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Subject: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:55 am
meanwhile in Moscow...
Artyom Iskhakov strangled, stabbed and raped his Moscow student flatmate He had sex with her corpse before eating sandwiches and repeating the act The 19-year-old student gave a horrifying account of his depraved crimes He then hanged himself after finishing his message by asking for forgiveness
Artyom Iskhakov, 19, told Tatiana Strakhova's parents in the appalling online message how her heart was still beating, so he stabbed her and then had sex with her corpse.
He then paused to eat sandwiches, boasting that several hours later he repeated the depraved sex act.
Jealous of his 19-year-old ex-girlfriend's relationship with another man, the talented IT student wrote that his actions were 'terrible - but I did what I wanted'.
He then hanged himself moments after finishing his post by asking forgiveness from his and her parents, and telling them where to find the bodies.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:01 am
his confession was most disturbing thing I ever read if someone is interesting I can translate it btw, he wasn't her bf or ex, he was friendzoned
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:08 am
Any links in english? I have so many questions about this. Where there any mental issues involved here? I would be interested in a translation please.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:39 am
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Any links in english? I have so many questions about this. Where there any mental issues involved here? I would be interested in a translation please.
russian public board are crazy about this case. I found some on English too, but there is alot of false information. This guy had some mental problems, he had a homicidal thoughts, some hidden depression, was disturbed, cut himself and etc (very close to EH, I can say). He went to the doctor by himself cuz had felling that all that was inside his mind is very wrong, but... Also, as in his suicide note he explains that he actually don't want to die at all, but after all he has done he have no other options.
He was in love in this girl a long time ago, and she invite him to share an apartment some moths ago, cuz she couldn't afford this flat by herself. She flirted with him, even kissed, but always said to him that he is just a friend. after she started to flirt with his good friend in January, he became very obsessed and sometimes had plans how he gonna kill her. I'm not protecting this guy btw, but flirting with him, walk in the underpants near him - that not good at all. Of course she didn't knew he was psycho, but...
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:43 am
Jea wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Any links in english? I have so many questions about this. Where there any mental issues involved here? I would be interested in a translation please.
russian public board are crazy about this case. I found some on English too, but there is alot of false information. This guy had some mental problems, he had a homicidal thoughts, some hidden depression, was disturbed, cut himself and etc (very close to EH, I can say). He went to the doctor by himself cuz had felling that all that was inside his mind is very wrong, but... Also, as in his suicide note he explains that he actually don't want to die at all, but after all he has done he have no other options.
He was in love in this girl a long time ago, and she invite him to share an apartment some moths ago, cuz she couldn't afford this flat by herself. She flirted with him, even kissed, but always said to him that he is just a friend. after she started to flirt with his good friend in January, he became very obsessed and sometimes had plans how he gonna kill her. I'm not protecting this guy btw, but flirting with him, walk in the underpants near him - that not good at all. Of course she didn't knew he was psycho, but...
If you can find any English links that aren't completely shit, please post them. All the links I keep finding are saying she was his EX. I'd rather start out reading the truth then having to back track later from all the false info.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:48 am
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Jea wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Any links in english? I have so many questions about this. Where there any mental issues involved here? I would be interested in a translation please.
russian public board are crazy about this case. I found some on English too, but there is alot of false information. This guy had some mental problems, he had a homicidal thoughts, some hidden depression, was disturbed, cut himself and etc (very close to EH, I can say). He went to the doctor by himself cuz had felling that all that was inside his mind is very wrong, but... Also, as in his suicide note he explains that he actually don't want to die at all, but after all he has done he have no other options.
He was in love in this girl a long time ago, and she invite him to share an apartment some moths ago, cuz she couldn't afford this flat by herself. She flirted with him, even kissed, but always said to him that he is just a friend. after she started to flirt with his good friend in January, he became very obsessed and sometimes had plans how he gonna kill her. I'm not protecting this guy btw, but flirting with him, walk in the underpants near him - that not good at all. Of course she didn't knew he was psycho, but...
If you can find any English links that aren't completely shit, please post them. All the links I keep finding are saying she was his EX. I'd rather start out reading the truth then having to back track later from all the false info.
I'm typing his suicide note, that is so crazy.
100% he was friendzoned as hell, according their friends, and her personal diary.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:05 pm
A quote from a news story:
"He wrote: “She’s so cold … just like her feelings for me.”
"He then wrote a message to Tatiana’s parents saying he was “ashamed”, adding: “Forgive me for taking your only child from you.
“I loved her very much. You know, at this very moment I’ve realised what the **** I did. I feel cold and my hands have started shaking even more."
He admitted his disgust at having sex with Tatiana’s corpse, adding: “Now I can do nothing except kill myself.”
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:22 pm
His suicide note (sorry for my English, it's not my mother language) Hi guys, my name is Artyom Iskhakov, and i want to tell what I've have done this night. 22.01.18 3.40AM I killed my flatmate. And fucked her. Twice. Maybe, I will do it again, but her body became cold and smells not so good, and she is not so tight as she was at first time. Why I've done it? I don't know, but I'm tired to listen her fucking stupid explanations, why she is against to have a drink with me, also I;m tired to see how she flirting with my friend and how cool they communicate with each other, and understand that I'm not like them to have a similar relationship with her as they do. I carried this idea from a beginning of January, and in my head I imagined this moment very detailed and colorful. I was totally chocked about myself. absolutely. very very very choked that i have thoughts like that. And then she has surprised me by the fact that she will be rent this flat until the summer! Fuck!
How murder happened? She came home, I was on the kitchen, she went to her room and then I struck her in the face, she fell on the floor. I struck her several times and she started to bleeding and asking to leave. I didn't leave, lol. I started to strangle her. And she begged to leave. In one moment she black out but her heart was still beating. So I decided quickly, before she not get cold, fuck her. When I had finish I released that her heart is still beating, shit, still beating. Then I tried to strangle her again - 0 effect. Than I took knife and cut her throat. I don't know how qualitatively I did it, but there was enough blood. But she still was alive, has a pulse. Than I took the knife and stabbed her in left side between the ribs twice. Than I had a small talk with her friend in messenger from her phone, fucked her once again and started to write this note. people are surprisingly tenacious, or I'm not so physically strong to strangle her. Oh, one moment, I put her tights in her mouth, just not to see the blood and not to hear that strange sounds hers body made. And by the way, I tightened her throat one of the ropes, that I has bought for shibari (*?). So ironically, right? Well, okey, such details are important only to the freaky perverts.
Now I'm gonna write to people, the turn of writing is in no way connected with the importance of people.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:29 pm
Jea wrote:
His suicide note (sorry for my English, it's not my mother language) Hi guys, my name is Artyom Iskhakov, and i want to tell what I've have done this night. 22.01.18 3.40AM I killed my flatmate. And fucked her. Twice. Maybe, I will do it again, but her body became cold and smells not so good, and she is not so tight as she was at first time. Why I've done it? I don't know, but I'm tired to listen her fucking stupid explanations, why she is against to have a drink with me, also I;m tired to see how she flirting with my friend and how cool they communicate with each other, and understand that I'm not like them to have a similar relationship with her as they do. I carried this idea from a beginning of January, and in my head I imagined this moment very detailed and colorful. I was totally chocked about myself. absolutely. very very very choked that i have thoughts like that. And that she has surprised my with the fact that she will be rent this flat until the summer! Fuck!
How murder happened? She came home, I was on the kitchen, she went to her room and that I struck her in the face, she fell on the floor. I struck her several times and she started to bleeding and asking to leave. I didn't leave, lol. I started to strangle her. And she begged to leave. In one moment she back out but her hear was still beating. So I decides quickly, before she not get cold, fuck her. When I had finish I released that her heart is still beating, shit, still beating. Then I tried to struggle her again - 0 effect. Than I took knife and cut her throat. I don't know how qualitatively I did it, but there was enough blood. But she still was alive, has a pulse. Than I took the knife and stabbed her in left side between the ribs twice. Than I have a small talk with her friend in messenger from her phone, fucked her once again and started ti write this note. people are surprisingly tenacious, or I'm not so physically strong to strangle her. Oh, one moment, I put her tights in her mouth, just to not see the blood and not to hear that strange sounds hers body made. And by the way, I tightened her throat one of the ropes, that I has bought for shibari (*?). So ironically, right? Well, okey, such details are important only to the freaky perverts.
Now I'm gonna write to people, the turn of writing is in no way connected with the importance of people.
I'm kind of at a loss for words.... He comes across as very cold, but at the same time it seems like he is trying to justify his actions and blame it on her.
I'm going through the various news reports I could find right now.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:31 pm
the letter IS HUGE, I'm gonna translate it partly, and gonna skip some parts.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:37 pm
His social page archived [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:43 pm
Oh my, I have found his suicide photo and her dead photo (Russian police works as usual ) It;s not allowed to publish it here, so if someone interested PM than
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:55 pm
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:58 pm
Jea wrote:
Oh my, I have found his suicide photo and her dead photo (Russian police works as usual ) It;s not allowed to publish it here, so if someone interested PM than
Can you please send me the photo(s)
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:17 pm
Second part of his suicide note (I'm gonna skip some part for his friends, cuz there is nothing interesting) sister: don't become a stupid cunt, please
michail yuryevitch (psychiatrist): I didn't told you a lot and in some moments I've lied to you. Maybe I shouldn't do that and everything would have turned out differently, pity but what's done is done. You are good psychologist, and I'm glad to knew you.
Artyom Sirgeyevich (*don't know who is he): don't know why you ignored me last times, when I wrote to you, but doesn't matter now. Thanks for giving me the contacts of a psychologist and for the medicine you gave me, these pills made my life easier
Parents; I'm just a disappointing for both of you. I was a drug addict (*he tried some LSD a time ago according his friends), lied all the time and didn't loved you, almost hated you, although you did for me only good, but it's a life and i'm just a such person. you tried to brought me up as a good person, but somewhere in my life I've took a wrong turn. don't blame yourself, please.
Tanya's parents: sorry that I took a life of your only child. I loved her so much. I hope hardly that you will have the strength to survive it somehow. Sorry once again, but I understand it's impossible to forgive that.
Alina (girl): sorry that I fucked your brain with all that talks about Tanya.
For the rest: Sorry about shit I have done to you or whatever... Live your live cool and don't be such a fucking moron as I was.
You know, now I'm realized, what SHIT I have done. I feel cold, my hand are shaking, hehe. My God, shit, I fucked the corpse. And now I have nothing to do except kill myself. Kill someone is very easy, but realize it - no. Now I can check if there is life after death. I want to go sleep and understand what's gonna happen to me after all I've done. I loved her. Loved her with my crazy sick love, but still loved her. Oh yeah, I'm a bit drunk, not so much, but still. Very stupid shit I have done. I'm horrible person. But I have told everyone about my plans, but you didn't believed me. I got crazy about the idea of fuck her so have killed her. Of course it's wasn't a main reason, but the fact that I raped her cold body saying a lot. Maybe i'm mentally sick person. Not "maybe", lol. I want to see what going happen next. She was so happy when she went to Dima. songwriter: "we -maybe" - fucking asshole, after couple of time listening your song person becoming sick, and starts perceive this as a call to action. I writing extremely incoherent nonsense. Also, sorry about all mistakes in text (Jea: I'm sorry too), but I'm so lazy to read it once again. Astin, Vasily, my dears friend, I'm coming. Honestly I don't want to die, because, oh my god, in this fucking world I have still so much to do, but situation went out of control, and I don't want to go to jail, even if I will not go to prison, there is a huge possibility that I'm going to psychiatric hospital, and it's worse. And I don't want life like that. I'm still try to decide how to die: hang myself, cut myself, or count 1-2-3 and stab myself in heart. It's' so difficult to pick. Or maybe I should jump under the train. She have such thin neck. And cool breast. I've told you that I love her? I even didn't live until my 20 years, hehe. My world started to ruin couple of month ago, but I destroyed it completely. Resurrection from ashes - lie. I'm not to trying justify myself. I have done horrible shit, but I done it because I thought it's was right, because i couldn't take it anymore. I could. I'm gonna make some sandwiches and gonna enjoy until I can. I ate. Fucked her once again, shit. I'm going to sleep for couple of hours. I slept.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:25 pm
Funny, how brain starting to find 1000 reasons to live when you want to die. It's so much, oh fuck. She lays there in the room, and I'm sitting here and smile. I'm not sure do I have a chock, strange. First time I have thoughts to kill someone at the grade 5-6 (Jea: in Russia it's a junior school). My friend came to my house, we played in PC games, and when he started to go home, I had an idea that its will be cool to strangle him with PC cord, and drop his body on stairs.
I have lived with my own demons inside me and have tried to fight against it. But lost. I'm a weak person and all this is a pathetic attempts to justify myself, i guess. Now I set free all the thoughts I had in my mind. Last time, I hope. My host service gonna show this message after some time. A bit sad that I didn't earned a 80k rubles payment. And never will earn it. And never gonna watch new videos on youtube. I just want to disappear from this world and look on it from the heaven. She is so cold, hah. Like was her heart towards to me. I just want everything was different. Last two years. I just want we could be together, and I didn't got crazy. Without her stupid husband, and her flirting with my friend. Funny now he is a widower. You know, when I strangle her, I wasn't sorry and had no doubt about it. and this is very exciting. Oh fuck, what is wrong with me and when had all this started. Before tonight I never hit anybody. I regret my decision. almost. I thought , like always cut myself and calm down, but something went wrong. Interesting are you choked about you reading? I would be chocked. My rage have found the way out. final chord. I cant even cry. remarkably, how easy to lose all your humanity. I don't know when the dead body starts to smell, but I hope when all this going to be released, I will be already dead. Too much word "I hope". I want to go sleep again, fuck my hand are shaking. funnily enough, I have done something for work too, are they gonna miss me? I thinking about the chances of normal life after all I have done, if I'm not gonna to kill myself. No chances? Looks like no. In jail I'm not gonna make it. I have no purpose of life anymore. Some time ago I had a dreams to take care about her, but I destroyed all tonight. A good people lost their lovely daughter, and they are such nice parents. They are whom I really feel a little ashamed. I fucking broke all the moral guidelines. Tear almost goes out.
I remember when I was on LSD I've got the point of the crystal purity and beauty of love. And what monster I became. Sorry, but there is no way to atone for my sins. I'm gonna go and kiss Tanya to her cold forehead. She lays there dead and cold, and her fingers no moving. Fuck, what I have done. Fuck, fuck, fuck. I have so much to say, but don't know what to add more, If you ever in your life gonna have a friend who is suffering so much as me, just beat him in the face, and try to explain that this situation in gonna drive to disaster. it's just destroy and rape your mentality. I destroyed happiness of several people and for what? in the end there will be only one emptiness that will swallow me up. I'm curious to see reaction of everybody who is knew us. But i must die. Must. I have a last cigarette. No way back. Just remember something good about me sometimes. I din't knew that all gonna ends up like this. So sad I can't watch TV-series with her again, and talk with her, and hug her.
One again forgive me everyone. No one should blame self and think that you are missed something or whatever, I'm sure no one was expect that I'm capable to do something like this. I have zero emotions. I feel zen. drink and pray that I will be in hell
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:43 pm
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
That is truly one of the most f*ckd up, twisted, things I have read.
I am still digging through the reports I have found on this. I appreciate you translating that out.
Yep, and it's so insane! And it's not good to play with someones feeling, really. I can bring here a song, that how he said "perceive this as a call to action'.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:45 pm
Also, he has write this suicide note partly. And the last chapter shows that he had some remorse. This suicide note it's like to look inside murderer soul, and it's insane.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:19 pm
Jea wrote:
Oh my, I have found his suicide photo and her dead photo (Russian police works as usual ) It;s not allowed to publish it here, so if someone interested PM than
Can i get a copy?
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:24 pm
You had mentioned the girl's diary. Has anything from it been released?
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:26 pm
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:36 pm
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:45 pm
Be careful what are you wish for... Tanya status on vk social page [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:59 pm
Oh wow I only knew a tiny bit about this, thank you for the translation!
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:02 pm
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Be careful what are you wish for... Tanya status on vk social page [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
DAMN! That is eerie as hell...
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:08 pm
The apartment building and door to the room.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:19 pm
DAMN! When he said he was a cutter he wasn't kidding.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:34 pm
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DAMN! :shock: When he said he was a cutter he wasn't kidding.
This made me take a second look, holy shit. I think the neck makes me the most uncomfortable though.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:38 pm
he tried to cut the veins... Sad. Probably they meant to be end their life like this. Somehow the victim is finding a murderer one day.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:42 pm
Kippers wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
DAMN! When he said he was a cutter he wasn't kidding.
This made me take a second look, holy shit. I think the neck makes me the most uncomfortable though.
I am definitely NOT a fan of gore. I already regret taking a peek at the photos.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:46 pm
well, she was a bitchy girl, as I can read. why she had rented an apartment with him, if she was so annoyed about his feelings.
her answer is @ask@ [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Someone asking: where and with who you live? Her answered: on Kurskaya street with one faggot
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:57 pm
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:58 pm
Kippers wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
DAMN! When he said he was a cutter he wasn't kidding.
This made me take a second look, holy shit. I think the neck makes me the most uncomfortable though.
and he was a desperate cutter. such a huge scars, and so many ...
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:18 pm
Jea wrote:
Oh my, I have found his suicide photo and her dead photo (Russian police works as usual )
Is it normal in Russia to release crime scene photos?
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:23 pm
QuestionMark wrote:
Jea wrote:
Oh my, I have found his suicide photo and her dead photo (Russian police works as usual )
Is it normal in Russia to release crime scene photos?
yepp, If Columbine had happen in Russia, all photos of the dead bodies, crime scenes and for sure basement tapes and etc probably was released in couple of weeks.
when in Russia happened insane terrorist attack in nord ost and beslan, horrible not retouched photos was released pretty soon after tragedy.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:29 pm
also there was a documentary TV-show about criminals, on tv at prime time, about serial killers, maniacs and etc, and very often in those documentary movies was showed horrible photos of victims. I was 11, I watched one episode and when I saw how maniac Slivko cutting out a boy foot, GOSH, I had nightmares for weeks.
PS: I'm not from Russia, but I live nearby and we have Russian TV here, so in my childhood I watched it pretty often.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:20 pm
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:10 pm
Jea wrote:
QuestionMark wrote:
Jea wrote:
Oh my, I have found his suicide photo and her dead photo (Russian police works as usual )
Is it normal in Russia to release crime scene photos?
yepp, If Columbine had happen in Russia, all photos of the dead bodies, crime scenes and for sure basement tapes and etc probably was released in couple of weeks.
when in Russia happened insane terrorist attack in nord ost and beslan, horrible not retouched photos was released pretty soon after tragedy.
Man that's bizarre. I don't know if that's good or bad in the long term, but at least people like us can pour over the little details of a crime.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:45 pm
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:59 am
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:03 am
sororityalpha wrote:
mordupen wrote:
Death photos are not permitted on the forum and have been removed.
Can I get a link to The Anarchists Cookbook there buddy?
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:41 am
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:52 am
According to their close friends, couple months ago, she had slept with Artyom's close friend, and than they laughing at Artyom together and sent him a messages where they described how good sex was in details.
Oh my, it's a new dimension of bulling or what?
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:01 pm
Jea wrote:
According to their close friends, couple months ago, she had slept with Artyom's close friend, and than they laughing at Artyom together and sent him a messages where they described how good sex was in details.
Oh my, it's a new dimension of bulling or what?
I'm not sure I would classify it as a new form of bullying, but it is just a really shitty thing to do to someone. A lot of people like to play these kinds of games. But look what her little games cost her in the end. Playing with someones emotions is like playing with fire, sooner or later you will get burned.
I am still trying to read all the info I have found on this, but if that is true then it is very messed up. From what I have read so far it is quite clear that she cared very little about him or his feelings. So she just used him to be able to afford the apartment they lived in.
If it is indeed true that she knew he had feelings for her yet would still rub having sex with someone else in his face then that is very low down and dirty in my opinion.
I have really never understood people who do things like that. If you are not romantically interested in someone then tell them in a way where there is no doubt. Also do not string them along just because you know you can. She obviously didn't care about him, but probably liked the attention she got from him.
Although it in no way, shape, or form could EVER be used to justify what he did to her. He should have left and stopped following her around like a lost dog. Instead he decided to lash out and kill her. I think this would fall into the "If I can't have you, then no one can" crime of passion category.
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Subject: Re: student murdered and raped his student flatmate and commited suicide Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:47 pm
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Jea wrote:
According to their close friends, couple months ago, she had slept with Artyom's close friend, and than they laughing at Artyom together and sent him a messages where they described how good sex was in details.
Oh my, it's a new dimension of bulling or what?
I'm not sure I would classify it as a new form of bullying, but it is just a really shitty thing to do to someone. A lot of people like to play these kinds of games. But look what her little games cost her in the end. Playing with someones emotions is like playing with fire, sooner or later you will get burned.
I am still trying to read all the info I have found on this, but if that is true then it is very messed up. From what I have read so far it is quite clear that she cared very little about him or his feelings. So she just used him to be able to afford the apartment they lived in.
If it is indeed true that she knew he had feelings for her yet would still rub having sex with someone else in his face then that is very low down and dirty in my opinion.
I have really never understood people who do things like that. If you are not romantically interested in someone then tell them in a way where there is no doubt. Also do not string them along just because you know you can. She obviously didn't care about him, but probably liked the attention she got from him.
Although it in no way, shape, or form could EVER be used to justify what he did to her. He should have left and stopped following her around like a lost dog. Instead he decided to lash out and kill her. I think this would fall into the "If I can't have you, then no one can" crime of passion category.
Did you saw her late Instagram? How I can see she liked rudeness and violence, and probably she was a cutter too (cuts, bruises, even cigarette scars), not so desperate as Artyom, but still. I think it's a story when a victim and her murderer find each other. There is too much conflicting information, but they did date couple of weeks a years before and she dumped him, but than I can't understand his obsess about sex with her, mby during the weeks they dated they didn't had any intimate relationship that why he was so obsess. There is screenshots of their talks, and she was so cruel and rude with him. And I'm very surprised about myself but I feel so sorry about him, this girl ruined his life, but he was not against it.
It's eternal suffering when you love someone so badly, and you're not good enough for this person, but somehow subject of your love is keep you very close all the time. Really, it's a hell.
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