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Klebold mail to a Manson fansite or official website?
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Malloryknox
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Subject: Klebold mail to a Manson fansite or official website? Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:20 pm
I was going through some old tumblr blogs because they used to be really informative and came upon something I've never seen before. It's supposedly an email DK wrote to a Marilyn Manson website (whatever that means). The writing is alot like his journals but I searched through this website and others and did not find anyone mention it before which made me skeptical.
The supposed Email:
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“Thank you for making this website. It has opened my eyes to many different perspectives. Now I see the TRUTH about the world. Nobody seems to care about anybody else. And school is just a place that imprisons teenagers from getting in trouble on the outside. I think what the flyers on your website say is correct. “School never taught the truth about Humanity.” They constantly feed us lies. Some of us are smart enough to recognize the lies, the others just blindly sit there absorbing useless information. Some days I sit in my room and get so angry at everything. I turn on the radio and they play the same crappy music over and over. The band I hate the most are the Backstreet Boys because they are creating a whole generation of stupid screaming teenage girls who believe their false ideas of love. They don’t even realize the dent they are putting in our youth. These girls will grow up to be weak followers instead leaders. I see this at school everyday and it pisses me off. Something needs to slap them into reality. I just wish this world wasn’t so stupid.
Well I gotta go now. Let me know when you update your website.
*Peace, Love, and betrayal* Dylan Klebold”
They cited this page as the source. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Sorry if this has been talked about before or something. I could not find it.
“At the trial of God, we will ask: why did you allow all this? / And the answer will be an echo: why did you allow all this?” — Ilya Kaminsky, from “A City Like a Guillotine Shivers on Its Way to the Neck,”
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sympathyforEandD
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Subject: Re: Klebold mail to a Manson fansite or official website? Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:47 pm
Sue did say Dylan had a Marilyn Manson poster in his room, so the "liking Marilyn Manson" part checks out...
It is even signed, "Dylan Klebold." Looks pretty legit to me. Awesome find.
Malloryknox
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Subject: Re: Klebold mail to a Manson fansite or official website? Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:50 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] yeah there's also him planning this website where the MM Sweat Dreams cover would play so I don't get why people still say they weren't even into MM. Eric mentioned him at some point in an essay too if I remember correctly. The thing that makes me doubt this mail is because I can't really find it anywhere when people talk about MM in relation to the shooting, or at all really. That and my original source being tumblr lmao.
The source said the owner of the website sent it to the FBI a few days after the shooting.
“At the trial of God, we will ask: why did you allow all this? / And the answer will be an echo: why did you allow all this?” — Ilya Kaminsky, from “A City Like a Guillotine Shivers on Its Way to the Neck,”
Lizpuff
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Subject: Re: Klebold mail to a Manson fansite or official website? Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:59 pm
While Dylan did have the poster, I am dubious of this email. In the 11k alone the end is filled with all kinds of bogus tips and things like this. I don't recall this specific email, but there were items suggesting Eric wrote that he was a nazi and other things that were 100% made up. If this was really from the era, I would think it would have been lumped into that category of evidence.
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Malloryknox
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Subject: Re: Klebold mail to a Manson fansite or official website? Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:04 pm
I'm new to this site, I wanted to click thanks on both of your posts but I think it works as a kind of 'case closed' button instead of like an 'upvote' or something so I kinda messed that up.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Yeah it was a seperate document, not the 11k. What makes me curious though is that it says it's from a few days after the massacre, but the journals didn't get released until years later so how did they match Dylan's manner of writing? Maybe it's not really from a few days after though.
“At the trial of God, we will ask: why did you allow all this? / And the answer will be an echo: why did you allow all this?” — Ilya Kaminsky, from “A City Like a Guillotine Shivers on Its Way to the Neck,”
Lizpuff
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Subject: Re: Klebold mail to a Manson fansite or official website? Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:07 pm
Malloryknox wrote:
I'm new to this site, I wanted to click thanks on both of your posts but I think it works as a kind of 'case closed' button instead of like an 'upvote' or something so I kinda messed that up.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Yeah it was a seperate document, not the 11k. What makes me curious though is that it says it's from a few days after the massacre, but the journals didn't get released until years later so how did they match Dylan's manner of writing? Maybe it's not really from a few days after though.
On first glance it looks very similar to other Columbine docs but we can edit anything to make it look that way. Given that it came from tumblr, it would not be hard for someone to make up a doc and edit it to look like it came from the 11k doc or similar. I see that kind of thing happen a lot.
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Malloryknox
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Subject: Re: Klebold mail to a Manson fansite or official website? Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:11 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] It came from [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] but I don't know what document this is. Maybe one of the earlier police reports before the full 11k were released? I wonder if it's a possibility someone tried to shift more blame towards MM by faking an email like this but maybe that's too tinfoilhat-ish
“At the trial of God, we will ask: why did you allow all this? / And the answer will be an echo: why did you allow all this?” — Ilya Kaminsky, from “A City Like a Guillotine Shivers on Its Way to the Neck,”
Lizpuff
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Subject: Re: Klebold mail to a Manson fansite or official website? Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:25 pm
That image comes from the 11k directly. The content is here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
The top half is cut off in the original image. It states this: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
I am inclined to believe it is fake
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Malloryknox
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Subject: Re: Klebold mail to a Manson fansite or official website? Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:28 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I missed that, thanks! That's really interesting. Still, if it's from april 22th of that same year, I wonder how they copied his writing style. But I agree it most likely is fake.
“At the trial of God, we will ask: why did you allow all this? / And the answer will be an echo: why did you allow all this?” — Ilya Kaminsky, from “A City Like a Guillotine Shivers on Its Way to the Neck,”
KKjHAM
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Subject: Re: Klebold mail to a Manson fansite or official website? Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:45 pm
That is not Dylan's voice (writing style). He didn't write it.
sympathyforEandD
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Subject: Re: Klebold mail to a Manson fansite or official website? Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:56 am
KKjHAM wrote:
That is not Dylan's voice (writing style). He didn't write it.
The writing style isn't particularly Dylan-like, but I was inclined to believe it because it would be such an obscure thing for someone to make up. Now I'm not sure. Too much fake stuff floating around about Columbine.
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Subject: Re: Klebold mail to a Manson fansite or official website? Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:31 pm
Manson himself went out and dismissed that they were fans of hes music. Ive only seen Peter Langmann argue that they were fans of Mansons music. But that was because of bands that Eric supposedly mentioned in hes writings. I dont think that tells us much of anything, other than that he listened to Manson
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Subject: Re: Klebold mail to a Manson fansite or official website? Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:32 pm
sympathyforEandD wrote:
KKjHAM wrote:
That is not Dylan's voice (writing style). He didn't write it.
The writing style isn't particularly Dylan-like, but I was inclined to believe it because it would be such an obscure thing for someone to make up. Now I'm not sure. Too much fake stuff floating around about Columbine.
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