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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:17 pm
Kevin Loibl
*Overall, he was wearing a flannel shirt, jeans, and a baseball cap. He carried a Glock 26 (pictured) and a Glock 19 (not pictured although the magazine pictures are mags for the 19), the bullets he used were Hornaday Critical Defense hollow points (for both the 19 & 26). He also carried a boot knife.
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:36 pm
Robert Bowers
The three handguns he allegedly carried with him, according to his social media, one was a Glock 31, another a Glock 32 and the third a Glock 33. He also used a AR15 with a leather strap but I was unable to find any pictures of it. Interestingly enough, all the handguns he used were chambered in .357SIG which is a fairly uncommon cartridge.
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:26 am
Mh_12rm_66 wrote:
Robert Bowers
The three handguns he allegedly carried with him, according to his social media, one was a Glock 31, another a Glock 32 and the third a Glock 33. He also used a AR15 with a leather strap but I was unable to find any pictures of it. Interestingly enough, all the handguns he used were chambered in .357SIG which is a fairly uncommon cartridge.
I'm surprised 357 SIG hasn't been used more, since it's pretty much meant to be 357 Magnum except for pistols.
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:25 am
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Mh_12rm_66 wrote:
Robert Bowers
The three handguns he allegedly carried with him, according to his social media, one was a Glock 31, another a Glock 32 and the third a Glock 33. He also used a AR15 with a leather strap but I was unable to find any pictures of it. Interestingly enough, all the handguns he used were chambered in .357SIG which is a fairly uncommon cartridge.
I'm surprised 357 SIG hasn't been used more, since it's pretty much meant to be 357 Magnum except for pistols.
It's pretty costly and it's ballistics aren't too different than .40 S&W other than it having a flatter shooting profile (better for longer range) but that wouldn't matter much in a mass shooting since most victims are usually shot from pretty close range. It's also produces a pretty large muzzle flash which can be a bit disorienting for the shooter too. Honestly a 9/40/45 could all do the same job as the 357 for much less of the cost given that shot placement and accuracy are the biggest factor in whether or not a bullet actually kills/seriously injures a target.
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:15 pm
STK wrote:
Wait, how did Zawahri acquire a modern day pistol? I thought the fact he couldn't easily acquire weapons like that was the whole reason he built his own AR-15, used an old school revolver, and built zip guns?
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:33 pm
InsaneIntruder wrote:
STK wrote:
Wait, how did Zawahri acquire a modern day pistol? I thought the fact he couldn't easily acquire weapons like that was the whole reason he built his own AR-15, used an old school revolver, and built zip guns?
It could've been an airsoft gun.
Why would he bring an airsoft gun with him?
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:44 pm
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
STK wrote:
Wait, how did Zawahri acquire a modern day pistol? I thought the fact he couldn't easily acquire weapons like that was the whole reason he built his own AR-15, used an old school revolver, and built zip guns?
It could've been an airsoft gun.
Why would he bring an airsoft gun with him?
I don't think he brought it with him, it was probably just in his house.
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:00 pm
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
STK wrote:
Wait, how did Zawahri acquire a modern day pistol? I thought the fact he couldn't easily acquire weapons like that was the whole reason he built his own AR-15, used an old school revolver, and built zip guns?
It could've been an airsoft gun.
Why would he bring an airsoft gun with him?
I don't think he brought it with him, it was probably just in his house.
He burnt his house down so I doubt that. The police probably wouldn't of took a pic if it wasn't real.
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:06 pm
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
STK wrote:
Wait, how did Zawahri acquire a modern day pistol? I thought the fact he couldn't easily acquire weapons like that was the whole reason he built his own AR-15, used an old school revolver, and built zip guns?
It could've been an airsoft gun.
Why would he bring an airsoft gun with him?
I don't think he brought it with him, it was probably just in his house.
He burnt his house down so I doubt that. The police probably wouldn't of took a pic if it wasn't real.
He probably didn't bring his zip guns yet they took pictures of those. Also the police took a picture of Adam Lanza's airsoft gun.
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:26 pm
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
STK wrote:
Wait, how did Zawahri acquire a modern day pistol? I thought the fact he couldn't easily acquire weapons like that was the whole reason he built his own AR-15, used an old school revolver, and built zip guns?
It could've been an airsoft gun.
Why would he bring an airsoft gun with him?
I don't think he brought it with him, it was probably just in his house.
He burnt his house down so I doubt that. The police probably wouldn't of took a pic if it wasn't real.
He probably didn't bring his zip guns yet they took pictures of those. Also the police took a picture of Adam Lanza's airsoft gun.
Adam didn't burn his house down though did he. He most likely got the gun illegally or was owned by a family member.
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:36 pm
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
STK wrote:
Wait, how did Zawahri acquire a modern day pistol? I thought the fact he couldn't easily acquire weapons like that was the whole reason he built his own AR-15, used an old school revolver, and built zip guns?
It could've been an airsoft gun.
Why would he bring an airsoft gun with him?
I don't think he brought it with him, it was probably just in his house.
He burnt his house down so I doubt that. The police probably wouldn't of took a pic if it wasn't real.
He probably didn't bring his zip guns yet they took pictures of those. Also the police took a picture of Adam Lanza's airsoft gun.
Adam didn't burn his house down though did he. He most likely got the gun illegally or was owned by a family member.
Maybe it survived the house getting set on fire. Also why wouldn't he use it if it was a real gun that he had access to?
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:42 pm
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
STK wrote:
Wait, how did Zawahri acquire a modern day pistol? I thought the fact he couldn't easily acquire weapons like that was the whole reason he built his own AR-15, used an old school revolver, and built zip guns?
It could've been an airsoft gun.
Why would he bring an airsoft gun with him?
I don't think he brought it with him, it was probably just in his house.
He burnt his house down so I doubt that. The police probably wouldn't of took a pic if it wasn't real.
He probably didn't bring his zip guns yet they took pictures of those. Also the police took a picture of Adam Lanza's airsoft gun.
Adam didn't burn his house down though did he. He most likely got the gun illegally or was owned by a family member.
Maybe it survived the house getting set on fire. Also why wouldn't he use it if it was a real gun that he had access to?
Maybe, although I'm pretty sure it would signs of being burned. Maybe he didn't get the chance? I'm pretty sure he only ever used his AR-15.
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:18 pm
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
STK wrote:
Wait, how did Zawahri acquire a modern day pistol? I thought the fact he couldn't easily acquire weapons like that was the whole reason he built his own AR-15, used an old school revolver, and built zip guns?
It could've been an airsoft gun.
Why would he bring an airsoft gun with him?
I don't think he brought it with him, it was probably just in his house.
He burnt his house down so I doubt that. The police probably wouldn't of took a pic if it wasn't real.
He probably didn't bring his zip guns yet they took pictures of those. Also the police took a picture of Adam Lanza's airsoft gun.
Adam didn't burn his house down though did he. He most likely got the gun illegally or was owned by a family member.
Maybe it survived the house getting set on fire. Also why wouldn't he use it if it was a real gun that he had access to?
Maybe, although I'm pretty sure it would signs of being burned. Maybe he didn't get the chance? I'm pretty sure he only ever used his AR-15.
I looked on Wikipedia and found 2 things.
Wikipedia wrote:
Searching his home, police found replica weapons and illegal zip guns.
Wikipedia wrote:
He was armed with an AR-15-type semiautomatic rifle, a .44 1858 Remington model cap-and-ball muzzleloading revolver, and an additional upper receiver for the rifle.
Doesn't mention anything about him carrying the Colt pistol.
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:24 pm
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
STK wrote:
Wait, how did Zawahri acquire a modern day pistol? I thought the fact he couldn't easily acquire weapons like that was the whole reason he built his own AR-15, used an old school revolver, and built zip guns?
It could've been an airsoft gun.
Why would he bring an airsoft gun with him?
I don't think he brought it with him, it was probably just in his house.
He burnt his house down so I doubt that. The police probably wouldn't of took a pic if it wasn't real.
He probably didn't bring his zip guns yet they took pictures of those. Also the police took a picture of Adam Lanza's airsoft gun.
Adam didn't burn his house down though did he. He most likely got the gun illegally or was owned by a family member.
Maybe it survived the house getting set on fire. Also why wouldn't he use it if it was a real gun that he had access to?
Maybe, although I'm pretty sure it would signs of being burned. Maybe he didn't get the chance? I'm pretty sure he only ever used his AR-15.
I looked on Wikipedia and found 2 things.
Wikipedia wrote:
Searching his home, police found replica weapons and illegal zip guns.
Wikipedia wrote:
He was armed with an AR-15-type semiautomatic rifle, a .44 1858 Remington model cap-and-ball muzzleloading revolver, and an additional upper receiver for the rifle.
Doesn't mention anything about him carrying the Colt pistol.
Ah I guess it wasn't a real gun then.
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:59 pm
Nikolas Cruz's M&P-15 Sport II Rifle, magazines, and rifle bag:
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:12 pm
I find it interesting when shooters carve, write or draw things on their weapons. As @Tommy QTR commented in another thread, Anders Breivik did it. So did Aaron Alexis (gun), Patrick Purdy (gun and magazines), the "three musketeers (knife), Eric Harris (knife), Nikolas Cruz (magazines), and probably many more I don't know. Do you know others?
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:27 pm
Neah wrote:
I find it interesting when shooters carve, write or draw things on their weapons. As [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] commented in another thread, Anders Breivik did it. So did Aaron Alexis (gun), Patrick Purdy (gun and magazines), the "three musketeers (knife), Eric Harris (knife), Nikolas Cruz (magazines), and probably many more I don't know. Do you know others?
Randy Stair carved "Rachel" and "Mckenzie" onto his shotguns.
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:13 pm
Neah wrote:
I find it interesting when shooters carve, write or draw things on their weapons. As @Tommy QTR commented in another thread, Anders Breivik did it. So did Aaron Alexis (gun), Patrick Purdy (gun and magazines), the "three musketeers (knife), Eric Harris (knife), Nikolas Cruz (magazines), and probably many more I don't know. Do you know others?
Nikolas Cruz also carved swastikas into the stock of one of his Mossberg shotguns (not used in the shooting though).
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:12 pm
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:07 am
Political Assassins:
Charles Guiteau :
Leon Czolgosz:
John Wilkes Booth:
Gavrilo Princip :
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:45 am
Euler Fernando
Spoiler:
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Subject: Re: Photo's of mass murderer's weapons Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:35 pm
Martin Peyerl? (found in some german article, is possibly this is the weapons that he used, since it matchs since he used a revolver, a ruger-mini 14, a shotgun and a lever action rifle, but I am not sure)