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EL PASO, Texas (KTSM) —

UPDATE: KTSM can confirm that 18 people were shot inside the Walmart. The extent of their injuries is unknown at this time.

El Paso Police and multiple other law enforcement agencies are responding to a shooting at the Walmart an active shooter situation.

Details are limited at this time. KTSM has a crew in route to the scene.

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Damn, just after the garlic festival one?

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Another Walmart mass shooting after a Walmart mass shooting?

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Looks like the manifesto was originally posted on 8chan:
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If so, thats the third shooter from 8chan. Media hasn't picked up on it yet. Fallout is going to be INTENSE.
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According to CNN: "Several people killed"
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At least 18 dead according to BNL news

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Pictures of the Shooter:

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Up to 20 feared dead:

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And here I was thinking that mass shootings were starting to abate in America...holy fuck.

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BNL is reporting the alleged manifesto is a hoax. Not sure if true.

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about 20 minutes ago, a guy called in, claimed shooter said "gamers rise up", said they were warned they were in danger of getting raped by african migrants. ends by calling the reporter a dumbfuck.

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about 20 minutes ago, a guy called in, claimed shooter said "gamers rise up", said they were warned they were in danger of getting raped by african migrants. ends by calling the reporter a dumbfuck.


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Two videos of the aftermath.


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Why the hell are they letting members of the public into an active crime scene?
If that were my family member lying dead on the floor with a bunch of scumbags filming his body I would be destroyed.
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Will this ever end?

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Will this ever end?

As long as humans exist, it will never end. Taking action can reduce it though.

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Fun fact: Nehemiah Griego planned to go on a shooting rampage at Walmart after killing his family. Just a coincidence of mine.
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I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but since it was so close to the Gilroy shooting and the same type of gun was used, could these be coordinated attacks?

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I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but since it was so close to the Gilroy shooting and the same type of gun was used, could these be coordinated attacks?

If another shooting happens within a week, and a AK rifle is used, THEN I might start believing you.

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I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but since it was so close to the Gilroy shooting and the same type of gun was used, could these be coordinated attacks?

If another shooting happens within a week, and a AK rifle is used, THEN I might start believing you.
Well hopefully I'm wrong and there aren't any more shootings.

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We know his name:

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What an ugly cunt.

Also the police have confirmed the Manifesto was written by him.

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Will this ever end?
No, there's always going to be some pitiful male who is suppressed by Gynocentrism and full of hatred at himself.
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Also the police have confirmed the Manifesto was written by him.
Link?

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Will this ever end?
No, there's always going to be some pitiful male who is suppressed by Gynocentrism and full of hatred at himself.

pitiful white male.....
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What an ugly cunt.

Also the police have confirmed the Manifesto was written by him.

Of course he's ugly, most shooters are ugly. Because what do they have to lose? This what happens when you raise generations of weak men and all the while making them disposable at the same time.
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haydenschool wrote:
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Will this ever end?
No, there's always going to be some pitiful male who is suppressed by Gynocentrism and full of hatred at himself.

pitiful white male.....

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haydenschool wrote:
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Tommy QTR wrote:
Will this ever end?
No, there's always going to be some pitiful male who is suppressed by Gynocentrism and full of hatred at himself.

pitiful white male.....
The race that makes up the majority of the population is responsible for the majority of mass shootings. How interesting.

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Torque187 wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
Will this ever end?
No, there's always going to be some pitiful male who is suppressed by Gynocentrism and full of hatred at himself.

pitiful white male.....

This isn't a white male problem. It's only a white male problem because this is America where the majority of people are white. Mass murderers are diverse. It's not a white male problem, it's a MALE problem.

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Also the police have confirmed the Manifesto was written by him.
Link?
NBC said it in a news report.

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Tommy QTR wrote:

Also the police have confirmed the Manifesto was written by him.
Link?
NBC said it in a news report.
When you say news report, do you mean on their livestream? Because their article on the shooting explicitly says "[the police] have not officially confirmed it."

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STK wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
STK wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:

Also the police have confirmed the Manifesto was written by him.
Link?
NBC said it in a news report.
When you say news report, do you mean on their livestream? Because their article on the shooting explicitly says "[the police] have not officially confirmed it."
Yeah their livestream, a buddy of mine on discord who's been watching it said they confirmed it.

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Tommy QTR wrote:
STK wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
STK wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:

Also the police have confirmed the Manifesto was written by him.
Link?
NBC said it in a news report.
When you say news report, do you mean on their livestream? Because their article on the shooting explicitly says "[the police] have not officially confirmed it."
Yeah their livestream, a buddy of mine on discord who's been watching it said they confirmed it.
Could you ask your buddy how many minutes ago this was? I'd like to watch it myself.

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STK wrote:
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Also the police have confirmed the Manifesto was written by him.
Link?
NBC said it in a news report.
When you say news report, do you mean on their livestream? Because their article on the shooting explicitly says "[the police] have not officially confirmed it."
Yeah their livestream, a buddy of mine on discord who's been watching it said they confirmed it.
Could you ask your buddy how many minutes ago this was? I'd like to watch it myself.
I just asked him and he said like about 40 mins although he didn't know the exact time.

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Holy shit, 20 people have died. It feels like nowhere in America is safe anymore. I was just at Wal-Mart today. Not this periodical one, but damn. This is happening more often and just anywhere nowadays. Frightening.
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Automation is going to destroy a lot of jobs he does have a point. Automation will cause even more mass shootings.
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I read his manifesto very quickly. He says he agrees with Brenton Tarrant, and that his own attack was in response to immigrants taking over Texas. Very similar case to Tarrant. I’m honestly surprised he didn’t livestream it
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I read his manifesto very quickly. He says he agrees with Brenton Tarrant, and that his own attack was in response to immigrants taking over Texas. Very similar case to Tarrant. I’m honestly surprised he didn’t livestream it

That's a good point. I noticed how he commended Tarrant's shooting. I've been reading that he was not local to the area and had to drive quite a while to get to El Paso. He wanted to attack a town closer to the border to up his chance of killing immigrants. Similar, in the sense that Tarrant was not from the location he attacked. Perhaps he didn't think enough to livestream it.
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Will this ever end?

it won't unless violent instincts are permanently eradicated from our race.

It's only going to get worse with the advent of more complex weaponry in the next decades/centuries

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It's only going to get worse with the advent of more complex weaponry in the next decades/centuries

It'll get worse regardless. Take away all the guns and you'd still have fire, knives, and cars to kill with.

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STK wrote:
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Will this ever end?
No, there's always going to be some pitiful male who is suppressed by Gynocentrism and full of hatred at himself.

pitiful white male.....
The race that makes up the majority of the population is responsible for the majority of mass shootings. How interesting.

Think about it, why is it that when a mass shooting happens, the suspect is always described as "white" or "white male". You rarely see mass shootings committed by Hispanics, or African American people to give a few examples.

Remember, Eric and Dylan, Stephen Paddock, Adam Lanza, Elliot Rodger, Dylann Roof, James Fields, Nicolas Cruz, and now today Patrick Crusius were all angry white males.
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I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but since it was so close to the Gilroy shooting and the same type of gun was used, could these be coordinated attacks?

If your theory is true, I will start calling their terror cell the scrAwny and angry white twinK klub division 47.
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