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TheGoodGuy

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 | Subject: School Shooters/Mass Shooters physical state during their shooting. Thu May 30, 2019 9:22 am | |
| Who do you think were calm, relaxed and collected during the shooting and who were high on adrenaline probably very anxious, confused, scared or maybe feeling a thrill from the adrenaline and the shooting without being confused or scared? | |
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Russianman

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 | Subject: Re: School Shooters/Mass Shooters physical state during their shooting. Thu May 30, 2019 11:46 am | |
| I think most mass murderers not were calm, if even witnesses said "he was calm". Smile it's also not a sign calm. Roslyakov looks very calm on videos, but I think he played his show.
But we don't have many footage with shooters where we can say calm was or not. Cho according many people was calm, but I don't think so. | |
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TheGoodGuy

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 | Subject: Re: School Shooters/Mass Shooters physical state during their shooting. Thu May 30, 2019 12:50 pm | |
| - Russianman wrote:
- I think most mass murderers not were calm, if even witnesses said "he was calm". Smile it's also not a sign calm. Roslyakov looks very calm on videos, but I think he played his show.
But we don't have many footage with shooters where we can say calm was or not. Cho according many people was calm, but I don't think so. I like to think Cho was calm but with his selective mutism which is an extreme form of anxiety I doubt he would´ve been calm during the shooting. With Eric and Dylan I think they were feeling more of a thrill from the adrenaline whereas other shooters might have felt scared and confused because of the anxiety, like I think Cruz was an example of being anxius, scared and confused not at all calm and collected I think this because of how random his targets are shooting at a few people in each classroom whereas a collected calm person would more likely clear one room methodically to make sure they were dead, Cruz also didn´t shoot the guy next to him while he took his rifle out which I think wouldn´ve made sense if he was trying to ambush a classroom and not wanting to ruin the element of surprise but he immediately opened fire on people so I think his adrenaline made him go all over the place. | |
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Primate Murder Top 10 Contributor

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 | Subject: Re: School Shooters/Mass Shooters physical state during their shooting. Thu May 30, 2019 4:17 pm | |
| The London Bridge Attackers were screaming. Also, Pekka didn’t seem calm as well. _________________ "The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling" - Elliot Rodger
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dereknocturnal
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 | Subject: Re: School Shooters/Mass Shooters physical state during their shooting. Thu May 30, 2019 6:22 pm | |
| A.C. = After Columbine. I think many mass shooters would be high adrenaline. The new protocols of police attacking mass shooters I would think you would be very high energy hoping to get as high of a "kill count" as possible until the police arrived. I also wonder. are mass shooters scared of being shot but just injured by police, like the fort hood guy I think he was just paralyzed, wouldn't that be an incredibly embarrassing end to their massacre, sitting in a wheelchair in a court room humiliated. I'd think they'd be high energy, kill a ton of people, kill self before law enforcement arrives. | |
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UncontinuedProcess

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 | Subject: Re: School Shooters/Mass Shooters physical state during their shooting. Thu May 30, 2019 7:36 pm | |
| I think shooters being described as looking "calm" in their spree is mostly likely because of them being focused on the task at hand. I think this is also applies when people describe shooters as being apparently emotionless in expressions as well as most people having a hollow view on what emotions could be and don't or are not willing to realize that facial expressions don't entirely or accurately reflect what a person is feeling emotionally. These descriptions of shooters being "stonefaced","calm" or "emotionless" has become a favorite for the media and they use it to dehumanize shooters more even though any further dehumanization is unnecessary/overkill (like we talking about mass murderers here folks I think that says enough.) | |
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dereknocturnal
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 | Subject: Re: School Shooters/Mass Shooters physical state during their shooting. Thu May 30, 2019 8:55 pm | |
| - UncontinuedProcess wrote:
- I think shooters being described as looking "calm" in their spree is mostly likely because of them being focused on the task at hand. I think this is also applies when people describe shooters as being apparently emotionless in expressions as well as most people having a hollow view on what emotions could be and don't or are not willing to realize that facial expressions don't entirely or accurately reflect what a person is feeling emotionally. These descriptions of shooters being "stonefaced","calm" or "emotionless" has become a favorite for the media and they use it to dehumanize shooters more even though any further dehumanization is unnecessary/overkill (like we talking about mass murderers here folks I think that says enough.)
I agree with this! I think a big factor is the race to dehumanize. It's very easy for mass media to create their own narrative once they dehumanize, even with people that are still living. | |
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TheGoodGuy

Posts : 280 Contribution Points : 53891 Forum Reputation : 45 Join date : 2017-05-25 Age : 28
 | Subject: Re: School Shooters/Mass Shooters physical state during their shooting. Fri May 31, 2019 7:40 am | |
| - UncontinuedProcess wrote:
- I think shooters being described as looking "calm" in their spree is mostly likely because of them being focused on the task at hand. I think this is also applies when people describe shooters as being apparently emotionless in expressions as well as most people having a hollow view on what emotions could be and don't or are not willing to realize that facial expressions don't entirely or accurately reflect what a person is feeling emotionally. These descriptions of shooters being "stonefaced","calm" or "emotionless" has become a favorite for the media and they use it to dehumanize shooters more even though any further dehumanization is unnecessary/overkill (like we talking about mass murderers here folks I think that says enough.)
Good point, also the victims are very scared and confused and their adrenaline is pumping so for them being in that state to see a gunman who "focuses on the task at hand" it might look like they are calmer than they actually are. | |
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MAB1996
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 | Subject: Re: School Shooters/Mass Shooters physical state during their shooting. Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:44 pm | |
| I don’t think that Nikolas Cruz was that calm, either. | |
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 | Subject: Re: School Shooters/Mass Shooters physical state during their shooting. Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:11 pm | |
| Matti Saari was acting very agressivley, and reveling in the situation. |
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