybayy444
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| Subject: Re: Eric/Dylan's Shit Lists & More UNREDACTED Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:16 am | |
| AWESOME!!!! LOL idk why I get so happy when I find new stuff related to columbine or survivors lol Now ill be lost on her YT page for a good hour | |
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