Do you ever feel sorry for E&D?

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Yeah, you are right. But then again I don't believe the world will ever be able to abandon their subjective perspectives. People will always like the people they can relate to more than the people they cant relate to, even if both are losers.

Haha did your ex say stuff like woopdy do, woo new pen and yey doggie? Just curious.
Or was it just the anger problems? The world sure has a lot of guys with anger problems.
Not as many guys who would get excited about his new pen unfortunately :/

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Yeah, you are right. But then again I don't believe the world will ever be able to abandon their subjective perspectives. People will always like the people they can relate to more than the people they cant relate to, even if both are losers.

Haha did your ex say stuff like woopdy do, woo new pen and yey doggie? Just curious.
Or was it just the anger problems? The world sure has a lot of guys with anger problems.
Not as many guys who would get excited about his new pen unfortunately :/

It was the anger issues, the inflated ego, and yeah he used to spaz out over getting those black and white notebooks and finding bullet casings haha. The trippiest thing aside from him looking and acting like Eric was that his best friend looked a lot like Dylan as well. Craziest shit hahah.

QuestionMark wrote:

Pho3nix wrote:

I thought Lanza had a pretty strong fanbase? I know a lot of people find him creepy as shit. 

If he does have fans I haven't heard of many. The only one that comes to mind is a fan of Randy who might've been a deep cover troll, so take that with a grain of salt.

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We can only imagine the sort of cringe worthy content E&D might have produced were social media then what it is now.

Eric would have have probably been a 4chan troll and Dylan some emo edgelord.

I bet Eric would've also been a member of Encyclopedia Dramatica, possibly Kiwi Farms too. Just like William Atchison.

probably they would been youtubers) or definitely a counter-strike players as well

Jea wrote:

probably they would been youtubers) or definitely a counter-strike players as well

I don't think they would be YouTubers. It doesn't seem like something that would appeal to them.

Counter-Strike I could see though.

QuestionMark wrote:

Jea wrote:

probably they would been youtubers) or definitely a counter-strike players as well

I don't think they would be YouTubers. It doesn't seem like something that would appeal to them.

Counter-Strike I could see though.

well, they do like to make videos and was very creative.

Jea wrote:

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Jea wrote:

probably they would been youtubers) or definitely a counter-strike players as well

I don't think they would be YouTubers. It doesn't seem like something that would appeal to them.

Counter-Strike I could see though.

well, they do like to make videos and was very creative.

Perhaps it would be a side hobby. Certainly not a primary one though.

I think the boys would make gameplay videos on YouTube

Semperfidelis wrote:

We can only imagine the sort of cringe worthy content E&D might have produced were social media then what it is now.

Eric would have have probably been a 4chan troll and Dylan some emo edgelord.

Maybe their legacy is protected by the context of the seemingly simple world of the 1990s.

Agreed! Eric probably would have been a keyboard warrior. He had all the signs of a internet Troll.

Yes, just for the fact that they couldn't seem to see far enough ahead. I know they thought they did and wanted to unleash the hate anyway. To not even make it past high school is kind of sad. I was completely detached well before my senior year and could barely be bothered to go, nevermind try to attack it.

All the time.

I do not feel sorry for killers like these. They decided and chose their fates. They now both reside in Hell, tormented forever for their foolish actions. They destroyed many lives and families and started a terrible string of copycat killers plaguing this nation. They are not to be idolized in any way, shape or form. They chose the devils path and it cost many their lives and them, their eternity. They were cold blooded killers who are now recieving the just judgement of God.....forever....

Sporttster wrote:

I do not feel sorry for killers like these. They decided and chose their fates. They now both reside in Hell, tormented forever for their foolish actions. They destroyed many lives and families and started a terrible string of copycat killers plaguing this nation. They are not to be idolized in any way, shape or form. They chose the devils path and it cost many their lives and them, their eternity. They were cold blooded killers who are now recieving the just judgement of God.....forever....

Personally I think if their punishment is to be tortured forever without any hope of escaping it, then I'd feel more sorry for them than ever before.

In that respect, they are to be pitied yes. But in the respect that they did what they did, no. They made a very conscious decision to end the lives of as many people as they could. They're reaping what they sowed and they alone decided this...

Sporttster wrote:

In that respect, they are to be pitied yes. But in the respect that they did what they did, no. They made a very conscious decision to end the lives of as many people as they could. They're reaping what they sowed and they alone decided this...

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What scares me is even on this site I'm seeing kids almost idolizing these two killers. It scares and saddens me. The devil is real, folks. He is real and his goal is to kill, steal and destroy. There was alot of that in Columbine. He pushed these two kids to murder, stole the lives from their victims and destroyed a lot of families and started a string of similar crimes in our schools and universities throughout this land. These two are NOT heroes or to be looked at in any positive light whatsoever. They are murderers. They both now reside in hell, forever under torment, in the land of darkness and hate and torment and nothing good, basically. Weeping and gnashing of teeth forever. This is not something to emulate or follow, AT all. It's disgusting, vile, evil and wicked and you will be under the judgement of Almighty God if even you even think to do such a vile thing. Do not emulate the wicked, but follow the good!

in another post you say that the devil made them kill but in this post you say that they chose to kill. make up your mind and stop contradicting yourself.

No contradiction whatsoever. The devil most definately influenced them to do this, without a doubt. But they have to pull the trigger. Not hard to understand....

Sporttster wrote:

No contradiction whatsoever. The devil most definately influenced them to do this, without a doubt. But they have to pull the trigger. Not hard to understand....

But if the devil influenced them how much choice did they really have in the matter?

Sporttster wrote:

No contradiction whatsoever. The devil most definately influenced them to do this, without a doubt. But they have to pull the trigger. Not hard to understand....

"definately"


i have dyslexia and even i spell better then that. also shouldnt it be sportster and not sporttster?

I do, they knew what they were doing was terrible, they are not innocent but I do feel like people let them down. Like with Dylan's paper, the teacher called his parents. Gave it to the counselor.. I think that was a pivotal moment. Almost like a "Hey, someone stop me." Kinda thing. Just my opinion. I think their boss should have done something when they brought the pipe bomb to work. There were signs.. everyone failed those boys. They failed each other. I can't help but wonder if they didn't feel like they could discuss openly their reservations without some kind of fear. Fear of the other turning on you, the fear of them telling someone and getting caught with all of the evidence etc etc

I tend to agree about the silent cold feet thing. They could have killed everyone in that library. They didn't. Why not? I think a part of them regretted it. Seemed like they enjoyed wrecking the school more than killing people.

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Sporttster wrote:

No contradiction whatsoever. The devil most definately influenced them to do this, without a doubt. But they have to pull the trigger. Not hard to understand....

As an atheist, the devil didn't make them do anything. They made the decision to do it.

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eldigato wrote:

Sporttster wrote:

No contradiction whatsoever. The devil most definately influenced them to do this, without a doubt. But they have to pull the trigger. Not hard to understand....

As an atheist, the devil didn't make them do anything. They made the decision to do it.

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yeah but expect sporttster to get triggered over that. he literally contradicted himself and tried to blow it off

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But if the devil influenced them how much choice did they really have in the matter?

The same amount of choice any one of us has when confronted with temptation to do evil. You either give in or you don't......they not only gave in but were joyful in the destruction they caused. Now they're facing the judgement of God forever. I'm sure they aren't smiling today.....

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But if the devil influenced them how much choice did they really have in the matter?

The same amount of choice any one of us has when confronted with temptation to do evil. You either give in or you don't......they not only gave in but were joyful in the destruction they caused. Now they're facing the judgement of God forever. I'm sure they aren't smiling today.....

there is no proof of god

Sporttster wrote:

Now they're facing the judgement of God forever. I'm sure they aren't smiling today.....

I don't mean to get this far off topic, but if God is going to punish someone for their sins literally forever, and in a horrible, torturous way, then to me that's far worse then anything Eric and Dylan did while alive.

I think they are in purgatory. They were messed up children. Though I’m agnostic and not religious

None of us know what’s beyond for us. However, I won’t spread hate and say someone is being tortured etc.

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well i have something interesting to that :
since it was snowing that day after Es&Ds bodies were taken out of school
Isaiah 1:18
"Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.

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well i have something interesting to  that :
since it was snowing that day after Es&Ds bodies were taken out of school
Isaiah 1:18
"Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.

It doesn't snow after every sin though. So, your point?

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well i have something interesting to  that :
since it was snowing that day after Es&Ds bodies were taken out of school
Isaiah 1:18
"Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.

It doesn't snow after every sin though. So, your point?

Maybe it does and that is why winter is so depressing, it's either that or the lack of D-vitamins... who knows.

They extinguished any empathy I could ever feel for them when they decided to kill innocent kids who never taunted or bullied them in their lives.

I agree! I think going into nbk the thought of destroying the school was a major factor! And had the bombs went off the library would’ve been brought down on commons! So when bombs didn’t go off they had to know they weren’t going to destroy the school. One reason I have sympathy for them is had they just waited and graduated they would’ve figured out that high school isn’t really that big of a deal compared to the rest of your life!! I find that so sad, they were almost out of the place they hated!!

I feel bad for them as young men. But the moment Eric said "Go, go!" ... it was the point of no return and the decision to go from teenagers with their whole freakin lives ahead of them to killers is unforgivable. No one has the right to take another living human beings life away.

Society failed Dylan and Eric. The "help" Eric received was not anywhere near what he needed. I seriously wished Dylan would have gotten some help to, but again, it may not have been good enough. But I think they were long gone long before they started shooting at the school. Something switched their brains into putting everything into NBK and they ran with the idea. I think in the final months there was a lot of serious doubt, and questioning of their character to themselves...but when outside influences (constant bullying) fuel your rage, that part of yourself can take over easily with a mentally unhealthy person. Especially when you share these experiences and feelings with your best friend.

I kind of find the whole thing ironic... I mean, you get picked on your whole middle school/high school life... you plan this huge bombing of your school and it fails( you made the bombs that morning! What did you think was going to happen?). You break your nose while killing someone cause you were to dumb to think the guns recoil wont hit you and it's all because you hadn't even had a year of experience with a gun. Then you try to shoot at the bombs so they will go off and they still don't. And then when you off yourself, that one molotov cocktail on the table gets put out by sprinklers. It's almost laughable. Their plans for mass chaos and destruction failed miserably... so not only were you losers in life- you were losers in death. I'm sure they felt like absolute shit... this was suppose to be huge, but in the end even though 13 people were murdered by Eric and Dylan, it wasn't what it was suppose to be. And thank goodness for that..

munchkinphone wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

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well i have something interesting to  that :
since it was snowing that day after Es&Ds bodies were taken out of school
Isaiah 1:18
"Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.

It doesn't snow after every sin though. So, your point?

Maybe it does and that is why winter is so depressing, it's either that or the lack of D-vitamins... who knows.

Doesn't tend to snow a lot in the summer, and God knows that there's plenty of sin to go around during the warmer seasons.

I feel sorry for E&D because the negative atmosphere at Columbine high school forced them to take action.

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Sporttster wrote:

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Personally I think if their punishment is to be tortured forever without any hope of escaping it, then I'd feel more sorry for them than ever before.

I agree

Yeah I do, I feel more empathy for Dylan because I relate to him more.

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I feel sorry for E&D because the negative atmosphere at Columbine high school forced them to take action.

I don't believe it forced them to shoot up their school. Never forget they had a choice. It may have factored into them doing it, but the choice was ultimately their own.