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| Subject: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:13 pm | |
| As of Tuesday, January 30 - one week from today - it will have been twenty years since the van break-in.
By this time next year, we will be preparing to mark the twentieth anniversary of NBK.
Time marches on. Eric, Dylan, and 12 of their victims have been dead longer than they were alive. (It will be many years before Dave Sanders reaches that milestone.) _________________ Why does anyone do anything?
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:16 pm | |
| Ive been thinking of my pithy January incident post for that day... _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:19 pm | |
| Always thinking about the point of no return that gonna brought all those people that day to school and bound their life and deaths forever. Yeah, mby it was a van... | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:46 pm | |
| - Jea wrote:
- Always thinking about the point of no return that gonna brought all those people that day to school and bound their life and deaths forever. Yeah, mby it was a van...
I think it was more than just breaking into a van because they were bored. I think it was probably a trust thing for NBK. It really solidified their friendship and trust. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:59 pm | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- Jea wrote:
- Always thinking about the point of no return that gonna brought all those people that day to school and bound their life and deaths forever. Yeah, mby it was a van...
I think it was more than just breaking into a van because they were bored. I think it was probably a trust thing for NBK. It really solidified their friendship and trust. I don't necessarily believe the break in its-self solidified their bond, but getting caught and the repercussions that followed likely did. That's when they realized they were in this shit together. EVEN though Eric did try to place the blame all on Dylan. The little snitch! |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:02 pm | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- Jea wrote:
- Always thinking about the point of no return that gonna brought all those people that day to school and bound their life and deaths forever. Yeah, mby it was a van...
I think it was more than just breaking into a van because they were bored. I think it was probably a trust thing for NBK. It really solidified their friendship and trust. Sure there was a several reasons why they done what they done... Sometimes I try to imagine how they started all that preparation, it's like you seating at home full of hate and talking about how good will be blow away the school and kill all students, and next moment you are buying a guns and making pipe bombs. Paradoxical moment is that they finished their life in place they hated so much, it was a natural selection to clean world from people include themselves. _________________ "I'm having an old friend for dinner." (с)The Silence of the Lambs, 1991
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:09 pm | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- Jea wrote:
- Always thinking about the point of no return that gonna brought all those people that day to school and bound their life and deaths forever. Yeah, mby it was a van...
I think it was more than just breaking into a van because they were bored. I think it was probably a trust thing for NBK. It really solidified their friendship and trust. I don't necessarily believe the break in its-self solidified their bond, but getting caught and the repercussions that followed likely did. That's when they realized they were in this shit together.
EVEN though Eric did try to place the blame all on Dylan. The little snitch! You have a good point. Dylan’s “evil” karmic revenge... not only did Dylan call Eric just his good friend BUT people blame most of the massacre on Eric | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:18 pm | |
| - Jea wrote:
Paradoxical moment is that they finished their life in place they hated so much, it was a natural selection to clean world from people include themselves. I can agree to that. Eric pretty much thought the human race in general was lost and not worth fighting for. That included himself. |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:32 pm | |
| It's also going to be the anniversary of my birth. Happy birthday to me I guess. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:08 pm | |
| - <<-reBKa->> wrote:
- It's also going to be the anniversary of my birth.
Happy birthday to me I guess. You can also celebrate like Zach Heckler that night and go to a church function and argue with someone? | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:10 pm | |
| Also, this interview was from earlier that day Jan 30, 1998. Pretty weird coincidence. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:19 pm | |
| - 1891 wrote:
- Also, this interview was from earlier that day Jan 30, 1998.
Pretty weird coincidence.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Yes!! He was so disarming and hand... sorry Later that day, the downward spiral begins | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:36 pm | |
| I wonder if the van is still out there driving or got turned into soda cans
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:37 pm | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- 1891 wrote:
- Also, this interview was from earlier that day Jan 30, 1998.
Pretty weird coincidence.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Yes!! He was so disarming and hand... sorry
Later that day, the downward spiral begins I'm always wondering why he didn't want to dress up like that to school, he looks quite cute here. His trench coat scared away all girls. lol. _________________ "I'm having an old friend for dinner." (с)The Silence of the Lambs, 1991
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:42 pm | |
| - Jea wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- 1891 wrote:
- Also, this interview was from earlier that day Jan 30, 1998.
Pretty weird coincidence.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Yes!! He was so disarming and hand... sorry
Later that day, the downward spiral begins I'm always wondering why he didn't want to dress up like that to school, he looks quite cute here. His trench coat scared away all girls. lol.
Yes. Junior year Dylan was quite handsome, that and in the behind blackjack video senior year. He probably did dress like that, he just wore his jacket over it. He wanted to get reactions and cultivate a look. The story about Dylan scaring people came from Judy who said she heard it from Sue... i guess they were at a restaurant and he didn’t take his coat and sunglasses off and he was making people uncomfortable. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:04 pm | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
The story about Dylan scaring people came from Judy who said she heard it from Sue... i guess they were at a restaurant and he didn’t take his coat and sunglasses off and he was making people uncomfortable. It's a teenager protest, i guess. I remember when I was 16, I dressed up like Wednesday Adams, lol. Of course I wasn't so popular, cuz I looked creepy and strange, but it's was an expression of my inside world. Today is much easier to be different, than in late 90. But still, appearances are deceptive, no one can imagine that this cute shy guy can take a gun and kill kids. _________________ "I'm having an old friend for dinner." (с)The Silence of the Lambs, 1991
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:44 pm | |
| - Jea wrote:
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The story about Dylan scaring people came from Judy who said she heard it from Sue... i guess they were at a restaurant and he didn’t take his coat and sunglasses off and he was making people uncomfortable. It's a teenager protest, i guess. I remember when I was 16, I dressed up like Wednesday Adams, lol. Of course I wasn't so popular, cuz I looked creepy and strange, but it's was an expression of my inside world. Today is much easier to be different, than in late 90. But still, appearances are deceptive, no one can imagine that this cute shy guy can take a gun and kill kids. Especially in Littleton at that time, now it is different. When I was there for work I spoke to so many people who were so open and kind etc.... I had a friend in HS who was bullied like me, and she TRIED so hard to fit in but everyone seemed to know that she was just trying and no matter what she wore, she didn't fit in... The cute guy killing people is the exact thing when I saw Eric's picture that day. We are the same age (I'm in my 30's..) and I remember as clear as day coming home from school, news is on, Patrick Ireland is falling out of the window and I'm hearing 4 20 year olds wearing swatzika arm bands are ambushing a high school then they show Eric and Dylan's pictures and I was like "Eric is hot, why did he kill people" then we learn it's a theatre tech guy and a gamer... then the rest is history... sordid past of ScreamingOphelia LOL. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:54 pm | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
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- It's also going to be the anniversary of my birth.
Happy birthday to me I guess. You can also celebrate like Zach Heckler that night and go to a church function and argue with someone? Well it's better than going out and stealing crt computer monitors from a van. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:38 pm | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
Especially in Littleton at that time, now it is different. When I was there for work I spoke to so many people who were so open and kind etc....
I had a friend in HS who was bullied like me, and she TRIED so hard to fit in but everyone seemed to know that she was just trying and no matter what she wore, she didn't fit in...
The cute guy killing people is the exact thing when I saw Eric's picture that day. We are the same age (I'm in my 30's..) and I remember as clear as day coming home from school, news is on, Patrick Ireland is falling out of the window and I'm hearing 4 20 year olds wearing swatzika arm bands are ambushing a high school then they show Eric and Dylan's pictures and I was like "Eric is hot, why did he kill people" then we learn it's a theatre tech guy and a gamer... then the rest is history... sordid past of ScreamingOphelia LOL.
Well, Eric wrote in his diary that he hate how he looks, so mby that why he killed himself so brutally, unfortunately he wasn't self-confident. And I understand him, because sometimes bad response and toxic influence from other people can make you feel frustrated about yourself. But year before massacre he had some hopes for the future. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] _________________ "I'm having an old friend for dinner." (с)The Silence of the Lambs, 1991
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:51 pm | |
| - Jea wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
Especially in Littleton at that time, now it is different. When I was there for work I spoke to so many people who were so open and kind etc....
I had a friend in HS who was bullied like me, and she TRIED so hard to fit in but everyone seemed to know that she was just trying and no matter what she wore, she didn't fit in...
The cute guy killing people is the exact thing when I saw Eric's picture that day. We are the same age (I'm in my 30's..) and I remember as clear as day coming home from school, news is on, Patrick Ireland is falling out of the window and I'm hearing 4 20 year olds wearing swatzika arm bands are ambushing a high school then they show Eric and Dylan's pictures and I was like "Eric is hot, why did he kill people" then we learn it's a theatre tech guy and a gamer... then the rest is history... sordid past of ScreamingOphelia LOL.
Well, Eric wrote in his diary that he hate how he looks, so mby that why he killed himself so brutally, unfortunately he wasn't self-confident. And I understand him, because sometimes bad response and toxic influence from other people can make you feel frustrated about yourself. But year before massacre he had some hopes for the future. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Yea, no matter what people think it boils down to what you think about yourself. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:13 am | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- The story about Dylan scaring people came from Judy who said she heard it from Sue... i guess they were at a restaurant and he didn’t take his coat and sunglasses off and he was making people uncomfortable.
I just can't see Dylan as scary, much less Eric. On the outside they were seemingly normal. All the scary shit was on the inside. But the sunglasses thing would have been very irritating to me. Dylan seemed to hide behind his shades a lot. I have to be making direct eye contact when I am talking to someone in person. It just grates on my nerves if they wont look at me. It makes me feel that I am talking at them instead of to them. I also consider it kind of disrespectful, maybe it is just the way I was raised. |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:31 am | |
| One thing I notice about Eric is, especially compared to Dylan, his handwriting is quite disciplined. Also that comment from the teacher "Me either"...haha.
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:21 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:32 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:24 am | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- Jea wrote:
- Always thinking about the point of no return that gonna brought all those people that day to school and bound their life and deaths forever. Yeah, mby it was a van...
I think it was more than just breaking into a van because they were bored. I think it was probably a trust thing for NBK. It really solidified their friendship and trust. I don't necessarily believe the break in its-self solidified their bond, but getting caught and the repercussions that followed likely did. That's when they realized they were in this shit together.
EVEN though Eric did try to place the blame all on Dylan. The little snitch! You have a good point.
Dylan’s “evil” karmic revenge... not only did Dylan call Eric just his good friend BUT people blame most of the massacre on Eric And the fact Dylan was the real mastermind behind the massacre, not Eric. Revenge indeed. |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:06 am | |
| On this day twenty years ago - Sunday, January 25, 1998 - the Broncos won the Super Bowl. - Quote :
- Columbine student Nate Dykeman told police he had witnessed Eric and Dylan detonating a pipe bomb in January of 1998, the same day that the Denver Broncos won the Super Bowl.
_________________ Why does anyone do anything?
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:06 am | |
| Just a fetus I was then. I can't believe it has been almost two decades. |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:08 am | |
| Can’t believe it’s been so long...
The van incident was a major part in the development of their NBK plans IMO. It also probably brought them closer and made them feel different from their peers. They considered themselves criminals at that point. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:08 am | |
| 20 years today. It's 7 a.m. right now in Denver.
Two whole decades. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:53 pm | |
| 20 Damn years...
What better way to "celebrate" than to listen to Wilder Wein.
Its almost 6PM in Denver. Maybe E&D are already home getting yelled at? | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:36 pm | |
| - haydenschool wrote:
- 20 Damn years...
What better way to "celebrate" than to listen to Wilder Wein.
Its almost 6PM in Denver. Maybe E&D are already home getting yelled at? No, the infamous van break-in happened at around 9:30 and then it was a long night at the Police station and accoring to Sue Klebold's book, they didn't come home until 4 o'clock in the morning. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:39 pm | |
| - 1891 wrote:
- haydenschool wrote:
- 20 Damn years...
What better way to "celebrate" than to listen to Wilder Wein.
Its almost 6PM in Denver. Maybe E&D are already home getting yelled at? No, the infamous van break-in happened at around 9:30 and then it was a long night at the Police station and accoring to Sue Klebold's book, they didn't come home until 4 o'clock in the morning. I didn't know that, ughh blame the Zero Hour documentary error of making the break in during daylight. I really need to read that book! | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:39 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:31 pm | |
| Exactly 20 years ago now...Its around 9:30PM in Denver | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:50 pm | |
| Around what time did they get caught? | |
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| Subject: Re: Jan. 30 is the 20th anniversary of the van break-in Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:04 am | |
| - haydenschool wrote:
- Around what time did they get caught?
Somewhere between 9:40-9:49 | |
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