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PostSubject: TCM Website   TCM Website Icon_minitimeFri May 08, 2020 1:41 pm

Hi everyone! I'm trying to remember if this was debunked, i know Eric had his website with his "You know What I hate" and Jo Mama jokes etc.. but I was listening a podcast called "Surreal Talk" and they did something on Columbine, I thought it would be about the insane conspiracy theories but it took a bit of a Cullen turn, once they started to talk about how Eric and Dylan were the most popular kids in school I had to fast forward. Further in the episode though they were reading from what they called the Trench Coat Mafia website and stated Eric wrote about drinking cough syrup and how his dad helped him with building things and how his dad's were a lot better than his.. and I don't remember that at all. Was this from a site of Eric's?

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PostSubject: Re: TCM Website   TCM Website Icon_minitimeFri May 08, 2020 3:24 pm

study After consulting Dr. Google, I think the guys in the podcast must have found this (or a similar) website:

"TLC" Webpage

As far as I know, it's fake. It's nowhere amongst the official files and it sure as hell sounds fake and nothing like Eric. Laughing


Btw. did Larkin in his Comprehending Columbine book actually fall for this site? Because I clearly remember him citing the "cough syrup" thing!  Suspect

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study After consulting Dr. Google, I think the guys in the podcast must have found this (or a similar) website:

"TLC" Webpage

As far as I know, it's fake. It's nowhere amongst the official files and it sure as hell sounds fake and nothing like Eric. Laughing


Btw. did Larkin in his Comprehending Columbine book actually fall for this site? Because I clearly remember him citing the "cough syrup" thing!  Suspect

AH! Yes, I did a quick glance at google and found a reference to it in Comprehending Columbine but I didn't find the site that the podcasters were referencing.

There is so much misinformation about Columbine and anything that disproves it using actual evidence is called "fake" when really it is them who has the fake information...

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PostSubject: Re: TCM Website   TCM Website Icon_minitimeFri May 08, 2020 3:45 pm

Yea, I just looked at it... SO Fake..

Also while Eric did talk about crashing a plane, it was specifically only him and Dylan or they were going to go live in a deserted island or something...and you have to ask, you know it would just be you and Dylan on the island, right? I don't care how much you like hanging out with your best friend, you'd end up strangling each other after a while.

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PostSubject: Re: TCM Website   TCM Website Icon_minitimeFri May 08, 2020 4:05 pm

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Yea, I just looked at it... SO Fake..  

Also while Eric did talk about crashing a plane, it was specifically only him and Dylan or they were going to go live in a deserted island or something...and you have to ask, you know it would just be you and Dylan on the island, right? I don't care how much you like hanging out with your best friend, you'd end up  strangling each other after a while.

Huh, I don't think I remember the desert island thing! Where did he say that? Laughing Eric and Dylan on Naked and Afraid! I'd give them one day! Maximum! Roll

To bad about that podcast though... as if there isn't enough misinformation out there.

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PostSubject: Re: TCM Website   TCM Website Icon_minitimeFri May 08, 2020 4:31 pm

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Yea, I just looked at it... SO Fake..  

Also while Eric did talk about crashing a plane, it was specifically only him and Dylan or they were going to go live in a deserted island or something...and you have to ask, you know it would just be you and Dylan on the island, right? I don't care how much you like hanging out with your best friend, you'd end up  strangling each other after a while.

Huh, I don't think I remember the desert island thing! Where did he say that? Laughing Eric and Dylan on Naked and Afraid! I'd give them one day! Maximum! Roll

To bad about that podcast though... as if there isn't enough misinformation out there.

I think the most accurate podcast as far as I remember was True Crime Garage. Those two do a really good job on he cases they cover though. They some dark and snarky humor too which I like.

I will try to find it, it's in his journal when he writes about hijacking a plane with Dylan... and then I swear he talks about going to an island or a country with no extradition.


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PostSubject: Re: TCM Website   TCM Website Icon_minitimeFri May 08, 2020 4:46 pm

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I think the most accurate podcast as far as I remember was True Crime Garage. Those two do a really good job on he cases they cover though. They some dark and snarky humor too which I like.

I will try to find it, it's in his journal when he writes about hijacking a plane with Dylan... and then I swear he talks about going to an island or a country with no extradition.


I've never really looked into podcats! Thanks, I'll check that one out!

In his journal or in one of his online ramblings? Because if it's in his journal I must have gone blind...

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PostSubject: Re: TCM Website   TCM Website Icon_minitimeFri May 08, 2020 4:59 pm

Nevermind! Found it! Very Happy

It's in the Columbine Report p. 26344!

Eric talks about escaping to some island or place (like "new zelend") where "Americans" can't get him. Or if that doesn't work out he wants to crash a plane into NYC to cause even more "devistation". (His spelling... Laughing )

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PostSubject: Re: TCM Website   TCM Website Icon_minitimeSat May 09, 2020 4:00 am

I thought it was gonna be a website made after the fact. EH wasn't a true TCM anyways, at least according to Chris Morris.
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PostSubject: Re: TCM Website   TCM Website Icon_minitimeSat May 09, 2020 2:57 pm

Screamingophelia wrote:
[...] I was listening a podcast called "Surreal Talk" and they did something on Columbine, I thought it would be about the insane conspiracy theories but it took a bit of a Cullen turn, once they started to talk about how Eric and Dylan were the most popular kids in school I had to fast forward. Further in the episode though they were reading from what they called the Trench Coat Mafia website and stated Eric wrote about drinking cough syrup and how his dad helped him with building things and how his dad's were a lot better than his...

Oh btw. I contacted the guys from that podcast on facebook. Told them that the site was fake. They initially replied and asked for my sources but then left me on unread when I sent them some of the official documents. Well... at least I tried? Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: TCM Website   TCM Website Icon_minitimeSat May 09, 2020 3:20 pm

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[...] I was listening a podcast called "Surreal Talk" and they did something on Columbine, I thought it would be about the insane conspiracy theories but it took a bit of a Cullen turn, once they started to talk about how Eric and Dylan were the most popular kids in school I had to fast forward. Further in the episode though they were reading from what they called the Trench Coat Mafia website and stated Eric wrote about drinking cough syrup and how his dad helped him with building things and how his dad's were a lot better than his...

Oh btw. I contacted the guys from that podcast on facebook. Told them that the site was fake. They initially replied and asked for my sources but then left me on unread when I sent them some of the official documents. Well... at least I tried? Laughing


That is awesome!! Maybe one day they will look at the documents and see they had the wrong info.

That has always been something about Columbine that perplexed me, even when you show someone proof from say the 11k they will only believe what they want.. I have a friend who is a survivor and so I take her word for things more so than others, but I also have spoken to people who were freshman at the time of the shooting who were like "I didn't know either of them nor any of their friends but I know for a fact that they were incredibly popular and had a lot of girlfriends.." I know you are a survivor and my heart is with you, but that makes no sense when people who knew them say otherwise.

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That is awesome!! Maybe one day they will look at the documents and see they had the wrong info.

That has always been something about Columbine  that perplexed me, even when you show someone proof from say the 11k they will only believe what they want.. I have a friend who is a survivor and so I take her word for things more so than others, but I also have spoken to people who were freshman at the time of the shooting who were like "I didn't know either of them nor any of their friends but I know for a fact that they were incredibly popular and had a lot of girlfriends.." I know you are a survivor and my heart is with you, but that makes no sense when people who knew them say otherwise.

Yeah, that would be really cool!

When I asked where they got their info from the answer was "mostly google, wikipedia, youtube, various facebook groups, not much else out there". I mean... that was kinda shocking to me. Pretty easy to fall for rumors and confirmation bias if that's how you're working. (I didn't say that of course.)

I guess in the end people just believe what they want to believe. Some might not care enough, for some changing their mind might be too painful. I get it, even if it's pretty sad.

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When I heard it was a conspiracy theory podcast I was hoping they would look at the actual conspiracy theories we have heard of- 3rd shooter, Wayne Harris being involved in 9/11, Walsh butt rape....

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When I heard it was a conspiracy theory podcast I was hoping they would look at the actual conspiracy theories we have heard of- 3rd shooter, Wayne Harris being involved in 9/11, Walsh butt rape....

Wayne Harris involved in 9/11?! Where does that one come from? I don't think I've heard that before!

That'd make a pretty cool podcast, but that would actually require some depth of research... I mean, I'd totally bug them again and suggest they look into that, but I doubt anything would come of it. They've actually read my last message (the one where I attached Eric's journal and his real web texts), but no reply... I don't know, should I even bother to say anything more?

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PostSubject: Re: TCM Website   TCM Website Icon_minitimeFri May 15, 2020 9:14 pm

AbbyLayne wrote:
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When I heard it was a conspiracy theory podcast I was hoping they would look at the actual conspiracy theories we have heard of- 3rd shooter, Wayne Harris being involved in 9/11, Walsh butt rape....

Wayne Harris involved in 9/11?! Where does that one come from? I don't think I've heard that before!

That'd make a pretty cool podcast, but that would actually require some depth of research... I mean, I'd totally bug them again and suggest they look into that, but I doubt anything would come of it. They've actually read my last message (the one where I attached Eric's journal and his real web texts), but no reply... I don't know, should I even bother to say anything more?

It was a really random thing from years ago

I would mention it again, but i imagine they won't reply only because they are working on other cases

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Don't forget Eric and Dylan being subjects/victims of MKUltra Laughing
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