U.S Mail Bombs

For those not familiar with the subject:
US Mail Bombs

From what I have gathered I can say two things for sure. 1) These bombs were not made to harm anyone, but rather be a threat and a message. 2) Who or whatever is behind this is clearly organised.

I saw an interview with the man who caught the Unabomber and he pointed out that these were only threats and clearly not actual bombs, I will find it again and link it. Another thing I noticed was the package they keep showing has no postmark so it was never out for delivery which means it never left Florida or was hand delivered. Very strange as to hand deliver it the suspect would be on camera and we would already know about it. If it never left Florida then it was rejected before even being screened which is highly suspect.

So what do you all think? Who dun it?

CNN bomb found to be harmless

CNN bomb had white powder and was delivered by courier

No postmark, delivered by courier, list of recipients

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Biden's bomb had postage due on it.

I want to say this was all the work of a far-left organizer trying to false-flag these as right-wing attempted bombings, but it's probably not the case.

So not a Unabomber copycat then?

QuestionMark wrote:

I want to say this was all the work of a far-left organizer trying to false-flag these as right-wing attempted bombings, but it's probably not the case.

Well it probably is the far-right, considering how notorious they are for bombings.

Tommy QTR wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

I want to say this was all the work of a far-left organizer trying to false-flag these as right-wing attempted bombings, but it's probably not the case.

Well it probably is the far-right, considering how notorious they are for bombings.

From what I've seen right now it is either Antifa, Proud Boys, or an inside job. All the people they are going after are Democrats associated with Obama. Both groups there hated Obama. Am inside job would be the obvious thing as the Republicans have gained a lot of ground leading up to the midterms and this would reverse those gains. Too early to know but it has to be an organised group

mrhyde wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

I want to say this was all the work of a far-left organizer trying to false-flag these as right-wing attempted bombings, but it's probably not the case.

Well it probably is the far-right, considering how notorious they are for bombings.

From what I've seen right now it is either Antifa, Proud Boys, or an inside job. All the people they are going after are Democrats associated with Obama. Both groups there hated Obama. Am inside job would be the obvious thing as the Republicans have gained a lot of ground leading up to the midterms and this would reverse those gains. Too early to know but it has to be an organised group

I think it's most likely some fringe far-right group, as Antifa don't bomb people and it would be suicide for the proud boys as they would be classed as a terrorist organisation. It being an inside job is conspiracy level nonsense.

Tommy QTR wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

I want to say this was all the work of a far-left organizer trying to false-flag these as right-wing attempted bombings, but it's probably not the case.

Well it probably is the far-right, considering how notorious they are for bombings.

Yes but they tend to send real bombs not poorly made toys that even Eric and Dylan would find amateurish.

If the perp really is from the right I can't imagine this being anything other than a dumb prank rather than an actual attempt on these people's lives.

QuestionMark wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

I want to say this was all the work of a far-left organizer trying to false-flag these as right-wing attempted bombings, but it's probably not the case.

Well it probably is the far-right, considering how notorious they are for bombings.

Yes but they tend to send real bombs not poorly made toys that even Eric and Dylan would find amateurish.

If the perp really is from the right I can't imagine this being anything other than a dumb prank rather than an actual attempt on these people's lives.

Maybe he didn't have the resources to make a real bomb? For all we know it could be some teenager for thought it would be funny and wanted some attention.

Tommy QTR wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

I want to say this was all the work of a far-left organizer trying to false-flag these as right-wing attempted bombings, but it's probably not the case.

Well it probably is the far-right, considering how notorious they are for bombings.

Yes but they tend to send real bombs not poorly made toys that even Eric and Dylan would find amateurish.

If the perp really is from the right I can't imagine this being anything other than a dumb prank rather than an actual attempt on these people's lives.

Maybe he didn't have the resources to make a real bomb? For all we know it could be some teenager for thought it would be funny and wanted some attention.

Not a bad guess if we're being honest. The rudimentary nature of the bombs is what's making me think this isn't a genuine attack attempt.

Tommy QTR wrote:

mrhyde wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

I want to say this was all the work of a far-left organizer trying to false-flag these as right-wing attempted bombings, but it's probably not the case.

Well it probably is the far-right, considering how notorious they are for bombings.

From what I've seen right now it is either Antifa, Proud Boys, or an inside job. All the people they are going after are Democrats associated with Obama. Both groups there hated Obama. Am inside job would be the obvious thing as the Republicans have gained a lot of ground leading up to the midterms and this would reverse those gains. Too early to know but it has to be an organised group

I think it's most likely some fringe far-right group, as Antifa don't bomb people and it would be suicide for the proud boys as they would be classed as a terrorist organisation. It being an inside job is conspiracy level nonsense.

I really can't see it being the far-right as that would lead to a crackdown on all groups and possibly get many of the mainstream groups under surveillance if not classified as terror groups. On top of that it completely destroys any chance of them retaining the right's current position.

As was said before me, it could just be someone having fun. I honestly cannot think of any reason a serious group would send threats like this without having something to gain, i.e a far left politician hoping to game notoriety by targeting establishment Democrats. No matter who it is it's clear they want to capitalise on this for fame or notoriety in someway as building a functional pipebomb is incredibly cheap and easy

mrhyde wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

mrhyde wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

I want to say this was all the work of a far-left organizer trying to false-flag these as right-wing attempted bombings, but it's probably not the case.

Well it probably is the far-right, considering how notorious they are for bombings.

From what I've seen right now it is either Antifa, Proud Boys, or an inside job. All the people they are going after are Democrats associated with Obama. Both groups there hated Obama. Am inside job would be the obvious thing as the Republicans have gained a lot of ground leading up to the midterms and this would reverse those gains. Too early to know but it has to be an organised group

I think it's most likely some fringe far-right group, as Antifa don't bomb people and it would be suicide for the proud boys as they would be classed as a terrorist organisation. It being an inside job is conspiracy level nonsense.

I really can't see it being the far-right as that would lead to a crackdown on all groups and possibly get many of the mainstream groups under surveillance if not classified as terror groups. On top of that it completely destroys any chance of them retaining the right's current position.

As was said before me, it could just be someone having fun. I honestly cannot think of any reason a serious group would send threats like this without having something to gain, i.e a far left politician hoping to game notoriety by targeting establishment Democrats. No matter who it is it's clear they want to capitalise on this for fame or notoriety in someway as building a functional pipebomb is incredibly cheap and easy

I can't see this being done by the far-left, they're already hated by the majority of the population for being too violent so them doing this would make no sense. This is most likely just some random guy who wanted attention.

Tommy QTR wrote:

mrhyde wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

mrhyde wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

I want to say this was all the work of a far-left organizer trying to false-flag these as right-wing attempted bombings, but it's probably not the case.

Well it probably is the far-right, considering how notorious they are for bombings.

From what I've seen right now it is either Antifa, Proud Boys, or an inside job. All the people they are going after are Democrats associated with Obama. Both groups there hated Obama. Am inside job would be the obvious thing as the Republicans have gained a lot of ground leading up to the midterms and this would reverse those gains. Too early to know but it has to be an organised group

I think it's most likely some fringe far-right group, as Antifa don't bomb people and it would be suicide for the proud boys as they would be classed as a terrorist organisation. It being an inside job is conspiracy level nonsense.

I really can't see it being the far-right as that would lead to a crackdown on all groups and possibly get many of the mainstream groups under surveillance if not classified as terror groups. On top of that it completely destroys any chance of them retaining the right's current position.

As was said before me, it could just be someone having fun. I honestly cannot think of any reason a serious group would send threats like this without having something to gain, i.e a far left politician hoping to game notoriety by targeting establishment Democrats. No matter who it is it's clear they want to capitalise on this for fame or notoriety in someway as building a functional pipebomb is incredibly cheap and easy

I can't see this being done by the far-left, they're already hated by the majority of the population for being too violent so them doing this would make no sense. This is most likely just some random guy who wanted attention.

Don't forget that on both sides you have stupid guys who act alone, who are completely unskilled and who don't think about how their actions could have a negative impact on their own movement.

Neah wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

mrhyde wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

mrhyde wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

I want to say this was all the work of a far-left organizer trying to false-flag these as right-wing attempted bombings, but it's probably not the case.

Well it probably is the far-right, considering how notorious they are for bombings.

From what I've seen right now it is either Antifa, Proud Boys, or an inside job. All the people they are going after are Democrats associated with Obama. Both groups there hated Obama. Am inside job would be the obvious thing as the Republicans have gained a lot of ground leading up to the midterms and this would reverse those gains. Too early to know but it has to be an organised group

I think it's most likely some fringe far-right group, as Antifa don't bomb people and it would be suicide for the proud boys as they would be classed as a terrorist organisation. It being an inside job is conspiracy level nonsense.

I really can't see it being the far-right as that would lead to a crackdown on all groups and possibly get many of the mainstream groups under surveillance if not classified as terror groups. On top of that it completely destroys any chance of them retaining the right's current position.

As was said before me, it could just be someone having fun. I honestly cannot think of any reason a serious group would send threats like this without having something to gain, i.e a far left politician hoping to game notoriety by targeting establishment Democrats. No matter who it is it's clear they want to capitalise on this for fame or notoriety in someway as building a functional pipebomb is incredibly cheap and easy

I can't see this being done by the far-left, they're already hated by the majority of the population for being too violent so them doing this would make no sense. This is most likely just some random guy who wanted attention.

Don't forget that on both sides you have stupid guys who act alone, who are completely unskilled and who don't think about how their actions could have a negative impact on their own movement.

Well it could be any side of the political spectrum then. I would also like to add that 71% of all extremist attacks in the US are committed by the Far-right, so I doubt it's Antifa or an inside job. It's most likely a far-right group or just some random prankster.

QuestionMark wrote:

I want to say this was all the work of a far-left organizer trying to false-flag these as right-wing attempted bombings, but it's probably not the case.

At the moment I actually find this theory pretty plausible.

And now another suspicious package has been found.

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And now another suspicious package has been found.

[url=Suspicious packages addressed to Cory Booker and James Clapper discovered [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] packages addressed to Cory Booker and James Clapper discovered [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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Update: Friday - 11:06 a.m.
WASHINGTON (SBG) - The Department of Justice has stated there is a person in custody. A press conference will be held at 2 p.m. ET

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Update: Friday - 11:06 a.m.
WASHINGTON (SBG) - The Department of Justice has stated there is a person in custody. A press conference will be held at 2 p.m. ET

Oh boy oh boy oh boy

And it's an unhinged Trump fan. Can't wait for how Ann Coulter, Limbaugh, Bill Mitchell, etc. will spin this one.

Undyne wrote:

And it's an unhinged Trump fan. Can't wait for how Ann Coulter, Limbaugh, Bill Mitchell, etc. will spin this one.

They've already blamed liberals and called it a false flag.

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Ah jeez. Can't wait to see the aftermath of this.

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Yeah I saw it on the news. Shows again the most obvious suspect is likely the right one, I mean who else was it going to be really?

Suspected bomber has been named as Cesar Sayoc, this what was found on his van:

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Tommy QTR wrote:

Suspected bomber has been named as Cesar Sayoc, this what was found on his van:

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That doesn't seem at all suspicious now does it?

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Tommy QTR wrote:

Suspected bomber has been named as Cesar Sayoc, this what was found on his van:

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That doesn't seem at all suspicious now does it?

It doesn't really, considering that people like this actually exist.

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The suspect in a mail bombing spree targeting critics of President Donald Trump has been identified.

Cesar Altier Sayoc, 56, was taken into custody on Friday morning in Plantation, Florida in connection with the 12 suspicious packages that have been discovered this week.

According to Sayoc's Facebook page, he is a Trump fan who posted pictures and videos of himself at one of the President's rallies in October 2016.




He posted a photograph of himself wearing a MAGA hat in front of the US Capitol in 2017.

Sayoc was convicted of a threat to 'throw, place, project or discharge any destructive device' in 2002 in Dade County, Florida, court records show.

He has other prior convictions on felony charges including grand theft and drug possession with intent to distribute, but has never served prison time.

He claims to be Native American, and according to a picture posted on his social media page, he is a member of the Seminole Tribe of Florida.

Other information from his LinkedIn page suggests that Sayoc is Filipino.

The profile includes dubious claims that could not be immediately independently confirmed, including that Sayoc is a promoter for male striptease troupe Chippendales, and that he is enrolled in a veterinary medicine program.

'Career decision of becoming a Horse Doctor was always a love for animals, which were here first and never do anything to anyone. And respect all living things,' Sayoc wrote on the profile in a grammatical style that appears typical for him. 'My family very sound Sayoc name in Medical field.'

A van impounded in Paradise, believed to be Sayoc's, was covered densely with stickers expressing pro-Trump sentiments and denigrating prominent Democrats, including Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who were among those who had pipe bombs addressed to them this week.

Another sticker proclaimed 'CNN Sucks.' The cable network had two of the suspicious packages addressed to its headquarters in Manhattan.  



The guy was Native American, that's quite surprising.

I still can't believe people are still saying it's a false flag, how delusional can people be?

Tommy QTR wrote:

I still can't believe people are still saying it's a false flag, how delusional can people be?

The degree of delusion that exists in this world is indeed astounding.

QuestionMark wrote:

I want to say this was all the work of a far-left organizer trying to false-flag these as right-wing attempted bombings, but it's probably not the case.

It is.

This guy drew his hair in with a Sharpie.

imgview wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

I want to say this was all the work of a far-left organizer trying to false-flag these as right-wing attempted bombings, but it's probably not the case.

It is.

Yep.

I heard he was a paranoid schizophrenic, which explains why the bombs were so poorly made.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Cesar Sayoc is an amateur body builder and former stripper, a loner with a long arrest record who showed little interest in politics until Donald Trump came along.

On Friday, he was identified by authorities as the Florida man who put pipe bombs in small manila envelopes, affixed six stamps and sent them to some of Trump's most prominent critics.

His arrest capped a week in which the bombs aimed at some of America's biggest names — Obama, Clinton, De Niro — dominated the news and invited speculation about who might be responsible for them. The answer, authorities said, was Sayoc, a 56-year-old man from Aventura, Florida, who was devoted to Trump, had a history of financial problems and an extensive arrest record, including a stint on probation for making a bomb threat.

His attorney in that 2002 case, Ronald Lowy, described Sayoc as "a confused man who had trouble controlling his emotions."

A cousin of Sayoc, Lenny Altieri, used stronger terms.

"I know the guy is a lunatic," Altieri told The Associated Press. "He has been a loner."

Altieri confirmed that Sayoc had been a stripper. On an online resume, Sayoc described himself as a booker and promoter for burlesque shows.

Stacy Saccal, the general manager of the Ultra Gentlemen's Club in West Palm Beach, said Sayoc had worked there for about two months, first as a floor bouncer and for the past month as a disc jockey — most recently on Thursday night, hours before his arrest Friday morning.

"I didn't know this guy was mad crazy like this," she said Friday. "Never once did he speak politics. This is a bar. We don't talk politics or religion in a bar, you know?"

Florida voter records show Sayoc first registered in March 2016 as a Republican and cast a ballot in that November's presidential election.

He has been an active Trump supporter, tweeting and posting Facebook videos that appear to show him at the president's rallies.

Sayoc's social media accounts are peppered with memes supporting Trump, and denigrating Democrats.

Sayoc lived in a white 2002 Dodge Ram van, which was plastered with stickers supporting Trump and criticizing media outlets that included CNN, which was also targeted by mail bombs.

The van was often parked outside an LA Fitness in Aventura, backed up in a parking space under the trees for shade. Patrons say they frequently saw him in the locker room.

"He'd just be walking straight to the shower and be in the shower forever," said Edgar Lopez, who often exercises at the gym. "I never saw him working out."

Other times, the van was seen parked at the beach in nearby Hollywood before dawn, with Sayoc stripping down to skin-tight shorts for an outdoor shower.

"I've seen the guy maybe 80 times and I never said a word to him because I had a feeling he was a little off," said Marc Weiss, the superintendent of a building near where Sayoc frequently parked. "I assumed because he was showering at the beach that he was homeless."

In 2015, he reported to police that his van was broken into outside of a gym in Oakland Park, Florida. He claimed that more than $40,000 worth of items were stolen, including $7,150 worth of Donald Trump-brand suits.

But often, Sayoc was on the other side of legal complaints.

In the 2002 bomb threat case, he had lashed out at a Florida utility representative because his electricity service was about to be cut off. The arrest report said Sayoc threatened in a phone call to blow up the utility's offices and said that "It would be worse than September 11th."

Sayoc was also convicted in 2014 for grand theft and in 2013 for battery. In 2004, he faced several felony charges for unlawful possession of a synthetic anabolic steroid often used to help build muscles. He also had several arrests going back to the 1990s for theft, obtaining fraudulent refunds and tampering with evidence.

Lowy said he recalled that Sayoc also had a run-in with authorities where he was charged with possessing a fake driver's license after altering his birthdate to make him appear younger.

Sayoc displayed no political leanings at the time of the bombing charge, Lowy said, except for plastering his vehicle with Native American emblems. Sayoc told his lawyer his father was Native American.

More recently, Sayoc described himself on social media as being affiliated with the Seminole Warriors boxing club and being a member of the "Unconquered Seminole Tribe."

Gary Bitner, a spokesman for the Seminole Tribe of Florida, said there is no evidence to show that Sayoc worked for the tribe or was a tribal member.

Altieri, his cousin, said Sayoc's only connection to Native Americans was that he once dated a member of a tribe.

Sayoc was born in New York City. His mother was Italian and his biological father was Filipino, and his parents separated when he was a young boy, Altieri said. After his parents separated, Sayoc was "kind of rejected" by his family.

"When you get no love as a young kid, you get kind of out of whack," he said.

He enrolled at Brevard College in North Carolina in 1980 and attended for three semesters, said Christie Cauble, the school's interim director of communications. He then transferred to the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, enrolling for the 1983-84 academic year. Buffie Stephens, director of media relations for the school, said Sayoc didn't declare a major. He played a few games as a walk-on player for the university's men's soccer team. There is no indication he ever completed a degree.

He moved to the Miami suburbs in the late 1980s. He had serious financial problems in recent years, including losing his home in foreclosure in 2009 and filling for Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection in 2012.

In court records, Sayoc was described as having $4,175 in personal property and more than $21,000 in debts, mostly from unpaid credit cards. His monthly income at the time was $1,070.

"Debtor lives with mother, owns no furniture," Sayoc's lawyer indicated in a property list. Sayoc's mother, Madeline, also filed for bankruptcy around the same time. She was not immediately available to respond to phone messages left with her by the AP.

Sayoc's media diet appears to have consisted of a toxic mixture of conspiracy theory, parody accounts and right-wing news sites. One of Sayoc's most favored recent sources was a Twitter account that spread hoaxes about the Parkland High School shooting in Florida earlier this year.

He tweeted at least 40 times a screenshot of a meme featuring the transparently false claim that Parkland mass-shooting survivor David Hogg never went to Stoneman Douglas High School, occasionally including hostile captions such as "He is a George Soros paid protester." Soros, the billionaire progressive political donor, was targeted this week by a package bomb.

Sayoc even seems to have stumbled across a Polish conspiracy news site, tweeting out a wildly false claim that Angela Merkel had been conceived using Adolf Hitler's frozen sperm.

In June, he praised Trump in a birthday message saying, "Happy Birthday President Donald J. Trump the greatest result President ever."





Yeah this man clearly had some issues going on.