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PostSubject: E&D's Friends?   E&D's Friends? Icon_minitimeThu Sep 12, 2013 3:32 pm

I found this on tumblr and thought it was pretty interesting. Is this a collage of E&D's closest friends? Would anybody mind identifying each person? I know who Brooks and Nate are, but I'm not very clear on the rest. TIA.

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PostSubject: Re: E&D's Friends?   E&D's Friends? Icon_minitimeThu Sep 12, 2013 5:29 pm

Ok, Devon Adams was Zack Hecklers girlfriend and Zack was Dylans best friend until he got together with Devon. Devon was also a friend of Dylan.

Robyn Anderson is the girl who went with Eric and Dylan to gun show. And she was the girl who went to Prom with Dylan.

Chris Morris was in the Trench Coat Mafia. He was a friend of Eric and Dylan. But I think he was closer to Eric.

Erik Veik helped Eric and Dylan with some Videos.

And Kim Carlin was a co-worker, if I am not wrong. And she was girl who Eric mention in his journal.

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PostSubject: Re: E&D's Friends?   E&D's Friends? Icon_minitimeThu Sep 12, 2013 6:00 pm

Is it Erik Veik who appears with them on the Radioactive clothing video?
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PostSubject: Re: E&D's Friends?   E&D's Friends? Icon_minitimeThu Sep 12, 2013 7:00 pm

deelightful wrote:
Is it Erik Veik who appears with them on the Radioactive clothing video?
Yes, Erik V. and Mike V.

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PostSubject: Re: E&D's Friends?   E&D's Friends? Icon_minitimeSun Sep 15, 2013 3:10 am

Cool, I didn't know Nick was a friend of them both.
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PostSubject: Re: E&D's Friends?   E&D's Friends? Icon_minitimeSat Oct 26, 2013 5:21 pm

Who is Nick Baumgaut? He isn't in the ' associates ' section of the 11K?Question Rolling Eyes scratch Question
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PostSubject: Re: E&D's Friends?   E&D's Friends? Icon_minitimeSat Oct 26, 2013 7:25 pm

Eric Jackson is the one who says he'd like ketchup with his Cini'mini's. A lot of people think it was Eric Harris, but it was actually Eric Jackson.

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PostSubject: Re: E&D's Friends?   E&D's Friends? Icon_minitimeSat Oct 26, 2013 9:37 pm

Nick was a friend of them, but not really close at the time of the massacre. He was also the prom date of Rachel Scott, who was killed.
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PostSubject: Re: E&D's Friends?   E&D's Friends? Icon_minitimeSat Oct 26, 2013 11:56 pm

Nate met them in middle school, right? Who did he meet first though?
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PostSubject: Re: E&D's Friends?   E&D's Friends? Icon_minitimeSun Oct 27, 2013 12:36 pm

I knew that Nate met Eric first, if i remember right it was in spanish class.
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PostSubject: Re: E&D's Friends?   E&D's Friends? Icon_minitimeSun Oct 27, 2013 5:19 pm

Here is a bit of info regarding Nathan Alden Dykeman. At 11:20am on the day of the massacre ,Nathan was leaving Columbine. As he reached the car park and got inside his truck ,he saw Eric walking from the junior parking lot to school. Nathan saw Eric carrying a small bag. They did not make contact with each over. Nathan went home for lunch and came back to school and was met by the police barricades. He then went back home. As the news reports came out about the incident ,Nathan quickly figured out that the gunmen were E&D. (Checkout page 80 of 234 pages in the 11K section of Harris and Klebold Associates.) At home Nathan sat beside the phone ,figuring that the police would want to speak to him ,they never did contact him. Inside this time frame Nathan had several conversations with Dylan's dad. Nathan denied any prior knowledge of what occurred at the school.(N) Nathan decided to voluntarily appear at the Denver office of the FBI (4/21/99) Nathan advised that he believed he knew how E&D had acquired some of the guns they used in the shooting. N stated that he saw DK give at least $100 in $20 bills to Phil Duran around the end of January. N at first believed that this money changed hands for drugs ,but that DK later told him it was for a shotgun. The transaction occurred at the back of Black Jack Pizza which they all worked at. Duran also worked there. N advised that these guns appeared in a video that EH had made of he and his friends and their guns. N assumed that the police already had a copy of this 8mm cassette containing the film footage. N advised that he had not been completely truthful with the investigating agents! N advised that he had not told everything he knew to this point ,because he was afraid he would get arrested and blamed for what happened at Columbine. N stated that he knew that E&D had been experimenting with black powder and pipe bombs for over a year. N watched as E&D blew up a bomb in a culvert between Ken Caryl and Chatfield Reservoir. N advised that E&D told him about blowing up a bunch of rocks at Wadsworth and Deer Creek Canyon with a pipe bomb. This occurred during the Broncos 1st win in the super bowl last year(98) N advised that one of these explosions may be related to a neighborhood dispute that EH was involved in. N stated that he saw several pipe bombs at EH house on several occasions. N said that EH took him into his parents bedroom closet and showed him a pipe bomb which his parents had confiscated from his room. EH related to N his fascination with the fact that they could make a fuse burn precisely at an inch per second. N was aware that E&D had been stealing computer parts from a room in the school. E&D had acquired a key to this locked room full of computer parts ,and had been stealing from there. N stated that DK had stolen an old laptop from this room ,but that DK's dad found out and made him give it back. N advised that Chris Morris may be able to provide more information about E&D's recent activities because he had been closer to them in the last month or two. NATHAN STATED HE BELIEVED ONE OF THE FACTOR'S WHICH CAUSED E&D TO ATTACK THE SCHOOL WAS THAT EH COULD NOT FIND A DATE FOR THE PROM! N stated that he and several friends attempted to find a date for EH but were unsuccessful. EH had in the past had several girlfriends ,and was competent and able to deal with women and relationships. DK was pretty shy around girls. To be concluded....


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PostSubject: Re: E&D's Friends?   E&D's Friends? Icon_minitimeSun Oct 27, 2013 6:45 pm

Nate also failed his lie detector's test when he told police he knew nothing about Dylan and Eric's plans for April 20th.

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PostSubject: Re: E&D's Friends?   E&D's Friends? Icon_minitimeSun Oct 27, 2013 7:11 pm

Jenn wrote:
Nate also failed his lie detector's test when he told police he knew nothing about Dylan and Eric's plans for April 20th.
Hi Jenn ,Nathan's lie detector test found that he had been deceptive regarding these 2 questions -Q1-Did you help Dylan and Eric yesterday. A=NO / Q2-Did you help plan what E&D did yesterday? A=NO. Nate was ' deceptive ' because he didn't want to tell the police about his knowledge of E&D's pipe bombs and firearms ,because he thought he would get blamed for the massace.
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rik75 wrote:
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Nate also failed his lie detector's test when he told police he knew nothing about Dylan and Eric's plans for April 20th.
Hi Jenn ,Nathan's lie detector test found that he had been deceptive regarding these 2 questions -Q1-Did you help Dylan and Eric yesterday. A=NO / Q2-Did you help plan what E&D did yesterday? A=NO. Nate was ' deceptive ' because he didn't want to tell the police about his knowledge of E&D's pipe bombs and firearms ,because he thought he would get blamed for the massace.
I suppose that is possible. But that question was "did you HELP them" and he said "no" and that came back as a lie.

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Jenn wrote:
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Jenn wrote:
Nate also failed his lie detector's test when he told police he knew nothing about Dylan and Eric's plans for April 20th.
Hi Jenn ,Nathan's lie detector test found that he had been deceptive regarding these 2 questions -Q1-Did you help Dylan and Eric yesterday. A=NO / Q2-Did you help plan what E&D did yesterday? A=NO. Nate was ' deceptive ' because he didn't want to tell the police about his knowledge of E&D's pipe bombs and firearms ,because he thought he would get blamed for the massace.
I suppose that is possible. But that question was "did you HELP them" and he said "no" and that came back as a lie.
Hi Jenn ,does ' deceptive ' mean that Nathan was lying? Or does it mean that Nathan was ' sort of ' lying? There may be a fine line between the two. This is what the examiner stated : " It is the opinion of the examiner that ND was deceptive when responding to these relevant questions." IO stated : " When confronted with his deceptive responses ND admitted he was withholding information from the investigators. ND said he had not been completely truthful because he was afraid that he would be arrested for not reporting this information earlier ( information regarding ND knew E&D had firearms and explosives )ND told the IO this information after he had been told the findings of the lie detector test. Jenn ,have a look at page 89 of 324 pages in the 11K section of E&D's Associates.
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rik75 wrote:
Jenn wrote:
rik75 wrote:
Jenn wrote:
Nate also failed his lie detector's test when he told police he knew nothing about Dylan and Eric's plans for April 20th.
Hi Jenn ,Nathan's lie detector test found that he had been deceptive regarding these 2 questions -Q1-Did you help Dylan and Eric yesterday. A=NO / Q2-Did you help plan what E&D did yesterday? A=NO. Nate was ' deceptive ' because he didn't want to tell the police about his knowledge of E&D's pipe bombs and firearms ,because he thought he would get blamed for the massace.
I suppose that is possible. But that question was "did you HELP them" and he said "no" and that came back as a lie.
Hi Jenn ,does ' deceptive ' mean that Nathan was lying? Or does it mean that Nathan was ' sort of ' lying? There may be a fine line between the two. This is what the examiner stated : " It is the opinion of the examiner that ND was deceptive when responding to these relevant questions." IO stated : " When confronted with his deceptive responses ND admitted he was withholding information from the investigators. ND said he had not been completely truthful because he was afraid that he would be arrested for not reporting this information earlier ( information regarding ND knew E&D had firearms and explosives )ND told the IO this information after he had been told the findings of the lie detector test. Jenn ,have a look at page 89 of 324 pages in the 11K section of E&D's Associates.
There's no difference between "deceptive lying" and "sort of lying". If you are prepared to lie in a police interview, you're lying either way.
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I found this on tumblr and thought it was pretty interesting. Is this a collage of E&D's closest friends? Would anybody mind identifying each person? I know who Brooks and Nate are, but I'm not very clear on the rest. TIA.

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Here is a little bit more info regarding Nathan and his movements on 4/20/99. IO stated : " N stated he was at school on the day of the shooting ,but left just before it actually started. He stated he always goes home for lunch and remembered leaving at approximately 11:20am. He stated he does not eat lunch everyday with E&D. He stated he goes to his house. He stated he only has a couple of minutes to eat and he has to get back to school. N stated he left through the west doors of the school and walked down the dirt path next to school. N stated he did not see anyone wearing a trench coat throughout the morning ,nor did he see anyone outside the west doors (E&D had not arrived their yet) N stated as he was driving out of the parking lot he saw E walking from the area of the junior parking lot ,towards the south cafeteria doors. He stated that E was wearing a black trench coat and was carrying a small black bag in his hand. He stated that E had the small bag before in school and it contained his CD walkman and other regular possessions. He stated he did not speak to E and that E was alone. N stated he did not see D (D hadn't arrived yet) N left school for lunch and on returning he came upon police road blocks at Columbine and Pierce and again at Pierce and Walker. He stated it was approximately 11:40am and he saw school kids being routed out of the area. N stated he saw Jen HARMON and he asked her what was going on. J stated 2 kids in trench coats were shooting up the school. N stated he did not want to believe it was E&H ,but he thought it might be. He stated that both of them had been acting strange for the last few months ,but D had been making future plans to move to Phoenix and attend school ,not to shoot up the school. N stated he returned home and called D's FATHER. N stated that D's father had no idea what was going on at the school. D's father told N something like " OH MY GOD!!!" and he left the phone to see if D's coat was in the house. D's father returned to the phone and stated that D's coat was not there. N stated that D's dad became extremely upset and N began to cry while talking to the reporting agent. N stated he could not believe that D had something to do with the shooting and E must have " Had Something On Him " to cause him to participate. He could not believe that D had shot himself. N stated he could not believe D could have kept his secret and N felt he should have done something to help D. N was asked about his knowledge of Brooks BROWN ,Chris MORRIS and Robert PERRY. N stated that CM was probably E's best friend ,but did not know if CM knew about the shooting. N stated that Brooks Brown was never a part of the group and is a compulsive liar. N was asked if he had ever dyed his hair blond or knew anyone in school as tall as him ( N is 6ft 4 inches ) with dyed blond " Punk Hair ". N stated he never dyed his hair and the only kid that tall that has recently dyed his hair blond is Brooks BROWN. N stated that BB would often change his hair. N stated no one he knows likes BB. N stated Robert Perry was a weird guy in school and none of previously mentioned people hung out with him. He stated Perry was strange. N was asked who " La VIDA X " was and he stated it was a screen name that he or D may have used. He stated that E had a nickname for everyone and N's was " Devil MAN ". N stated he thought it was stupid and E was the only one that used it. N was asked if he had ever sent any threatening Email and he stated he was really mad With Devon ADAMS and may have sent her some bad Email. N could not remember what it said ,but stated that he was mad at her because she was saying things to get D in trouble. Devon ADAMS is Zack HECKLERS girlfriend. N stated he has never been on a "Rebel MISSION" ,and he does not know what it is. He thinks " NBK " stands for natural born killers. He stated " NBK " is a movie title of a film and it was one of E's favorites.
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PostSubject: Re: E&D's Friends?   E&D's Friends? Icon_minitimeTue Oct 29, 2013 6:26 am

This group picture of the graduating seniors of '99 has been posted before on this forum but it might serve to identify friends and other significant people:


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Can you help identify certain people?

Top left corner we can recognize Eric, Dylan holding Robyn around the neck, Brooks in front of Eric, Chris to the right of Brooks.

Is it Devon to the right of Chris?

And who is the girl rolling her eyes up, is that Jen?

Who else is there on this picture, any other friends or some of the victims that you can identify?


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Yea. Nate Dykeman on the top row, all the way over to the right in the gray t-shirt.

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And also that Is Zack Heckler next to Brooks, not Chris Morris and Devon Adams isn't in this picture because she was in 11th grade.

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Can not identify any of the victims...
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Can not identify any of the victims...
None of the victims appears in the picture, at least to my knowledge. Maybe some of the injured people?
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Can not identify any of the victims...
None of the victims appears in the picture, at least to my knowledge. Maybe some of the injured people?
Doesn't it look like half of the photo is missing? Maybe the victims were in the other half of the photo?

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Who is the guy sat in front of Brooks Brown?  Long hair and looks very unhappy. He looks like a young version of MEATLOAF. I like MEATLOAF. " I will do anything for love...But i WON'T DO THAT"


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Do you see the 2nd girl on the right of Dylan? Look to her right and you can see someone has been deleted from the pic. There is a big gap in there.
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Can not identify any of the victims...
None of the victims appears in the picture, at least to my knowledge. Maybe some of the injured people?
Doesn't it look like half of the photo is missing? Maybe the victims were in the other half of the photo?
Yeah, I also heard that this is just the half of the picture.
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I just looked it up on google images and there doesn't seem to be a picture anywhere that shows everyone Question
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