Books on Columbine

shades wrote:

Gosh Grant, hahahah. No ill will on him I mean I'm sure he has done good work but reading his book is more like reading an aol conversation between two teenagers

Ehhehhe, I am supposedly not the only one who is reading at the moment 

Quite a redundant question but since we're on the topic of SWAT team we don't know who's the one who moved Dylan from the actual position he was found right? Was it Grant? Grant did you move Dylan?

shades wrote:

Quite a redundant question but since we're on the topic of SWAT team we don't know who's the one who moved Dylan from the actual position he was found right? Was it Grant? Grant did you move Dylan?

I wish he would have written the exact position he found Eric and Dylan.

spinvault wrote:

I wish he would have written the exact position he found Eric and Dylan.

I know. So far there're many flaws and missing info in his book. I have more questions as I go along the way instead of feeling covered.

shades wrote:

spinvault wrote:

I wish he would have written the exact position he found Eric and Dylan.

I know. So far there're many flaws and missing info in his book. I have more questions as I go along the way instead of feeling covered.

I was hopeful that the book would be more informative, but I am getting more questions than answers so far.

I feel like I'm just reading grant's anger and attempt at suspense rather than much needed information that would make his book valid.

Interesting to read that they only sent one medic up with no kit to help Dave Sanders, and then told SWAT without even checking his pulse that he was dead.

My favorite book on columbine is No Easy Answers because it's very well written and a fascinating book.

The book just felt real and personal which is what I like, I like hearing from the perspective of someone who knew them as well as know others affected by what they did.

I tried getting into Columbine by Dave Cullen, but it just felt too fictional and not real when reading it, I understand wanting to describe things in detail, but Dave just went on and on about shit for too long.

I heard that Dave's book has a ton of misinformation and sheer ignorance all over the book which isn't good for people new to columbine research.

I also laughed at parts primarely chapter 7 since it talked about the begining of eric and brooks falling out and some of the shit eric does as well as his reactions are golden.

It was so fuckin funny, i wished he would've recorded it since it was so priceless, i would've loved to see eric pissed off over something trivial as a backpack.

Anyways, I highly recommend you check it out, it's really fuckin good.

One book i loved alot that talks quite alot about columbine, as well as other school shootings is Why kids kill, it is a good book to read if you're interested in mental health, as well as school shootings.

I never thought about the things Peter says about Eric and Dylan, i never thought about the majority of things he hated were a block of his progress, i never knew eric had surgery and had a metal plate in his chest.

It was just facinating.

Reading it was just as enjoyable and fascinating as the serial killer files because both go into a ton of detail about these people.

I think you all should check it out, it's an amazing.

Juicy Jazzy wrote:

Interesting to read that they only sent one medic up with no kit to help Dave Sanders, and then told SWAT without even checking his pulse that he was dead.

This was the only thing that I have learned so far from Grant's book. One medic alone in scrubs with no gear to protect him and no medical kit. What the heck did they expect that guy to do?

I just read the free sample of Walking in Daniel's Shoes by Tom Mauser. I can't imagine the emotion,anxiety and heartbreak the families of the victims experienced. And JEFFCO police was so insensitive having them wait for the last promised bus that would never arrive,asking them what their child was wearing that day, and even asking the Mausers for Daniel's dental records but telling them they no information and the investigation was continuing. It boggles my mind. Good sample will probably get the entire book soon.

spinvault wrote:

I just read the free sample of Walking in Daniel's Shoes by Tom Mauser. I can't imagine the emotion,anxiety and heartbreak the families of the victims experienced. And JEFFCO police was so insensitive having them wait for the last promised bus that would never arrive,asking them what their child was wearing that day, and even asking the Mausers for Daniel's dental records but telling them they no information and the investigation was continuing. It boggles my mind. Good sample will probably get the entire book soon.

I have a pdf if you want it

Lizpuff wrote:

I have a pdf if you want it

Gasp I want it. Pm me!

Lizpuff wrote:

spinvault wrote:

I just read the free sample of Walking in Daniel's Shoes by Tom Mauser. I can't imagine the emotion,anxiety and heartbreak the families of the victims experienced. And JEFFCO police was so insensitive having them wait for the last promised bus that would never arrive,asking them what their child was wearing that day, and even asking the Mausers for Daniel's dental records but telling them they no information and the investigation was continuing. It boggles my mind. Good sample will probably get the entire book soon.

I have a pdf if you want it

What is a pdf?Sorry, I am an idiot when it comes to computers and technology.

I will PM you both

I am reading the book "Walking in Daniel's Shoes" by Tom Mauser. I can't imagine the deep emotions sorrow and grief the victims' families experienced.I don't think I have the strength they have - I couldn't have closed the casket lid as he did. All the funerals I have been to, the funeral director always closed the casket after everyone had filed passed. Also listening to the audio tape and hearing Eric taunt Daniel then shoot at 11:34:54 and 11:34:57 would have been more than I could have handled. Just out of curiosity,does anyone know if that was a tape that JEFFCO only allowed certain people to hear and not available to the public much like the basement tapes. A good book about a parent's grief and the days and years after that tragic day.

Thanks for the info. I am not sure I would want to hear the entire tape. I can't imagine hearing your child be taunted and shot and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

I've as books on Columbine
1) No easy answer by Rob Merrit and Brooks Brown. Really loved it!!!

2) Columbine, a true crime story by Jeff Kass. It's a pretty good book about Columbine.
3) Rachel tears by Beth Nimmo and Darrell Scott .. This book has written by Rachel' parents and her siblings and friends
4) Rachel smiles too it's a good book
5. "A Mother's Reckoning" by Sue Klebold
6. Columbine by Dave Cullen

The only books on Columbine I have read are Columbine A True Crime Story, and A Teenage Philosophy Of Awareness and Existence: Analysis of the Columbine Shooters' Worldview

I do want to eventually read No Easy Answers and Columbine: Evidence Ignored