Dylan's ancestry information

Does anybody know what Dylan's ancestry was on his father's side?

His mothers is well documented. Apparently his mother was the daughter of Ukrainian Jews born in Kirovohrad, who emigrated to Ohio and the Northeast before WW2.

Here's Dylan's family tree as viewed on his mothers side - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

-eulogy- wrote:

Does anybody know what Dylan's ancestry was on his father's side?

His mothers is well documented. Apparently his mother was the daughter of Ukrainian Jews born in Kirovohrad, who emigrated to Ohio and the Northeast before WW2.

Here's Dylan's family tree as viewed on his mothers side - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Cool. Thanks for sharing this. I recall that Jeff Kass' book had a lot of family history including his father's side of the family but I don't have it handy.

I'm guessing that Eric's ancestry is just....English/Scottish/or Irish. The basic White-Anglo American ancestry. I don't think he was German even though he was interested in German stuff.

-eulogy- wrote:

I'm guessing that Eric's ancestry is just....English/Scottish/or Irish. The basic White-Anglo American ancestry. I don't think he was German even though he was interested in German stuff.

Harris is a "Scottish" surname, but it's also an extremely common surname. Given that it's hard to say, but the most common ancestry in the United States is Irish/German.

Here is an interesting tool for researching Surname populations, however it doesn't tell us any more on Harris/Klebold than we already know.

Actually, "Harris" is of English origin. His mother's name "Poole" is of English origin as well. Harris was Anglo-Saxon. His parents look as if they're related as well, which is kind of odd.

Klebold sounds Nordic. I'm guessing German or Danish.

-eulogy- wrote:

Actually, "Harris" is of English origin. His mother's name "Poole" is of English origin as well. Harris was Anglo-Saxon. His parents look as if they're related as well, which is kind of odd.

Klebold sounds Nordic. I'm guessing German or Danish.

That's why I said Scottish in quotation marks.

Were the Klebolds "rich"?

I'd say they were. Susan came from an extremely wealthy Jewish family with roots in Ohio. A local community center bears the name of "Leo Yassenoff", Dylan's grandfather.

Also, has anybody seen Tom without his glasses? There's only one picture of him.

-eulogy- wrote:

Were the Klebolds "rich"?

I'd say they were. Susan came from an extremely wealthy Jewish family with roots in Ohio. A local community center bears the name of "Leo Yassenoff", Dylan's grandfather.

Also, has anybody seen Tom without his glasses? There's only one picture of him.

His house was huge, and had a guest house a swimming pool and a tennis court. Poor people couldn't afford something that huge, unless they were in some kind of unseen debt?

They do mention having had 'episodic financial difficulties over last 10 years' in Dylan's diversion papers.

I remember reading that Tom and Sue bought the house when it was still a dump. Tom fixed the house mainly by him self. They bought it really cheap. I think their financial status was above averadge, but they weren't really filthy rich...

tragedy79 wrote:

I remember reading that Tom and Sue bought the house when it was still a dump. Tom fixed the house mainly by him self. They bought it really cheap. I think their financial status was above averadge, but they weren't really filthy rich...

This is what I recall as well. Also, Tom owns a mortgage business, works out of his home, and additionally fixes up and rents out properties. Tom seems an entrepreneurial jack of all trades.

-eulogy- wrote:

Actually, "Harris" is of English origin. His mother's name "Poole" is of English origin as well. Harris was Anglo-Saxon. His parents look as if they're related as well, which is kind of odd.

Klebold sounds Nordic. I'm guessing German or Danish.

Actually "Poole" is very common among English people of Jewish ancestry, so it is possible that Harris also had Jewish ancestry.

.....No.

Look at her for Christ sake. She looks like she could be Wayne's sister. Both of them look exactly alike, so unless Wayne also has Jewish ancestry, I'd HIGHLY doubt this. Both of them are white as can be and don't look Semitic at all. I can tell a Jew from a mile a way and she is NOT jewish.

"I can tell a Jew from a mile a way"

That's a pretty bold statement: Actually it sounds pretty racist to me.
That's what they also said in Germany during the propoganda period in the early thirty's...Goebels told everyone that you could spot a Jew from miles, For example very rich and big noses.

Wich is complete bullshit, because many Jews mixed with other races, so many Jews are not recognizable as such.

I also think Kathy wasn't from Jewish origin, but I think you should be more careful what you are saying, eulogy!

tragedy79 wrote:

"I can tell a Jew from a mile a way"

That's a pretty bold statement: Actually it sounds pretty racist to me.
That's what they also said in Germany during the propoganda period in the early thirty's...Goebels told everyone that you could spot a Jew from miles: Big noses en very rich.

Wich is complete bullshit, because many Jews mixed with others, so many Jews are not recognizable and look completley the same  like other western people.

I also think Kathy wasn't from Jewish origin, but I think you should be more careful what you are saying, eulogy!

I never said I knew that she was Jewish, I was just saying that it is possible.

Mr_Chagrin wrote:

tragedy79 wrote:

"I can tell a Jew from a mile a way"

That's a pretty bold statement: Actually it sounds pretty racist to me.
That's what they also said in Germany during the propoganda period in the early thirty's...Goebels told everyone that you could spot a Jew from miles: Big noses en very rich.

Wich is complete bullshit, because many Jews mixed with others, so many Jews are not recognizable and look completley the same  like other western people.

I also think Kathy wasn't from Jewish origin, but I think you should be more careful what you are saying, eulogy!

I never said I knew that she was Jewish, I was just saying that it is possible.

I know..That's why we are here: to speculate  It would be pretty interesting if Eric was drawing Swastika's, admiring Nazi's and doing what he did on Hitler's birthday and in the end we found out he was from Jewish origin.

tragedy79 wrote:

Mr_Chagrin wrote:

tragedy79 wrote:

"I can tell a Jew from a mile a way"

That's a pretty bold statement: Actually it sounds pretty racist to me.
That's what they also said in Germany during the propoganda period in the early thirty's...Goebels told everyone that you could spot a Jew from miles: Big noses en very rich.

Wich is complete bullshit, because many Jews mixed with others, so many Jews are not recognizable and look completley the same  like other western people.

I also think Kathy wasn't from Jewish origin, but I think you should be more careful what you are saying, eulogy!

I never said I knew that she was Jewish, I was just saying that it is possible.

I know..That's why we are here: to speculate  It would be pretty interesting if Eric was drawing Swastika's, admiring Nazi's and doing what he did on Hitler's birthday and in the end we found out he was from Jewish origin.

Indeed, It would be interesting to see Eric confronting Dylan about his ancestry. As apparently happens in the basement tapes.

Mr_Chagrin wrote:

tragedy79 wrote:

Mr_Chagrin wrote:

tragedy79 wrote:

"I can tell a Jew from a mile a way"

That's a pretty bold statement: Actually it sounds pretty racist to me.
That's what they also said in Germany during the propoganda period in the early thirty's...Goebels told everyone that you could spot a Jew from miles: Big noses en very rich.

Wich is complete bullshit, because many Jews mixed with others, so many Jews are not recognizable and look completley the same  like other western people.

I also think Kathy wasn't from Jewish origin, but I think you should be more careful what you are saying, eulogy!

I never said I knew that she was Jewish, I was just saying that it is possible.

I know..That's why we are here: to speculate  It would be pretty interesting if Eric was drawing Swastika's, admiring Nazi's and doing what he did on Hitler's birthday and in the end we found out he was from Jewish origin.

Indeed, It would be interesting to see Eric confronting Dylan about his ancestry. As apparently happens in the basement tapes.

If only we could see with our own eyes  

tragedy79 wrote:

"I can tell a Jew from a mile a way"

That's a pretty bold statement: Actually it sounds pretty racist to me.
That's what they also said in Germany during the propoganda period in the early thirty's...Goebels told everyone that you could spot a Jew from miles, For example very rich and big noses.

Wich is complete bullshit, because many Jews mixed with other races, so many Jews are not recognizable as such.

I also think Kathy wasn't from Jewish origin, but I think you should be more careful what you are saying, eulogy!

Sounds racist to me too! And if I were Jewish, I'd be offended by such comments.

K.F.C. wrote:

tragedy79 wrote:

"I can tell a Jew from a mile a way"

That's a pretty bold statement: Actually it sounds pretty racist to me.
That's what they also said in Germany during the propoganda period in the early thirty's...Goebels told everyone that you could spot a Jew from miles, For example very rich and big noses.

Wich is complete bullshit, because many Jews mixed with other races, so many Jews are not recognizable as such.

I also think Kathy wasn't from Jewish origin, but I think you should be more careful what you are saying, eulogy!

Sounds racist to me too! And if I were Jewish, I'd be offended by such comments.

I think being Jewish has nothing to do with the massacre, but hell Eric certainly didn't look Jewish. That recent shooter however does.

Mr_Chagrin wrote:

K.F.C. wrote:

tragedy79 wrote:

"I can tell a Jew from a mile a way"

That's a pretty bold statement: Actually it sounds pretty racist to me.
That's what they also said in Germany during the propoganda period in the early thirty's...Goebels told everyone that you could spot a Jew from miles, For example very rich and big noses.

Wich is complete bullshit, because many Jews mixed with other races, so many Jews are not recognizable as such.

I also think Kathy wasn't from Jewish origin, but I think you should be more careful what you are saying, eulogy!

Sounds racist to me too! And if I were Jewish, I'd be offended by such comments.

I think being Jewish has nothing to do with the massacre, but hell Eric certainly didn't look Jewish. That recent shooter however does.

Being Jewish doesn't have anything to do with it. But you don't think people who are Jewish might get offended if they were browsing the forum and saw someone say "I can spot a Jew a mile away because of their hug nose?" or something along those lines?!?

K.F.C. wrote:

Mr_Chagrin wrote:

K.F.C. wrote:

tragedy79 wrote:

"I can tell a Jew from a mile a way"

That's a pretty bold statement: Actually it sounds pretty racist to me.
That's what they also said in Germany during the propoganda period in the early thirty's...Goebels told everyone that you could spot a Jew from miles, For example very rich and big noses.

Wich is complete bullshit, because many Jews mixed with other races, so many Jews are not recognizable as such.

I also think Kathy wasn't from Jewish origin, but I think you should be more careful what you are saying, eulogy!

Sounds racist to me too! And if I were Jewish, I'd be offended by such comments.

I think being Jewish has nothing to do with the massacre, but hell Eric certainly didn't look Jewish. That recent shooter however does.

Being Jewish doesn't have anything to do with it. But you don't think people who are Jewish might get offended if they were browsing the forum and saw someone say "I can spot a Jew a mile away because of their hug nose?" or something along those lines?!?

It's quite possible, I have a kind of big nose but I'm not Jewish. I don't think Dylan even looked distinctly "Jewish" if there is such a thing. However people will always find something to be offended by. I don't think this board will be of attacked for speaking bluntly about the visual appearance of Jewish people; we spend our time talking about massacres after all.  

In Jeff Kass' book, he mentions Dylan's grandfather, William H. Klebold, was originally from Pearl, Texas. He doesn't mention much else except that he served in the army in Europe during WWI and moved to Toledo, Ohio in 1919.

deelightful wrote:

In Jeff Kass' book, he mentions Dylan's grandfather, William H. Klebold, was originally from Pearl, Texas. He doesn't mention much else except that he served in the army in Europe during WWI and moved to Toledo, Ohio in 1919.

Right, be he does talk more about Susan's grandfather/father.