Table of mass murderer influences

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eyutytuheu wrote:

Adam Lanza | presumably all of them because he wanted to beat all of them

For what it's worth, this is what the FBI BAU had to say about that hypothesis.
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Adam was undoubtedly influenced by previous shooters in some way (and some investigators believe that he was focused on trying to learn from their techniques and mistakes) but ultimately, the BAU didn't seem convinced that he was trying to "outscore" anyone, as it had been reported early on after his spreadsheet was discovered. Despite some early statements in the media suggesting that it was a "scorecard" of sorts, Adam described the spreadsheet as a research tool to assist in "answering statistical questions."

The absence of evidence does not definitively prove that he did not view the attack as a competition but this is what they said in their summary.

Edit: Here's a useful document that covers the subject of the thread.
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(Thanks to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] for linking it in another thread a while ago.)

The last page has a chart that shows how one attacker influences the next, beginning with Columbine.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] those are all intriguing. I'd like the people who visit this thread to scroll down to see all of that.

Actually most killers draw some kind of influence from each other.

The reason Eric/Dylan may have had more influence is because of all the media around their case.

eyutytuheu wrote:

Jose Reyes | Eric and Dylan
Chris Harper-Mercer | Elliot Rodger
Jesse Osborne | Adam Lanza

Jose Reyes also admired Kip Kinkel, Barry Loukaitis, and T.J Lane
Mercer also liked Adam Lanza, Eric and Dylan, Vester Flannagan, Seung Hui Cho
Jesse also researched Eric and Dylan, Seung Hui Cho, and other mass shooters

Pekka Eric Auvinen mentioned in his videos:
Ted Kaczynski
Eric Robert Rudolf
Franz Fuchs
Jeff Weise
Eric and Dylan
Robert Steinhauser
Charles Whitman
James Oliver Huberty
Seung Hui Cho
Timothy McVeigh
Graham Young
Jeffrey Dahmer
Ted Bundy
9/11 attackers
Moscow Theater Siege attackers

Alvaro Castillo probably hoped he could have beaten columbine as well at least he was very obsessed with it.
Nikolas Cruz apparently mentioned elliot rodger on youtube.

TheOne99 wrote:

Jose Reyes also admired Kip Kinkel, Barry Loukaitis, and T.J Lane
Mercer also liked Adam Lanza, Eric and Dylan, Vester Flannagan, Seung Hui Cho
Jesse also researched Eric and Dylan, Seung Hui Cho, and other mass shooters

Thanks. I'll update.

Omar Mateen mentioned the Boston Marathon Bombers in his 911 call so im guessing he looked up to them

Alek Minassian was inspired by Eliott Roger.

Nikolas Cruz | Elliot Rodger, Eric and Dylan, Charles Whitman

Sebastian Bosse |Eric and Dylan, Jeff Weise, Kimveer Gill

Dimitrios Pagourtzis | Eric and Dylan

No Shooter has been influenced by Martin Bryant or Michael Ryan.

Ziamber II wrote:

No Shooter has been influenced by Martin Bryant or Michael Ryan.

They're not really that known sadly.

Martin Byrant was influenced by Thomas Hamilton.

Raoul Moat could have been motivated by Derrick Bird as the Shootings happened within 5 weeks of each other, and they changed the way people thought about everything.

Tommy QTR wrote:

Sebastian Bosse |Eric and Dylan, Jeff Weise, Kimveer Gill

Also Kip Kinkel

TheOne99 wrote:

Omar Mateen mentioned the Boston Marathon Bombers in his 911 call so im guessing he looked up to them

Absolutely. I forgot about that, thanks. He called Tamerlan his homeboy.

Tommy QTR wrote:

Nikolas Cruz | Elliot Rodger, Eric and Dylan, Charles Whitman

Oh yeah. His youtube comment was under a texas tower shooting video. Thanks.

Ziamber II wrote:

Raoul Moat could have been motivated by Derrick Bird as the Shootings happened within 5 weeks of each other, and they changed the way people thought about everything.

I don't think he was, in my opinion he commit his shooting just because he hated the police and his ex told him that her current boyfriend was a police officer, making him finally snap and want revenge.

Tommy QTR wrote:

Ziamber II wrote:

No Shooter has been influenced by Martin Bryant or Michael Ryan.

They're not really that known sadly.

You'd think that there'd be someone out there who would want to outdo Bryant's very goofy mannerisms.

Nikolas Cruz also looked up to Marc Lepine

QuestionMark wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

Ziamber II wrote:

No Shooter has been influenced by Martin Bryant or Michael Ryan.

They're not really that known sadly.

You'd think that there'd be someone out there who would want to outdo Bryant's very goofy mannerisms.

The videos of Nikolas Cruz come close.

TheOne99 wrote:

Nikolas Cruz also looked up to Marc Lepine

Really? Was this on one of his many alleged YouTube comments or something else?

QuestionMark wrote:

TheOne99 wrote:

Nikolas Cruz also looked up to Marc Lepine

Really? Was this on one of his many alleged YouTube comments or something else?

Yes he commented on the shooting scene in the movie Polytechnic

Ziamber II wrote:

No Shooter has been influenced by Martin Bryant or Michael Ryan.

No, but both were influenced by Julian Knight. The influence he had on Michael Ryan was more direct, they both did their shooting the same year, but apparently Martin Bryant asked what Knight pleaded. At the very least both were aware of Knight.

QuestionMark wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

Ziamber II wrote:

No Shooter has been influenced by Martin Bryant or Michael Ryan.

They're not really that known sadly.

You'd think that there'd be someone out there who would want to outdo Bryant's very goofy mannerisms.

I agree, it's a shame the Australian documentary of the police interview has been taken offline.

log_1987 wrote:

Ziamber II wrote:

No Shooter has been influenced by Martin Bryant or Michael Ryan.

No, but both were influenced by Julian Knight. The influence he had on Michael Ryan was more direct, they both did their shooting the same year, but apparently Martin Bryant asked what Knight pleaded. At the very least both were aware of Knight.

We have no way of knowing if Michael Ryan was influenced by Knight, however i do believe the images of Knight's shooting and news coverage of said shooting flashed through Ryan's mind the moment after he shot his dog and thus was a major factor in causing him to decide to carry out a rampage shooting. But like i say, we can never truly know.

Omar Mateen also praised the fort hood shooter

Tim kretschmer may have looked up to Robert steinhauser

TheOne99 wrote:

Tim kretschmer may have looked up to Robert steinhauser

According to the PDF that [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] provided,

Peter Langman wrote:

Kretschmer, like Steinhäuser, was a German school shooter. Kretschmer wrote an essay for school about Steinhäuser’s shooting; whether he was given this topic to write on or chose it himself is unknown.

I think Robert Sartin was influenced by Michael Ryan.

Frank Vitkovic was definitely inspired by Julian Knight.

Carter Boyles aka Bob8466 on youtube, despite not shooting anyone and just killing himself (And him also being a friend of mine from 2015 to 2016) May have been inspired or looked up to:
-Seung Hui Cho (Cho was his profile picture)
-Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold
-Patrick Sherril
-La Louche shooter
-Pekka Eric Auvinen
-Matti Saari
-Anton Lundin Petersson
-Eric Houston
-Sebastian Bosse
-Martin Bryant
-Marc Lepine
-Alvaro Castillo
-Omar Mateen
-Elliot Rodger

TheOne99 wrote:

Carter Boyles aka Bob8466 on youtube, despite not shooting anyone and just killing himself (And him also being a friend of mine from 2015 to 2016) May have been inspired or looked up to:
-Seung Hui Cho (Cho was his profile picture)
-Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold
-Patrick Sherril
-La Louche shooter
-Pekka Eric Auvinen
-Matti Saari
-Anton Lundin Petersson
-Eric Houston
-Sebastian Bosse
-Martin Bryant
-Marc Lepine
-Alvaro Castillo
-Omar Mateen
-Elliot Rodger

I presume that this is because he talked about each of these shooters at least once?

QuestionMark wrote:

TheOne99 wrote:

Carter Boyles aka Bob8466 on youtube, despite not shooting anyone and just killing himself (And him also being a friend of mine from 2015 to 2016) May have been inspired or looked up to:
-Seung Hui Cho (Cho was his profile picture)
-Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold
-Patrick Sherril
-La Louche shooter
-Pekka Eric Auvinen
-Matti Saari
-Anton Lundin Petersson
-Eric Houston
-Sebastian Bosse
-Martin Bryant
-Marc Lepine
-Alvaro Castillo
-Omar Mateen
-Elliot Rodger

I presume that this is because he talked about each of these shooters at least once?

yea either they were in his videos or in his liked ones

InsaneIntruder wrote:

TheOne99 wrote:

Tim kretschmer may have looked up to Robert steinhauser

According to the PDF that [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] provided,

Peter Langman wrote:

Kretschmer, like Steinhäuser, was a German school shooter. Kretschmer wrote an essay for school about Steinhäuser’s shooting; whether he was given this topic to write on or chose it himself is unknown.

I read another thread on this forum on Tim K. and the person who posted it mentions what seems to be a document of some sort where it says Tims German and Ethnics teacher made the class write about the topic 'Tougher gun laws, yes or no?' where Tim mentioned in the essay about computer games, Erfurt, and reaction of mass shootings by the state

Also Tim Kretschmer may have research the Emsdetten school shooting

Jose Reyes Also looked up Clay Allen Duke, the florida school board shooter

Jennifer San Marco, mentioned David Berkowitz in her writings

Vester Flanagan mentioned E&D and Cho in his Manifesto.

Alexandre Bissonnette | Dylann Roof, Marc Lepine

Richard Durn | Baruch Goldstein

George Hennard | James Huberty

Although a failed mass shooter, Ryan Schallenberger wrote in a note that he praised Eric and Dylan, along with Steven Kazmierczack

Jose Reyes may have also looked up to Charles Andrew Williams, in the bullying and school violence film he watched in middle school called "Teen Truth", the trailer shows a short glimpse of Andy, so I assume he is at least mentioned in the film

Tomohiro Katō | Masahiro Kanagawa

I'm honestly surprised that nobody's credited Omar Mateen. You think an aspiring shooter would seek to imitate someone with a high body count, but I guess the religious nature of his rampage put people off.

Omar Mateen's attack featured an excellent demonstration of police/SWAT tactics in response, considering how they breached certain areas of the nightclub to allow for hostages to escape and eventually gunned down the perpetrator.

AlteRoad wrote:

I'm honestly surprised that nobody's credited Omar Mateen. You think an aspiring shooter would seek to imitate someone with a high body count, but I guess the religious nature of his rampage put people off.

It's his motive. The next Muslim mass shooter may claim to take some inspiration from him, but other than that I think his imitators will be few and far between.

Anton Lundin Pettersson - Pekka Eric Auvinen

TheOne99 wrote:

Anton Lundin Pettersson - Pekka Eric Auvinen

How was he?