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[Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards
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Subject: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:35 pm
Found an interesting tidbit when reading the investigative team reports.
Team 4 wrote:
Team 4 was also requested to photograph the Tech conference room, which is located on the east side of the Tech Lab Area. This had not been previously documented. It was noted that on one of the write-on boards on the north side of the classroom were the words "The skool sood bee blown u.p.s."
This is found on pg. 12440.
As Eric and Dylan visited this area after the library shooting, and were in the area for about 8 minutes, I assume that they bothered going into this classroom and writing that on one of the boards. It could be possible this was a bunch of edgy students messing around before the shooting began, but considering the spelling kind of resembles the way Dylan writes in his journal, I think it may have been them.
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Subject: Re: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:22 pm
Really interesting. Thanks for sharing this. Dylans hand writing would be easy to recognise. I wonder if he did write this? It would confirm that they were still confident that their bomb/bombs would explode some point later. Either by the clocks they set or by trying to do so manually, which they did try as the evidence shows.
This case really grips me.
Were they so confident and delusional right up to the last 2 minutes of their lives?
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Subject: Re: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:57 pm
I agree, this is a neat find! The team reports have a lot of great info in them. The "tech conference room" is listed as the "technical lecture room" in the picture descriptions, the location of which was described as being near the tech lab:
Because of this, I'd venture to say it may have been written after the cafeteria bomb caught fire during the 10min of "wandering around".
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Subject: Re: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:12 pm
Adzybear wrote:
Really interesting. Thanks for sharing this. Dylans hand writing would be easy to recognise. I wonder if he did write this? It would confirm that they were still confident that their bomb/bombs would explode some point later. Either by the clocks they set or by trying to do so manually, which they did try as the evidence shows.
This case really grips me.
Were they so confident and delusional right up to the last 2 minutes of their lives?
Exactly, details like this really show us how lost in their minds they were right until the end. I always imagined they may have had some sort of awareness on the gravity of what they were doing near the end, not necessarily remorse for their victims, but maybe remorse for their own lives i.e. realizing that they had just thrown their whole lives away all for just 8 minutes of shooting people in a library. But details like this really go to show that this whole thing was all just a joke to them. I wonder what their last thoughts were right before their suicides.
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Subject: Re: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:17 pm
Sarin Gas Attack wrote:
I agree, this is a neat find! The team reports have a lot of great info in them. The "tech conference room" is listed as the "technical lecture room" in the picture descriptions, the location of which was described as being near the tech lab:
Because of this, I'd venture to say it may have been written after the cafeteria bomb caught fire during the 10min of "wandering around".
Ah, that's right, this room isn't in the science area, I had associated it with the science area as that was team 4's area they were initially investigating. Even more interesting if this was written during the "wandering". After witnessing one of their bombs partially detonate and how little destruction it actually caused (though it would have been horrific if the cafeteria was full of students at the time), they simply reduced their destructive desires to writing them down on a white board.
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Subject: Re: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:59 am
interesting, i've never head about this. maybe they thought they were being funny? i mean it is a little but still
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Subject: Re: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:10 pm
It wasnt them who wrote that. This is the first time in my life that i heard of this alleged fact. I've been researching columbine for 5 years. Never heard of this until now.
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Subject: Re: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:33 pm
DylsTrenchCoat911 wrote:
It wasnt them who wrote that. This is the first time in my life that i heard of this alleged fact. I've been researching columbine for 5 years. Never heard of this until now.
Check out pg. 12440 in the section of Team 4's narrative of their investigation, under the heading "Tech Conference Room". This was the first time I have read of this as well, but it is directly from the investigation files. Who do you think wrote it instead?
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Subject: Re: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:24 pm
Sarin Gas Attack wrote:
I agree, this is a neat find! The team reports have a lot of great info in them. The "tech conference room" is listed as the "technical lecture room" in the picture descriptions, the location of which was described as being near the tech lab:
Because of this, I'd venture to say it may have been written after the cafeteria bomb caught fire during the 10min of "wandering around".
I actually think it might've been written before the cafeteria bomb was lit up, mostly because it's a little lame to write it out without having tried to do it first. That's just my gut feeling though, they could've easily wrote it afterwards as a meager act of defiance.
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Subject: Re: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:35 pm
DylsTrenchCoat911 wrote:
It wasnt them who wrote that. This is the first time in my life that i heard of this alleged fact. I've been researching columbine for 5 years. Never heard of this until now.
You sound like Dave Cullen
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Subject: Re: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:48 pm
QuestionMark wrote:
I actually think it might've been written before the cafeteria bomb was lit up, mostly because it's a little lame to write it out without having tried to do it first. That's just my gut feeling though, they could've easily wrote it afterwards as a meager act of defiance.
Yeah, maybe. I was thinking that once it caught fire, they figured "it's only a matter of time before it detonates", especially when, I'm sure, they heard the pipe bomb in the bag detonate about 2 minutes after they left.
But, I could see it as happening before, even though that area seems pretty out of the way. Their talking about how the "library was gonna blow up" to witnesses does lead one to believe they were putting a lot of faith in the cafeteria bombs blowing up without intervention.
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Subject: Re: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:14 pm
Take a look at page 5618-- English as a second language (ESL) teacher Jana Staloch told the investigator that "she had four students in her class that she was teaching sentence structure to when one of the students wrote on the board, 'we should blow up the school.'"
She did not give the name of the specific student who wrote that during her first interview with police, but during her second interview, she said it was Kentaro Kojima.
"Ms. Staloch feels strongly that what Kojima wrote on the board had no connection to the incident at CHS and that it was totally coincidental. She describes Kojima as a good kid but sort of inappropriate at times. He dresses normally, likes computers and seems to fit in with the norm but does things that are just inappropriate.
On May 11, 1999, I spoke with Kentaro Kojima at his residence. Kojima said that he knew Harris and Klebold from mutual friends. The mutual friends are Robert Perry, Chris Morris, Eric Jackson and Nicole, last name unknown. He said that these people were not really friends but people that he might eat lunch with. In order for him to give me these names, he had to look them up in his yearbook. When asked what the kids talked about when they were together, Kojima said that he didn't pay much attention to them as he would rather play his portable video game (Final Fantasy Seven). When asked why he wrote on the board about bombing the school, Kojima nervously asked, 'I did?' He then said that sometimes he has a violent and wild imagination. When questioned about this statement he said that sometimes he thinks of space aliens coming down and blowing up the earth. I asked him if he thought that what he put on the board was inappropriate. He thought that it probably was but 'kids say that all the time.'"
On page 5620, Kentaro indicated he was in Ms. Staloch's class in the tech lab when the shooting began.
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Subject: Re: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:50 am
mwilliam wrote:
Adzybear wrote:
Really interesting. Thanks for sharing this. Dylans hand writing would be easy to recognise. I wonder if he did write this? It would confirm that they were still confident that their bomb/bombs would explode some point later. Either by the clocks they set or by trying to do so manually, which they did try as the evidence shows.
This case really grips me.
Were they so confident and delusional right up to the last 2 minutes of their lives?
Exactly, details like this really show us how lost in their minds they were right until the end. I always imagined they may have had some sort of awareness on the gravity of what they were doing near the end, not necessarily remorse for their victims, but maybe remorse for their own lives i.e. realizing that they had just thrown their whole lives away all for just 8 minutes of shooting people in a library. But details like this really go to show that this whole thing was all just a joke to them. I wonder what their last thoughts were right before their suicides.
There is a very worrying feeling when you realise the gravity of the situation.
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Subject: Re: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:15 am
This is something I’ve never heard of before. Very interesting!
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Subject: Re: [Proven False] Eric & Dylan writing on Whiteboards Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:01 am
symbolz wrote:
Take a look at page 5618-- English as a second language (ESL) teacher Jana Staloch told the investigator that "she had four students in her class that she was teaching sentence structure to when one of the students wrote on the board, 'we should blow up the school.'"
She did not give the name of the specific student who wrote that during her first interview with police, but during her second interview, she said it was Kentaro Kojima.
"Ms. Staloch feels strongly that what Kojima wrote on the board had no connection to the incident at CHS and that it was totally coincidental. She describes Kojima as a good kid but sort of inappropriate at times. He dresses normally, likes computers and seems to fit in with the norm but does things that are just inappropriate.
On May 11, 1999, I spoke with Kentaro Kojima at his residence. Kojima said that he knew Harris and Klebold from mutual friends. The mutual friends are Robert Perry, Chris Morris, Eric Jackson and Nicole, last name unknown. He said that these people were not really friends but people that he might eat lunch with. In order for him to give me these names, he had to look them up in his yearbook. When asked what the kids talked about when they were together, Kojima said that he didn't pay much attention to them as he would rather play his portable video game (Final Fantasy Seven). When asked why he wrote on the board about bombing the school, Kojima nervously asked, 'I did?' He then said that sometimes he has a violent and wild imagination. When questioned about this statement he said that sometimes he thinks of space aliens coming down and blowing up the earth. I asked him if he thought that what he put on the board was inappropriate. He thought that it probably was but 'kids say that all the time.'"
On page 5620, Kentaro indicated he was in Ms. Staloch's class in the tech lab when the shooting began.
Excellent find! That clears that up
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