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Why do school shooters post "warning sign" things on their social media
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Gold Digger
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Subject: Why do school shooters post "warning sign" things on their social media Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:28 pm
If people like Cruz really intended to go through with his shooting plan, why post things on social media that would freak everyone out and maybe get him reported to the police?
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Subject: Re: Why do school shooters post "warning sign" things on their social media Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:07 pm
Eric would call it "foreshadowing". Some people are just plain bad with secrets.
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Subject: Re: Why do school shooters post "warning sign" things on their social media Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:09 pm
Do you remember Brooke Higgins and Sienna Johnson? Also there were these boys in England who wanted to be the English Eric and Dylan and one of them told a friend on Snapchat. Seems like some of them are trying to get caught but it's interesting how some like Cruz can get away with it and others can't.
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Subject: Re: Why do school shooters post "warning sign" things on their social media Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:32 pm
Sometimes I kind of think it's a cry for help tbh
thelmar
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Subject: Re: Why do school shooters post "warning sign" things on their social media Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:12 pm
There's a really great scholarly article about this. It's a phenomenon called "leakage" and it is recognized as one of the steps in pre-attack preparation for mass murderers, including school shooters. The steps are: the gathering of weapons, improving their skill, probing and boundary pushing, and finally, leakage.
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"The motivation for leakage can be either intentional or unintentional, of course, depending on the perpetrator’s relationship with the person who hears, reads, or sees the leakage. It seems most likely that leakage is not singly motivated, but rather occurs for a number of reasons. These motivations could range from the need for excitement, a sense of accumulating power, a desire to frighten or intimidate, a seeking of attention, to simply fear and anxiety concerning the impending act. In some cases, it may reflect an inability of subjects to contain within themselves the emotions associated with the anticipated violence. They may regret the leakage as soon as it has been uttered or communicated in some form. In other cases, such as the Sodini case, it may be a prolonged and deliberate seeking of attention, perhaps from anyone, before the act; and a desire to memorialize their leakage in cyberspace following their death. This latter behavior, much more deliberate than spontaneous, may be a product of pride investment, or narcissistic inflation concerning the act itself and the notoriety it will bring to the subject after death. Often this pathological narcissism is compensatory: the fantasy of the act, and all the planning and preparation, have brought a resolve and meaning to a life that is emotionally blighted and socially aimless (Hempel et al., 1999; Meloy et al., 2004b). Historical acts of martyrdom, even if not motivated by religious belief, can contain within them both homicidal and suicidal motives, and a desire to be memorialized by others (Menninger, 1938). What is clearly apparent in our work, but still often misconstrued by others, is that leakage is not generally motivated by a desire to be caught or stopped, which would imply the anticipation of remorse, or recognition that the impending act is desired, but morally repugnant. This would suggest a level of maturity, stability, and conscience development that appears woefully absent in many of these cases."
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Subject: Re: Why do school shooters post "warning sign" things on their social media Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:30 am
Some of them are just low-IQ.
Cho with his Asian IQ didn't do any of this foreshadowing shit.
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Subject: Re: Why do school shooters post "warning sign" things on their social media Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:45 am
Because people will turn a blind eye if its a once in a moment thing. Like the "Evan" short, the protagonist quickly scrolled up to the shooter posting a picture of himself and his gun with a threatening caption, the shooter watching videos about how to handle guns better etc.
If you're lapse in the head, you'd post so much in such crude detail with no form of hiding you'll get caught like that columbiner trio.
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Subject: Re: Why do school shooters post "warning sign" things on their social media Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:28 am
sympathyforEandD wrote:
Some of them are just low-IQ.
Cho with his Asian IQ didn't do any of this foreshadowing shit.
Untrue. As early as eighth grade Cho was writing papers about how he hoped someone would "repeat Columbine" and wrote threatening messages on his binders. His stalking of women also caused him to get involuntarily committed, which, legally speaking, should've prevented him from ever owning a firearm.
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