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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: A Basement Tape Leak. Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:02 am | |
| This past spring the first 10 episodes of Orange is the New Black was leaked by hackers. It was in the news and the network was scrambling for damage control.
So we just had a supposed "farewell video" leak. This is a video that the public at large has been told was destroyed. People have fought tooth and nail that we are never to see the Basement Tapes.
Would a leak like this really be unnoticed with such little coverage?
Say someone had more audio recording like Darrell Scott's and said "screw it, I'm putting their farewell message on youtube, fuck JeffCo" would it be in the news, or quietly taken down?
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:55 am | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- This past spring the first 10 episodes of Orange is the New Black was leaked by hackers. It was in the news and the network was scrambling for damage control.
So we just had a supposed "farewell video" leak. This is a video that the public at large has been told was destroyed. People have fought tooth and nail that we are never to see the Basement Tapes.
Would a leak like this really be unnoticed with such little coverage?
Say someone had more audio recording like Darrell Scott's and said "screw it, I'm putting their farewell message on youtube, fuck JeffCo" would it be in the news, or quietly taken down?
Or would they really care? In all honesty, it would likely be taken down silently. Of course, I expect ther are some out there who would create a mirror of it, and save it. _________________ "My guns are the only things that haven't stabbed me in the back." -Kip Kinkel
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DooMRebel
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:03 am | |
| I've heard the leak and it matches perfectly with the transcript. But this doesn't mean it's real. _________________ universe
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InsaneIntruder
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:56 am | |
| Can someone post the link to it here? | |
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:03 pm | |
| My hearing is awful I cannot hear it even with my good headphones. Here is the link to the original thread InsaneIntruder [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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DooMRebel
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:38 pm | |
| You should read transcript and listen to the leak at the same time and you will understand what is being said _________________ universe
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InsaneIntruder
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:13 am | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- My hearing is awful I cannot hear it even with my good headphones.
Here is the link to the original thread InsaneIntruder
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
I found it before you sent it but still thank you. Honestly CVA already made a video debunking it. | |
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DooMRebel
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:43 am | |
| I think that the leak is fake _________________ universe
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InsaneIntruder
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:19 am | |
| - DooMRebel wrote:
- I think that the leak is fake
Yeah. Their voices do sound the same so I think it's fake. And why would it be in quality that bad when the only real leak was in way better quality? | |
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DooMRebel
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:30 am | |
| Is it known who leaked the first real basement tape audio? _________________ universe
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InsaneIntruder
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:41 am | |
| - DooMRebel wrote:
- Is it known who leaked the first real basement tape audio?
I think it was Rachel Scott's dad? Someone correct me if I'm wrong. | |
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DooMRebel
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:15 pm | |
| - InsaneIntruder wrote:
- DooMRebel wrote:
- Is it known who leaked the first real basement tape audio?
I think it was Rachel Scott's dad? Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I was thinking of him too but I'm not 100% sure _________________ universe
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Lateral
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:20 pm | |
| Yeah. He wanted this audio to be leaked because he assumed Eric and Dylan referenced his daughter but it was acctually another Rachel. | |
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Littlelo
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:40 pm | |
| I don't believe the leaked audio is real, but I really wish it was. I'm very skeptical because of how quiet the voices are, and how similar "Eric" and "Dylan" sound to each other. Eric's voice just seems off to me. | |
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:52 pm | |
| - Littlelo wrote:
- I don't believe the leaked audio is real, but I really wish it was. I'm very skeptical because of how quiet the voices are, and how similar "Eric" and "Dylan" sound to each other. Eric's voice just seems off to me.
Right there with you! I don't believe it is real either, but damnit I wish it was. |
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Littlelo
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:54 pm | |
| If you think about it- anyone who wanted to create a fake "leak" would do exactly what this person has done... VERY low volume so it's difficult to analyze, following the transcripts word for word, and not disclosing to anyone where the audio came from. | |
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:59 pm | |
| - Littlelo wrote:
- If you think about it- anyone who wanted to create a fake "leak" would do exactly what this person has done... VERY low volume so it's difficult to analyze, following the transcripts word for word, and not disclosing to anyone where the audio came from.
Exactly! It would be all to easy to "leak" anything. But surly the person would know that this audio would be researched and went over extensively to see if it was legit. So this possibly could just be a troll trying to stir the Columbine Community up. |
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:00 pm | |
| The word for word reading also sets off red flags. There's no hesitation or inflection, ums or ohs. _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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Littlelo
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:02 pm | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- The word for word reading also sets off red flags. There's no hesitation or inflection, ums or ohs.
Exactly. When you compare the transcripts to the ACTUAL leaked footage about "Rachel and Jen", it doesn't match up completely and there is hesitation and overlapping. I don't believe TBT transcripts we have are word for word, but are probably pretty close. | |
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DooMRebel
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:08 pm | |
| I don't understand why they didn't released the Goodbye video. Out of all basement tapes I would like to see only this one. _________________ universe
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Littlelo
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:18 pm | |
| - DooMRebel wrote:
- I don't understand why they didn't released the Goodbye video. Out of all basement tapes I would like to see only this one.
SAME. That and the video of Eric alone in his car, supposedly tearing up. I don't see how releasing their journals was OK but not the tapes... | |
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DooMRebel
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:20 pm | |
| Releasing their journals was like releasing basement tapes. Both Eric and Dylan vent and rant about killing others and blowing up places in journals just like in basement tapes. But according to JeffCo releasing basement tapes would inspire other shooters... _________________ universe
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:23 pm | |
| It doesn't make sense to me either. Things that were released (journals, student films) and leaked (suicide photos) humanized Eric and Dylan a lot more than I think they expected.
_________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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Littlelo
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:55 pm | |
| I think TBT would make E&D look more immature than anything, from what we've heard from people who saw them.
I just want to see their dynamic when it's just the two of them. Every other video we have of them includes other people, so you know they couldn't say all the things they wanted to say. | |
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:07 pm | |
| I would also love to see the dynamic between them we don't have a lot of stuff with them interacting. Only small snippets from the films and that's it.
Sue even said they were acting like idiots. I'm not sure how that would cause anymore contagion than we already have. _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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Littlelo
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:10 pm | |
| Do you think if Sue really wanted to know for sure if the tapes were destroyed, she would be given that information? Anyone involved with the case should have a right to know, right? I wonder if any of the victims or families have tried to inquire about them | |
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: A Basement Tape Leak. Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:34 am | |
| - Littlelo wrote:
- Do you think if Sue really wanted to know for sure if the tapes were destroyed, she would be given that information? Anyone involved with the case should have a right to know, right? I wonder if any of the victims or families have tried to inquire about them
That's a great question! I wonder how many other families have seen them? Rachel's dad did, I THINK the Browns demanded to see them (even though really.. they don't have any reason to IMHO) but I wonder if any of the other families did. I also wonder if Byron was allowed to see them but declined? | |
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