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PostSubject: 6 years...   6 years... Icon_minitimeFri Dec 14, 2018 2:28 pm

6 years ago, Adam Lanza had gone into sandy hook elementary school and had gunned down 26 innocent people. 20 children and six adults. Any thoughts, feelings, and/or new info can be talked about here
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PostSubject: Re: 6 years...   6 years... Icon_minitimeFri Dec 14, 2018 8:42 pm

I think what a lot of people seem to forget is that Nancy was Adam's first victim, that he shot her four times in the head with a .22 bolt action rifle; yet no one seems to remember her at all.

I hope they release Adam's Spreadsheet and the pics of him with his guns.

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PostSubject: Re: 6 years...   6 years... Icon_minitimeFri Dec 14, 2018 9:06 pm

Do you think people forget about her because they blame her? Or because his victims are all pretty much little kids? And that seems to jump out at them the most?

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PostSubject: Re: 6 years...   6 years... Icon_minitimeFri Dec 14, 2018 9:18 pm

Screamingophelia wrote:
Do you think people forget about her because they blame her? Or because his victims are all pretty much little kids? And that seems to jump out at them the most?
Honestly, I include her when it comes to victims/honoring them. Many say she was the cause but its not the case.
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PostSubject: Re: 6 years...   6 years... Icon_minitimeFri Dec 14, 2018 9:29 pm

Screamingophelia wrote:
Do you think people forget about her because they blame her? Or because his victims are all pretty much little kids? And that seems to jump out at them the most?

I think both. I agree with Tommy, she was a victim, she was killed by him, no matter if he was his son or not. Maybe she raised him in a bad way, maybe Adam's education played a part in the shooting, who knows? I think she may have a part of responsibility because it seems that she refused to get proper help for Adam, he was poorly fed, but in the same time he had seen a psychiatrist and there is no doubt Nancy was a loving mother. I think the biggest issue with Nancy is that she provided her troubled son with firearm, but yet, it is easy for us to know that he was dangerous now that we know what happened, but at the time she didn't seem to be scared about Adam having firearms (and I think she was more scared FOR him and wanted to protect him, hence maybe the guns), so maybe Adam's dangerous nature was not that obvious. He spoke well, he wrote well, he didn't seem to be violent, he was calm, I tend to think that if you had to guess what was his issue, he probably looked more suicidal than dangerous to others, although for that reason I would never have given him firearms. Apparently Nancy might have said that Adam burned himself, although we have discussed about it a little here and many people doubt it. But I guess overall he just looked a bit weird and lonely, and given that he looked younger than his age most people would just think that he was a teenager who felt ill at ease with himself.

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PostSubject: Re: 6 years...   6 years... Icon_minitimeFri Dec 14, 2018 10:00 pm

I think the reason people don't really see Nancy is a mixture of that they blame her and because the majority of his victims were children. Our society sees the death of a child more shocking and appalling than the death of an adult, the reason for this is because we see children as pure and innocent, and haven't fully lived their lives yet. The main reason however, is because they blame her for Adam's actions, the media portrayed as a gun-nut survivalist, which is not true at all, in fact the police search of the Lanza home shows that she hasn't a prepper or someone who knows a lot about guns, she just a normal mother trying to cope with her severally disturbed son. Sandy Hook Facts better explains this in his video Sandy Hook - the deadliest minute. The only reason Nancy bought the guns for Adam is because she loved him, Adam was very distant with his family during the later years of his life, he in fact had caught of all communication with father two years before the shooting, and when Adam asked Nancy to buy him a gun and to take him shooting she would, as she thought of it as a way to better connect with her son; while in fact he just used to get what he wanted, the fact is he hated Nancy and every other member of his family, I believe he would of murdered everyone of them if he had the chance. I think another reason is because she's the shooter's mother, and no one really cares the perpetrators' side, like how they don't care that Adam was suffering from several mental illnesses.

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PostSubject: Re: 6 years...   6 years... Icon_minitimeSun Dec 23, 2018 2:49 am

well, she's a victim too. but i'm sure she knews adam was mentally ill in some way. so teaching him to to use guns and giving him access them left some blood on her hands. without her, i think adam never would been able to get his hands on a gun ever
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PostSubject: Re: 6 years...   6 years... Icon_minitimeSat Dec 29, 2018 6:44 pm

After these six years, I still wonder what led to the shooting.

Why did he choose Sandy Hook and not another place? Why did he shoot his mother? What was his motive? Now we can only speculate.

I think his reason for targeting this elementary school was because he was bullied. He was longing to get revenge and had kept these feelings and suicidal/homicidal thoughts to himself for years. “The Big Book of Granny” could be seen as an indication he fantasized about murder and violence when he was young, but I’m unsure.

Apparently, he was longing to get a high kill count. Children are physically weaker than adults and he was 6’0 tall, definitely taller than a child. Weighing only 112 pounds, he was considered severely underweight, nevertheless, he was probably still heavier than a 6-year-old.

He could have also done that because he wanted to save the children from the civilization and from growing up. In the call to the radio station back in 2011, he mentioned how Travis the chimp was brought up and behaved like a human and was forced to fit in and participate in activities. Lanza wrote in a message to an online gamer “I incessantly have nothing other than scorn for humanity, I have been desperate to feel anything positive for someone for my entire life.” That was what he thought, I guess. Humans were cruel in his opinion.

His mother Nancy Lanza seems like a very outgoing person to me, while Adam was extremely shy and much of an introvert, he barely talked to other people. The two personalities don’t match, they were entirely different from each other. She wanted to help Adam to solve his problems in life, sent him to therapy and that might have been stressful for him or didn't want this (although he needed it, I still believe the shooting was preventable…) and hated her for that and many other reasons. Maybe Adam didn’t want her to suffer or to say anything about him because people would come up to her, ask her about the life with her son and confront her. So, he ended up killing her.

An important question would also be what he felt during the shooting and when he killed these children. Was he relieved, filled with rage, sad, desperate or anything else?

I keep thinking about the whole topic without coming to a conclusion. He was just done with everything and tired of being alive and bothered by all existence. It’s worth mentioning that he was depressed. Maybe he felt something, maybe he didn’t. We will never know.

Everything will probably be a secret forever. Adam Lanza was a mysterious person.

My thoughts still go out to the families and the victims.
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PostSubject: Re: 6 years...   6 years... Icon_minitimeSun Dec 30, 2018 1:54 am

I recall browsing through an old thread on a Combat Arms forum where someone mentioned how "kayn reminds me of my brother-in-law" and I thought to myself, "This is the worst aged post I have ever seen and will probably ever see in my entire life".
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