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Subject: Hostage crisis incidents Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:32 am
Munich massacre (1972) This happened on live TV. It was when Black September took Israeli athletes hostage and shot them. (12 deaths + 5/8 perpetrators) Hanafi siege (1977) criminally underrated Imagine 12 Muslims taking nearly 150 people hostage in Washington D.C. at three separate major buildings. (2 deaths, 3 injuries) Iran hostage crisis (1979-1981) People ended up hating Jimmy Carter because of how long this dragged on for along with the failed rescue attempt. (9 deaths) Iranian embassy siege (1980) This event was the subject of a major SAS operation. (2 deaths, 3 injuries + 5 perpetrators killed) Cokeville Elementary School hostage crisis (1986) David Young and Doris Young took 154 people hostage. His wife accidentally detonated the bomb which caused many injuries but no deaths, so David shot her and killed himself. (79 injuries + 2 dead perpetrators) West End Christian School crisis (1988) A man held roughly 60 people hostage and gave up as a result of a false claim made by the Alabama governor. Sacramento hostage crisis (1991) There is footage of this incident where the sniper fails to hit any of the perpetrators so the hostage takers go around shooting the hostages. (3 deaths, 14 injuries + 3 dead perpetrators) Lindhurst High School siege (1992) Eric Houston held 80+ students hostage and surrendered after a standoff. This is underrated as well. (4 dead, 10 injured) Moscow theater hostage crisis (2002) Carfentanil (allegedly) was used and resulted in the deaths of some of the hostages, causing a controversy. (130 dead, 700+ injured + 40-50 perpetrators killed) Beslan school siege (2004) This is the deadliest 'school shooting' ever, but since it was a wartime hostage crisis and the Russian soldiers (Spetsnaz) allegedly killed some people too, I would consider the deadliest school shooting to actually be the Walisongo school massacre. (334 deaths, 783 injuries + 34 hostage takers killed) Manila hostage crisis (2010) This happened on live TV as well. (8 deaths, 9 injuries + 1 dead perpetrator) Alabama bunker hostage crisis (2013) Jimmy Dykes took a child hostage in a bunker and threatened to detonate an IED. (1 bus driver killed + perpetrator killed) Sydney siege (2014) Man Monis took 18 people hostage. One of the two dead hostages was killed by police gunfire. Monis reminds me of Gavin Long. (2 dead, 4 injured + perpetrator killed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqsb2OfIo5k video of him talking Brighton siege (2017) Yacqub Khayre took a prostitute as hostage after killing a person and was eventually killed in a police shoot-out. (1 dead, 3 injured + perpetrator killed)
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Subject: Re: Hostage crisis incidents Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:43 am
Bus 174 hostage crisis (2000) This was broadcast live by most Brazilian national television channels. Sandro Rosa do Nascimento was a survivor of the Candelaria church massacre of July 23, 1993. On June 12, 2000 Nascimento boarded a public bus armed with a .38 caliber revolver, with the intention to rob the passengers. Moments after Nascimento announced the robbery, a passenger signaled to a vehicle from the Rio de Janeiro military police, prompting the police to intercept the bus. Sandro then took the bus passengers hostage. A number of events followed. At 06:50 PM local time, Nascimento exited the bus, using schoolteacher Geisa Firmo Gonçalves as a human shield. As Nascimento's attention was being held in one direction, an officer armed with a submachine gun approached Nascimento from behind. Just prior to the officer reaching him, Nascimento turned directly toward the officer and reacted by jerking away from the officer, falling to the ground, taking Gonçalves with him. The officer reacted by continuing his advance and firing two or three shots at Nascimento while doing so. The first shot struck Gonçalves in the face while none of the other shots struck Nascimento. Nascimento then proceeded to fire three shots at Gonçalves, killing her. Nascimento could be seen to be alive at the time he was placed into a police vehicle. Some time after being taken into custody, he died of asphyxiation. There were later assertions that Nascimento was intentionally killed by the police, and that his death was revenge for the public nature of the hostage event. The officers who took him into custody were charged with murder; after the jury trial, they were found not guilty. Gonçalves was shot four times. Police reports concluded she had been shot once in the face by the advancing police officer and then three times in the back by Nascimento in the ensuing struggle. The officer's shot was ruled unintentional by a court.
This is the only hostage crisis incident I could remember that happened live on TV.
Subject: Re: Hostage crisis incidents Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:28 am
Hostage crisis's are fascinating to me, they are one of my favorite types of crimes
Subject: Re: Hostage crisis incidents Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:02 pm
There was a hostage crisis at a Russian school in 2014. A 15 year old student named Sergey Gordeyev shot and killed his Geometry teacher and held his class hostage. He additionally shot and killed an officer outside the classroom, and injured another. After about an hour, his father told him to give up, wearing a bulletproof vest, and he surrendered to the police. It’s an interesting case, it’s actually the first school shooting by a student in Russia excluding the Beslan School Siege (which was a terrorist attack by multiple people).
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Casal dels Àngels school hostage crisis (2002): [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] The perpetrator would be reduced by an agent disguised as a pizza delivery man after submitting a class.
Janet M. Smith took her own cat "hostage" in a grocery store in 1994. She was shot dead while lunging at officers, cat still in her hands.
Thomas Edward Smith, who took his estranged wife hostage at a 7-Eleven store, killed a store employee and committed suicide in January 1986. The television's cameras managed to took a shot from Smith's fatal shot to the head.
Willian Augusto da Silva took 39 passengers on a bus travelling over the Rio-Niteroi bridge hostage. He was armed with a fake pistol, a stun gun, gasoline, and a knife. He was later shot by police, the only casualty. He wanted to copy the onibus 174 hijacking and go down in history. He also wore a skull mask, but I don't know if he was interested in Suzano or got the idea from it.
1979 Mitsubishi Bank hostage incident On January 26, 1979, 30 year old Akiyoshi Umekawa walked to a Mitsubishi Bank in Sumiyoshi-ku, Osaka, with a shotgun, and asked for an employee to put money in a bag he was carrying, things didnt go really well and he shot and killed 4 people, two employees and two policeman. On December 16, 1963, at the age of 15, he killed a woman. Due to his young age at the time, his criminal record would be protected, which would allow him to own a shotgun for sporting purposes. After he shot dead those four people, he took about 40 hostages, also there was 5 people hidden but Umekawa didnt known about them, they would end up escaping, He close the doors, during the crisis, he lined the hostages to protect him for possible responding officers or snipers, and ordered to the female to full naked saying the following "I've seen my own children naked for fun. It's not because a nude woman wanted to see you naked, I made you take it off. You are my servants. You are my servants and you have to do whatever the lord tells you. I just made you naked to prove it. Don't worry about it, I don't have any strange intentions. But I can't guarantee what the media guys will write. They may think they can sell as long as they write erotic articles, or they may write something funny. It's not my responsibility to go that far." and the male hostages to be only naked ont the upper body. He got angry at one of the hostages and shot him, leaving him wounded, he then ordered an employee to stab the wounded man in the liver, giving him a knife, the employee said that the hostage was dead and the Umekawa talked about a scene from the Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom and then say to him if he is dead cut off his ear, the employee end cutting off part of the left ear, then Umekawa put the part that was cut off to his mouth, before spitting it out and saying it was terrible. At the evening, the police would deliver food for him and the hostages, the police considered putting sleaping pills in the sauce for the steak, but since Akiyoshi, would make the hostages test eat his food in case for poison, the idea was dropped. Also due some hostages started having cold and said if you are having cold burn the corspe and asked who was cold and said that he also had a lot of complaints and that if they died they would be cold anymore. On 27 January, the dead bodies of the victims were starting to smell, so Umekawa asked to removed the bodies which were removed, the police tried to take advancament of the mess that was happening due to the dead bodies, but Umekawa put a bank employee suit to look like a hostage. The on the morning of 28 January, police entered the bank and killed him, being the last criminal killed by Japanese police, until 2018, when a 21 year old attacked two police officers with a knife, killing one of them. More stuff happened, but unfornately there isnt a lot of info in English.