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Subject: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:33 pm
I am specifically talking about loaded magazines NOT how many rounds.
Seung Hui Cho: Carried 19 10-15 rounds magazines
Elliot Rodger: 40 10 round magazines
George Hennard 3 15 round magazines for his Ruger P89 and 3 17 round magazines for his Glock 17
That´s three I can remember of the top of my head.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:20 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Adam Lanza carried ten 30 round magazines for his rifle (two of which were duct taped together "jungle style") and six magazines for each of pistols. Although I cannot recall the exact document, I recall reading somewhere in the DESP that these were a mix of 17 round magazines and 20 round magazines.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:10 pm
Dylann Roof carried 8 magazines with 11 bullets in each, for a total of 88
He is such a racist edgelord it hurts
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:41 pm
Nikolas Cruz: Carried 2 40 round P-MAGS, 4 30 round P-MAGS, and 1 30 round aluminum USGI magazine for a total of 260 rounds iirc
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:06 pm
Robert Hawkins carried 2 30 round magazines taped together.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:08 pm
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:15 pm
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Robert Hawkins carried 2 30 round magazines taped together.
That was all he took? He must've made those bullets count to be able to hit 9 people fatally.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:31 pm
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Robert Hawkins carried 2 30 round magazines taped together.
That was all he took? He must've made those bullets count to be able to hit 9 people fatally.
Yeah he either had practice or was extremely lucky. That's similar to Charles Whitman (UT bell tower shooter) he was a trained marksman which was one of the reasons the shooting was as bad as it was. He actually shot a pregnant woman in the stomach to kill her baby then shot the guy she was with that rushed to help her. To use Columbine as an example if Eric and Dylan had this guys training and knowledge it would have been much much worse
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:34 pm
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QuestionMark wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Robert Hawkins carried 2 30 round magazines taped together.
That was all he took? He must've made those bullets count to be able to hit 9 people fatally.
Yeah he either had practice or was extremely lucky. That's similar to Charles Whitman (UT bell tower shooter) he was a trained marksman which was one of the reasons the shooting was as bad as it was. He actually shot a pregnant woman in the stomach to kill her baby then shot the guy she was with that rushed to help her. To use Columbine as an example if Eric and Dylan had this guys training and knowledge it would have been much much worse
In Dylann Roof's case he honestly probably didn't need to be accurate or lucky since it was such close quarters. It was pretty much like shooting fish in a barrel since the area was pretty confined and most of the victims were cowering/hiding as opposed to running or fighting (other than 1 victim).
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:50 pm
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:08 pm
Richard Durn: 6 15 round magazines and one extended magazine with 26 rounds.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:23 pm
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:21 pm
David Ali Sonboly carried 2 17 round magazines for his Glock 17.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:38 pm
Gabe Parker 2 10 round magazines
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:24 pm
David Katz: three .45 caliber 14 round magazines one 9mm 13 round magazine one 9mm 16 round magazine
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:59 pm
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David Katz: three .45 caliber 14 round magazines one 9mm 13 round magazine one 9mm 16 round magazine
Source bro?
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:43 pm
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David Katz: three .45 caliber 14 round magazines one 9mm 13 round magazine one 9mm 16 round magazine
The information about the magazines is in file sup 26, pages 19, 18, 36. I determined that there was a third 14 round magazine by using a bit of thinking on my own with the help of the CCTV timeline.
PM me if you feel too lazy to find the timeline of the shooting.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:20 am
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:14 pm
Not a mass shooter and he didn’t carry magazines but Aaron Ybarra carried 50 shotgun shells.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:10 pm
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:12 pm
Seifeddine Rezgui Yacoubi actually carried 5 30 round magazines. He also carried 3 hand grenades and fireworks.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:46 pm
Connor Betts had one 100 round drum magazine and brought about 250 bullets.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:40 pm
Robert Hawkins had 2 30 round magazines, and Patrick Crusius had a 100 round drum magazine
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:27 am
Scott Beierle: six 9mm 17 rounds maganizes
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:54 pm
Eric Harris had 13 10 round magazines for his Hi Point Carbine Rifle
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:22 pm
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Robert Hawkins carried 2 30 round magazines taped together.
That was all he took? He must've made those bullets count to be able to hit 9 people fatally.
Robert killed 8 people, but he did kill himself if you count that as 9. I agree that he was accurate during the shooting.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:56 am
QuestionMark wrote:
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Robert Hawkins carried 2 30 round magazines taped together.
That was all he took? He must've made those bullets count to be able to hit 9 people fatally.
Sixty bullets is a lot of bullets
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:21 am
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QuestionMark wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Robert Hawkins carried 2 30 round magazines taped together.
That was all he took? He must've made those bullets count to be able to hit 9 people fatally.
Sixty bullets is a lot of bullets
Normally yes, but for a mass shooting it's actually pretty light. Most killers take hundreds of rounds and something like a dozen magazines.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:41 am
Marc Lepine had 2 30 round magazines for his Ruger Mini 14
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:48 am
Anders Behring Breivik had 10 30 round magazines for his Ruger Mini 14, and 4 30 round magazines for his Glock 34
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:39 pm
QuestionMark wrote:
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QuestionMark wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Robert Hawkins carried 2 30 round magazines taped together.
That was all he took? He must've made those bullets count to be able to hit 9 people fatally.
Sixty bullets is a lot of bullets
Normally yes, but for a mass shooting it's actually pretty light. Most killers take hundreds of rounds and something like a dozen magazines.
Interesting. I wonder if there's a correlation between some shooters expecting or wanting to exchange gunfire with police or other armed people, and highest amounts of ammo. Obviously Paddock expected but didnt want police interference and he had thousands of rounds and fired something like a thousand rounds. But i wonder.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:44 pm
Jared Lee Loughner had a 33 round magazine for his Glock 19
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:33 am
Wade Michael Page had 3 19 round magazines.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:45 pm
He had at least 6 magazines in his vest, one in the bolt action Mossberg Predator rifle, two magazines attached together on the Ruger AR-556, and the drum magazine in the Windham Weaponry WW-15.
The 10 magazines I listed are the ones he bought online, it's possible he bought more magazines in store.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:42 pm
Baruch Goldstein (1994 Cave of the Patriarchs massacre): 4 magazines with 35 rounds each
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:48 pm
Matti Saari had 8 magazines for his Walther P22
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:20 pm
John T. Earnest - 5 magazines of 10 rounds each
Pekka-Eric Auvinen - 2 magazines, which he kept refilling throughout the shooting
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:31 am
Euler Fernando Grandolpho: 4 magazines containing 11 rounds each
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:32 am
Bruce Pardo: Sixteen 18-round magazines
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:51 am
Ethan Crumbley (ugh): three 15-round magazines
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Tue May 10, 2022 11:22 am
Terry Ratzmann: Three 15-round magazines
Larry Gene Ashbrook: at least 10 magazines
Tim Kretschmer: Two 15-round magazines
Seung-Hui Cho: Ten 15-round Glock magazines and ten 10-round Walther magazines
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sun May 15, 2022 6:15 am
Payton Gendron: x8 USGI 30 round magazines
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Mon May 16, 2022 8:45 am
Gabriel Wortman:
1 13-round mag for his Glock 23 3 15-round mags for the stolen RCMP issue S&W model 5947 3 15-round Ruger P89 mags 1 40-round PMAG AR mag 2 30-round PMAG AR mags 1 5-round Ruger mini 14 mag 1 30-round promag Ruger mini 14 RUG-A4 mag
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Wed May 18, 2022 6:48 am
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Mon May 23, 2022 8:10 am
Charles Whitman:
1 15-round .30 cal mag 6 30-round .30 cal mags 2 9mm mags (unspecified capacity) 1 .25 cal mag (unknown capacity) 1 cartridge belt for 6mm ammo (22 rounds in it) 1 holster ammunition holder with 11 ammo (presumably .357)
He had a lot of boxed ammunition though.
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Fri May 27, 2022 2:04 pm
Salvador Ramos (this one made my jaw drop):
58 magazines (update: seems to be all 30-round Pmags)
11 mags were inside the school (3 on Salvador, 2 in room 112, and 6 in room 111) 31 mags were inside his backpack outside the school 1 mag was dropped outside the school 15 mags were at the truck crash site
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Fri May 27, 2022 3:55 pm
Jacob Tyler Roberts: Four 30-round ammunition magazines.
Genildo Ferreira De França: five boxes of ammunition with a total of 250 rounds
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:06 am
Robert Aaron Long:
2 17-round magazines + 50 9mm bullets
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Subject: Re: Number of magazines carried by mass shooters Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:00 pm
John Zawahri: Forty 30-round magazines
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