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Subject: Mass murderers who spared people Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:16 am
Just thought to compile a list of mass murderers who "spared" people during their massacres. I know the definition of being spared is up for debate, how I see it is that a person who the mass murderer could've easily killed if they wanted to but either decided against it or moved onto bigger targets.
Eric Harris & Dylan Klebold: Brooks Brown, John Savage, Bree Pasquale, Valeen Schnurr and Evan Todd (Probably forgetting alot of others).
Anders Breivik: 11 year son of Trond Berntsen(One of Ander's first victims on Utøya) and Adrian Pracon.
Robert Steinhäuser: Rainer Heise.
Nikolas Cruz: Chris McKenna.
Mutsuo Toi: Apparently spared a family amid way during his massacre.
Christopher Harper-Mercer: Spared by person, also gave them several papers and a thumb drive.
Dimitrious Pagourtzis: Spared some people that he liked and some others so his "story can be told".
Michael Ryan: Susan Godfrey's (his first victim) children, also reported to have shouted at children playing on his street to get inside before he started shooting on South View and Fairview Road.
Charles Whitman: Cheryl Botts and Don Walden.
John Samir Zawahri: Spared a 41-year-old woman who he forced to drive across town towards Santa Monica College campus.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:34 am
Dylann Roof spared a woman named Polly Sheppard. He asked here 'Did I shoot you yet?' to which she replied 'No'. Dylann then said 'You're going to tell the story.'
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:44 am
Derrick Bird: Told a family of four who offered him assistance when his tyre deflated to leave.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:04 pm
Dylan klebold spared a friend named Timothy in the hallways, he also spared some kid named Aaron under a table
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:09 pm
Martin Bryant was said to spare somebody, although this is unconfirmed. One of the CMR suspects could have easily targeted someone who had suffered torment before, but for some reason he didn't.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:59 pm
Ahmed Ibragimov mostly those who were Chechens in his rampage, and only killed Russians.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:12 am
UncontinuedProcess wrote:
Eric Harris & Dylan Klebold: Brooks Brown, John Savage, Bree Pasquale, Valeen Schnurr and Evan Todd (Probably forgetting alot of others).
You want to get really technical about things you could also count every person they saw but didn't shoot at.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:25 pm
Pekka Eric Auvinen spared A student's mother during the start of the shooting
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:34 pm
eyutytuheu wrote:
Dylann Roof spared a woman named Polly Sheppard. He asked here 'Did I shoot you yet?' to which she replied 'No'. Dylann then said 'You're going to tell the story.'
I believe more in his own explanation, which is that he didn't shoot her because she looked at him in the eyes.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:17 pm
Neah wrote:
eyutytuheu wrote:
Dylann Roof spared a woman named Polly Sheppard. He asked here 'Did I shoot you yet?' to which she replied 'No'. Dylann then said 'You're going to tell the story.'
I believe more in his own explanation, which is that he didn't shoot her because she looked at him in the eyes.
This reminds me that James Holmes said he spared someone hiding in-between a couple of seats for much the same reason.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:03 pm
Randy "King of Cringe" Stair - Kristan Newell
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:09 am
QuestionMark wrote:
UncontinuedProcess wrote:
Eric Harris & Dylan Klebold: Brooks Brown, John Savage, Bree Pasquale, Valeen Schnurr and Evan Todd (Probably forgetting alot of others).
You want to get really technical about things you could also count every person they saw but didn't shoot at.
You could but that'll take forever plus the people, thought the ones I originally listed were basically face to face with E&D during the massacre and are more well known to have been spared by them.
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Neah wrote:
eyutytuheu wrote:
Dylann Roof spared a woman named Polly Sheppard. He asked here 'Did I shoot you yet?' to which she replied 'No'. Dylann then said 'You're going to tell the story.'
I believe more in his own explanation, which is that he didn't shoot her because she looked at him in the eyes.
This reminds me that James Holmes said he spared someone hiding in-between a couple of seats for much the same reason.
not just by looking at Holmes in the eyes but weirdly enough smiling at him which even James Holmes thought was confusing as hell.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:42 am
Apparently one of the Suzano shooters spared a canteen worker:
"The person who had contact with the shooter was the canteen worker. She was behind a refrigerator and said the shooter entered the room. She was praying and begged for the shooter not to kill her. The shooter passed his hand in the worker's head and said he was going to do nothing with her and exited. She saw him reloading his firearm."
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:28 pm
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Apparently one of the Suzano shooters spared a canteen worker:
"The person who had contact with the shooter was the canteen worker. She was behind a refrigerator and said the shooter entered the room. She was praying and begged for the shooter not to kill her. The shooter passed his hand in the worker's head and said he was going to do nothing with her and exited. She saw him reloading his firearm."
They also spared the sister of the third person involved in the massacre that aided them in planning.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:56 pm
Dylann Roof spared a woman named Polly Sheppard.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:21 pm
The Charlie Hebdo shooters spared a woman because she was a woman.
Here is Wolinski's wife writing about it in her book "Darling I'm going to Charlie":
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:20 pm
William Atchison spared everyone except two students and himself.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:51 pm
Anton Lundin Petterson spared a lot of people during his rampage. He even notoriously took a pic with two of them (after he had already mortally wounded one victim).
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:30 pm
Kip Kinkel spared a student who knew him as he walked into the school, telling him to get out of there because something bad was gonna happen
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:59 pm
Dylann Roof, the AME Church Shooter spared Polly Sheppard, who was in the church during the shooting (obviously) after he asked her if he shot her yet, to which she said no. After she replied he said something along the lines of "I'll leave you here to tell the story."
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:53 pm
Jason Dalton spared a bunch of people. He even gave them a ride in his Uber.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:13 pm
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Pekka Eric Auvinen spared A student's mother during the start of the shooting
He also entered a classroom full of students and only fired two shots, one aimed at a TV and the other at a window.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:56 am
As David Sonboly finished loading his Glock 17 in the bathroom of the Mcdonalds he shoot up he was suprised by a young boy walking in on him. Instead of shooting him tho he just pointed his pistol on him and said "Peng" before walking past him to the table with his first 5 victims. Im not sure if he just did that to not draw attention to himself so earlie or maybe because he actually didnt want to kill anyone so young but i would consider him to have spared the child.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:05 am
George Hennard spared a mother and daughter
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:19 am
David Katz spared the person he lost to.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:20 am
The 2017 London Bridge Attackers spared an unknown man. The unknown man even got into a conversation with Rachid Redouane.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:10 pm
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Yep and it's kind of odd because he was so obsessed with infamy. Four murders as opposed to three would have gone a long way towards that. We'll never know why he didn't kill her. Maybe he saw that she wasn't aware the shooting was underway because of the headphones/earphones she was listening to music on, and he figured he could move on and kill the others or shoot at stuff and then come back for her and by the time he came back she had heard the shots and hid.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:08 pm
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:15 pm
The 2019 Dyke Industries stabber, Antwann Brown (failed mass killer) stabbed 5 people and told one woman “I’ll spare you this time”.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:08 am
The Driver who drove Kretschmer arround didnt get killed by him,so i guess this count as "sparing". Lanza didnt kill the Girl who was hiding in the Bathroom in Room 8. Edit: I guess that Lanza didnt even know that the Girl was alive After he shot so many children in Room 8,so he doesnt count.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:35 pm
One of the Charlie Hebdo shooters spared Sigolène Vinson because she was a woman and told her to convert to Islam.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:38 pm
Albert Wong spared the lives of all veterans at the Yountville Veterans Home before he killed 3 clinicians and himself.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:23 am
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:19 am
Omar Thornton spared two handicapped employees.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:32 am
He spares people everyday that he leaves his house and doesn't lose his temper. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:01 pm
Chris Harper Mercer spared one student's life so he(the student) could deliver Mercer's package to the police.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:43 pm
Gilbert Twigg spared a group of boys before he went on his rampage because he "had no desire to hurt them".
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:53 am
Marc Lepine spared all the males in the class. Jon Romano passed Mr. Talowsky by because he liked him. Tim Kretschmer threatened the person whose car he hijacked but did not hurt him. Anthony "T.J." Solomon shot low so he would only injure, not kill. Sulejmen Talovic seems to have spared someone, from the official report. Can't be certain he just didn't see her, though: I can only imagine how high stress a shooting must be from everyone's perspective. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:36 am
Nathan Chiasson: Spared a man who said he was Muslim and said a prayer. Anders Breivik: Encountered a civilian holding a bunch of roses when walking away from his car bomb. He decided he was not a threat and let him live, but only after considering whether he should kill him or not.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:06 pm
Micheal Ryan: Dorothy Smith("Ryan was chastised by 77-year-old Dorothy Smith for "scaring everybody to death" for making noise, although he did not shoot her.")
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:00 pm
Bai Ningyang spared the life of a child who’s parents he knew during the Shiguan Kindergarten gasoline attack.He let him leave the room before he lit the gasoline he had poured onto the floor of the room,which would cause the death of 12 children.It’s quite a brutal yet fascinating story.It’s a shame there isn’t much out there about it but thats China for you.
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:31 pm
Payton Gendron: Spared a white victim and apologized for shooting him. Tobias Rathjen: Spared a Turk who had blue eyes. Jennifer San Marco: Forced an employee to give her his identification badge at gunpoint and then told him to leave. Jake Davison: Spared a passing resident who he told "nothing to worry about, mate."
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:41 am
Luci wrote:
Micheal Ryan: Dorothy Smith("Ryan was chastised by 77-year-old Dorothy Smith for "scaring everybody to death" for making noise, although he did not shoot her.")
An elderly woman tells the man with a Kalashnikov and who had just killed a dozen people that “he’s scaring” people, what could get more British?
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Subject: Re: Mass murderers who spared people Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:27 pm
Wellington Menezes de Oliveira: According to witnesses, he selectively shot women in fatal areas and boys in non-lethal areas, one kid He said that after being wounded, Wellington approached him and said "calm down, fat boy, I'm not going to kill you", then he left and let him live, another girl who survived pretended to be dead, Wellington approached her and said, "you're very pretty, aren't you dead yet? Well now you will be", then shot her several times in the face but she survived