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PostSubject: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 6:39 am

Edit 1: Redacted

I would like to see a confirmation of this first.

Edit 2: I probably made the thread too soon, sorry about that. It’s just that I would like to know asap if it’s true.

Edit 3: it's confirmed


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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 7:08 am

Carnifex has nice glasses
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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 8:04 am

Is there any confirmation either way yet?
Carnifex hasn't been online to deny anything. I'm archiving just in case.
(For what it's worth, I don't really believe it. But we just had a thread on lost media, so I don't really want to add to it if I can help it . If this all turns out to be a terrible misunderstanding, I'm sorry.)


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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 8:37 am

Idk if it’s true or not (it seems the names still aren’t revealed), but imagine logging off the forum for a few days only to discover upon return that everyone thinks you are a murderer.
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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 10:03 am

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Idk if it’s true or not (it seems the names still aren’t revealed), but imagine logging off the forum for a few days only to discover upon return that everyone thinks you are a murderer.
Lol, that would be freaky: “hey guys, how’s it goi- whatthefuck”

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(For what it's worth, I don't really believe it. But we just had a thread on lost media, so I don't really want to add to it if I can help it . If this all turns out to be a terrible misunderstanding, I'm sorry.)
Yeah, it’s possible that’s just some twisted joke, or a misunderstanding… I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 10:08 am

Alex213 wrote:
Lol, that would be freaky: “hey guys, how’s it goi- whatthefuck”

That’s exactly what I thought. Haha
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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 10:12 am

How did it even come up that it was Carnifex? If he does log back on then he's gonna be in for one hell of a surprise.

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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 10:20 am

We have to wait for confirmations. At first i believed it but now I doubt it. I just hope it is not him, anyway I imagine him entering the forum and getting a good scare by the confusion about this news.
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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 10:24 am

"Hey guys, just to clarify, I am not a murderer"
I don't really believe it either but would be shocked if it turned out to be true.

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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 10:55 am

The advice I'd give is let "Carnifex" speak to clarify those allegations or the family, rather everyone jump on the bandwagon to speak for him with allegations.

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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 10:59 am

I agree. I'd rather not speculate on whether it is true or not and would rather wait until anything is confirmed or clarified.

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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 11:00 am

It is what I think, we should wait for him or his family to communicate, or an administrator that can confirm it

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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 12:42 pm

Meme in advance. I hope this ages well.
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Edit: This aged like fucking milk.


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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 2:13 pm

Well, this got out:
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It confirmed the victim name, but also said this "He was on probation for a previous conviction of possession of burglary tools, Geddis said. "
Which Carnifex Said he was to me on Discord, here is the message he sent back then, the discord name was censored because I dont know if I am allowed to put discord usernames, you probably know his discord from this fórum, but still censored the name. So here it is:
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All I got to say, is oh fuck. Like this awful. Damm.

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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 2:15 pm

If it turns out not be him, this too many similatiries either way. But still fuck.

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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 3:52 pm

Oh boy.

Just to add a small thing, I’m pretty sure that the killer was born on April 02, 2003, because of a facebook post. Carnifex said that he was born on 2003.
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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 3:57 pm

Alex213 wrote:
Oh boy.

Just to add a small thing, I’m pretty sure that the killer was born on April 02, 2003, because of a facebook post. Carnifex [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that he was born on 2003.
Carnifex said that his anniversary has on April 2 on the discord of the forum.

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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 4:02 pm

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The post about his birthday, again censor his username, because I fear that I can't the username of discord users, Deleted User is obviously not a username, so yeah.

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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 4:31 pm

About his birthday, here there's a facebook post from a relative of the killer (possibly his mother):

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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 4:46 pm

From here:
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From here:
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From here:
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His instagram is private. Does anyone have access?
Feel free to message me if you have any information. I'm trying to piece it all together.


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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 4:50 pm

Alex213 wrote:
About his birthday, here there's a facebook post from a relative of the killer (possibly his mother):

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Yep, that’s his mother. I’ve seen his father’s page too.

Also, Carnifex is from Michigan according to his profile (“Gretchen Whitler’s People’s Republic of ‘The Mitten’ ”), but I guess this info is redundant at this point.
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From here:
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His instagram is private. Does anyone have access?
Feel free to message me if you have any information. I'm trying to piece it all together.
He sent me a request and he followed me, but at the time i not accepted him because i did not know who he was.  I accept his request now but is just "pending."
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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 5:24 pm

Well here is Carnifex's YouTube channel:
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He had an another called True Crime Archives, but that was deleted, because he posted deep fake of mass shooters there.

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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeTue Jun 22, 2021 5:52 pm

@Killisaki wrote:
He had an another called True Crime Archives, but that was deleted, because he posted deep fake of mass shooters there.

Right, one where he had a few videos of TJ lane; and John Hinckley as profile picture?
I was thinking of sending him several videos I found about TJ Lane’s shooting, because I figured he would be able to tell what was rare and what wasn’t… but… yeah… maybe another time.


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Alex213 wrote:
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He had an another called True Crime Archives, but that was deleted, because he posted deep fake of mass shooters there.

Right, one where he had a few videos of TJ lane; and John Hinckley as profile picture?
I was thinking of sending him several videos I found about TJ Lane’s shooting, because I figured he would be able to tell what was rare and that wasn’t… but… yeah… maybe another time.
Yeah that was the channel. Yeah interesting, like yeah like now it is a good time to message him.

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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeWed Jun 23, 2021 12:27 am

There is confirmation, but I don't know if the person I recieved confirmation from would be OK with me posting it. Anyways tomorrow he should go to court for a hearing
That'll prove or disprove everything.

Everything matches up in the story by the way.
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This is shocking. I know that this is not important mentioning, but I often saw him changing to various photos of T.J. Lane most of the times. I thought it was weird. Now seeing that he has an DeviantArt with foot feetish and mostly disturbing, pics of underage girls, it makes me uneasy.

Rest in Peace Edward Jagst. This sucks. I will go back at reading about hermits, this is very disturbing.
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Rest in peace, Edward Jagst.  This is really sad news, I can only send my condolences to his family for this and I hope they can get as much support as possible after this. Is just very sad that this event has happened.
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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeWed Jun 23, 2021 2:04 am

All this stuff with "a forum member committed a crime" has always been so weird.


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All this stuff with "a forum member commited a crime" has always been so weird.
Agreed.  Now I find it really strange to see his publications or see the answers he have given me in some topics.  It feels even weirder to see that one of the last topics he comment on was one that I did. .  But I expected that this would happen one day.  Yet it feels weird

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All this stuff with "a forum member commited a crime" has always been so weird.
Agreed.  Now I find it really strange to see his publications or see the answers he have given me in some topics.  It feels even weirder to see that one of the last topics he comment on was one that I did. .  But I expected that this would happen one day.  Yet it feels weird
At first you take part in the discussions and then you are being discussed yourself. Remembering other forum members who have committed crimes, it seems like some kind of a very ominous cycle. =/

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I just logged on and the first thing I find out is that one of the people I've talked to on here is now a murderer. Life is strange.

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PostSubject: Re: User Carnifex879 killed his father   User Carnifex879 killed his father Icon_minitimeWed Jun 23, 2021 8:34 am

It seems as though he only graduated less than a month ago. Real shame. Condolences to his family and friends.

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Here is his Deviantart (Credit to Killisaki and Primate Murder for finding this): [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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The birthdate is only one day off of his real birthdate, and there is multiple pieces of T.J Lane fan-art on his page.

From everything I have read, according to his close friends, it seems that his dad NEVER did anything wrong to him such as abusing him. Really seems as if he killed him just because his dad wanted the best for him.

Rest in piece Officer Edward Jagst, the real victim of this case.
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He showed me pics of his guns but he didn't show me his DeviantArt for some reason.

Even if he showed me his um... "unique", uh, well... fetishes... my brother has a thing for feet so idc about the weird feet fetish. but the thing about young girls is pretty concerning tho.

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Meme in advance. I hope this ages well.
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Edit: This aged like fucking milk.
On the topic of things that aged like milk:
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(I know he may not get the death penalty but it is still a poorly aged image)

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Do you think this user will get a life sentence?
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Do you think this user will get a life sentence?

I think it's quite possible since he killed his father who was also a well respected police officer and planned to kill more people. Plus there was premeditation.
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Do you think this user will get a life sentence?

I think it's quite possible since he killed his father who was also a well respected police officer and planned to kill more people. Plus there was premeditation.

Watch the number of charges increase. His situation is very bad.

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In his arraignment it is said that the charges against him are:
- Murder
- 2 counts of felony firearm
- Carrying with unlawful intent
- Concealed weapons charge
He also violated the terms of his probation

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Do you think this user will get a life sentence?

I think it's quite possible since he killed his father who was also a well respected police officer and planned to kill more people. Plus there was premeditation.
Is there anywhere that says he planned to kill more?

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Do you think this user will get a life sentence?

I think it's quite possible since he killed his father who was also a well respected police officer and planned to kill more people. Plus there was premeditation.
Is there anywhere that says he planned to kill more?

Not that I know of, but it can be inferred that he likely did considering his obsession with mass murder. I think that he may have murdered his father as the beginning of his 'plan' to carry out a subsequent attack (whatever that may be).
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Video of arraignment:



Article explaining the situation:
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Suspect has been identified as 18 year-old Hayden Jagst; he has been denied bond. The suspect is awaiting charges of murder, carrying a dangerous weapon with unlawful intent, felony firearms and carrying a concealed weapon.


Link to GoFundMe page supporting the Jagst family:
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If he did plan on killing more people which is possible because when he was arrested he was not at his home. We have to wait until more evidence is released.

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The post about his birthday, again censor his username, because I fear that I can't the username of discord users, Deleted User is obviously not a username, so yeah.

I’m deleted user btw.Me and him have him pretty good friends since January.It’s awful to see what he’s done.

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