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Subject: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:37 am
The last time I made a thread like this (Most Pathetic Killers?), most of the answers were referring to the same shooter (Elliot Rodger). I'd like to avoid a repeat of that, so this time I'm excluding the most likely answer; I think most of us agree that Paddock's attack is the most well planned, and there's plenty of discussion about him in his respective threads.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:58 am
Anders.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:19 pm
Definetly Anders Behring Breivik... Making the bomb work, not getting caught by police (even tho the police handled it badly), wearing a police uniform. He even decided for Utöya because he knew that the water was cold and that the kids would have possibly died during the attempted swimming escape...
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:50 pm
Anders Breivik, not because of the killcount but because of the planning and methods he used to amplify his attack such as the drug stimulation, large distraction and building clearing techniques aswell as suitable weaponry.
aside from Breivik it would be Friedrich Leibacher, a Swiss man who constructed a police uniform and entered the Swiss Parliament in Zug without a problem, he was carrying a SIG SG 550 rifle, 4 pistols,remington 870 and a improvised grenade. he opened fire in the hall killing 14 politicians and wounding 18 before detonating the grenade and shortly after killing himself
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:17 am
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aside from Breivik it would be Friedrich Leibacher, a Swiss man who constructed a police uniform and entered the Swiss Parliament in Zug without a problem, he was carrying a SIG SG 550 rifle, 4 pistols,remington 870 and a improvised grenade. he opened fire in the hall killing 14 politicians and wounding 18 before detonating the grenade and shortly after killing himself
Agreed. Cho too. Mainly due to his tactics and him using JHP bullets.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:35 pm
Anders Behring Brievik
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:15 am
Anders. The planning was spectacular (P.S. Randy Stair was the most pathetic, 3 kills! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA)
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:23 am
Brievik for sure, not only was the attack itself well thought out but the reasoning behind the attack was as well, most shooters are edgy kids who just hate people, Brieveik however definitely made Norway a better place.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:01 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I disagree with you, he killed over 70 innocent people who had done nothing directly wrong to him, if he would have targeted someone who had directly done something bad then I would probably understand and agree with you!
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:48 pm
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I disagree with you, he killed over 70 innocent people who had done nothing directly wrong to him, if he would have targeted someone who had directly done something bad then I would probably understand and agree with you!
he tartgeded people of the liberal party so in his mind they were enemies
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:48 pm
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mrbaby56 wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I disagree with you, he killed over 70 innocent people who had done nothing directly wrong to him, if he would have targeted someone who had directly done something bad then I would probably understand and agree with you!
he tartgeded people of the liberal party so in his mind they were enemies
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:31 pm
I'm so sorry for reviving this thread from it's peaceful sleep, but I'd say Feng Wanhai and Jiang Liming, the gunmen in the Zhaodong massacre. Information on them is hard to get, but there's a few details that make them stand out as successful: - Whereas most mass killers want revenge on people who wronged them but end up just killing strangers, they are one of very few who successfully pulled off a hit list. - They emptied a town of nearly all of their percieved enemies and moved on to attack another (such "wandering shootings," such as Woo Bum-Kon and Jakrapanth Thomma, tend to be very deadly) - Robbed at least 3 vehicles and stole a firearm in addition to their own arsenal - Exploited China's then-minimal police force, evading law enforcement for several hours - High kill count (32 victims, not including the gunmen) - Successfully committed suicide, which a surprising number of attackers plan but don't do
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:08 am
Anders Brievik had the world's best planned attack because he pretended to be a police officer so he could ask for a ride in a boat to Utøya Island.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:07 am
Toss-up between Anders Breivik and Vladislav Rosylakov.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:10 am
BehindZeroProxies wrote:
Brievik for sure, not only was the attack itself well thought out but the reasoning behind the attack was as well, most shooters are edgy kids who just hate people, Brieveik however definitely made Norway a better place.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:11 am
James Holmes is definitely up there when you look at how he basically turned an unassuming apartment into a Vietnam War style booby trap.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:18 am
Ignorance is the best form of inhibiting reality, because the reality it ends with the existence of the weak who fear death.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:20 am
Our crazy writer most certainly had the most planned.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:21 am
the most planned is not the one that is known. he is one whose essence is never discovered.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:29 am
Pekka wrote:
Ignorance is the best form of inhibiting reality, because the reality it ends with the existence of the weak who fear death.
What are you even saying?
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:31 am
ColaEnthusiast wrote:
Pekka wrote:
Ignorance is the best form of inhibiting reality, because the reality it ends with the existence of the weak who fear death.
What are you even saying?
What do you think we are here for? natural laws do not correspond to what humans call order, but what they call chaos and madness. Elliot the best planned. so well planned that no one even managed to see the most obvious of his true sexuality and dark nature. these are the most planned.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:33 am
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:47 am
ColaEnthusiast wrote:
James Holmes is definitely up there when you look at how he basically turned an unassuming apartment into a Vietnam War style booby trap.
But would the booby trap actually have worked as planned?
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:48 am
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ColaEnthusiast wrote:
James Holmes is definitely up there when you look at how he basically turned an unassuming apartment into a Vietnam War style booby trap.
But would the booby trap actually have worked as planned?
It was basically wired in a way to do so.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:48 am
Rosie1756 wrote:
ColaEnthusiast wrote:
James Holmes is definitely up there when you look at how he basically turned an unassuming apartment into a Vietnam War style booby trap.
But would the booby trap actually have worked as planned?
No trap works if you are discovered.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:46 pm
ColaEnthusiast wrote:
Rosie1756 wrote:
ColaEnthusiast wrote:
James Holmes is definitely up there when you look at how he basically turned an unassuming apartment into a Vietnam War style booby trap.
But would the booby trap actually have worked as planned?
It was basically wired in a way to do so.
Didn't he basically snitch on himself though about the bombs to the police? I can't remember it's been a while since I extensively researched Aurora (lost some interest in it)
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:19 pm
Engel wrote:
ColaEnthusiast wrote:
Rosie1756 wrote:
ColaEnthusiast wrote:
James Holmes is definitely up there when you look at how he basically turned an unassuming apartment into a Vietnam War style booby trap.
But would the booby trap actually have worked as planned?
It was basically wired in a way to do so.
Didn't he basically snitch on himself though about the bombs to the police? I can't remember it's been a while since I extensively researched Aurora (lost some interest in it)
Correct, thankfully James had the decency to tell the officer that arrested him that there were bombs at the apartment. Otherwise, it would’ve turned absolutely worse in just a few minutes.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:02 pm
Vladislav Roslyakov. His bombs worked, making him probably the most successful Columbine copycat.
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Subject: Re: Best Planned Attack? (Execpt Stephen Paddock) Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:09 pm
Anders because he picked an island so no ones escaping, dressed up as a police officer so people would think that he was there to help (You know he was smirking when people came towards him), makes a bomb to get extra kills. Cho because he chained the doors shut. I would also say James Holmes because he went into the theater like it was a war zone.
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