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PostSubject: Personal Reactions to CulturalPhilistine Audio   Personal Reactions to CulturalPhilistine Audio Icon_minitimeSun May 08, 2022 9:52 pm

Anyone have any thoughts or comments on the videos Adam Lanza made? I have a few.

1) I was surprised at how easily he laughed and how often he joked around even though humor did already come across as a big thing for him in his written content. I'll admit I laughed a bunch of times.

2) I was also surprised at how relaxed he sounds when he speaks after hearing the tightly wound radio call years ago.

3) Listening to his suicidal talk could undo five years of therapy if you're also suicidal and have anything in common with him.

4) He pronounces a number of words wrong which I have found to be true more often for people who learn by reading a lot and interact less.

5) He has trouble speaking and expressing himself clearly. You can see it in his writing at times and his speech can be just as garbled.

6) There's nothing psychotic in anything he expressed in his videos but he does say "no comment" when it comes to the schizophrenia online quiz.

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PostSubject: Re: Personal Reactions to CulturalPhilistine Audio   Personal Reactions to CulturalPhilistine Audio Icon_minitimeMon May 09, 2022 1:21 am

I don't know why he spared his YouTube channel when it came to his "digital suicide" I always expected something like that to get deleted by him out of embarrassment such as the 2draw messages that he attempted to delete but couldn't. It was interesting to hear his worries about someone like Nancy possibly listening in on him speaking to himself, you never got to hear much about his paranoia for prison or hospitalization. His bajillion page pedophile essay was a lot easier to sit through when he's actually reading it out. The quiz taking parts were unexpected, but were also some of the more interesting parts to me. It was a nice and personal video collection, there's much more on display in terms of his personality than ever before. What a weird thing to just stumble across, the channel still gets pretty little attention because it was deleted less than 24 hours after being found.

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PostSubject: Re: Personal Reactions to CulturalPhilistine Audio   Personal Reactions to CulturalPhilistine Audio Icon_minitimeMon May 09, 2022 9:03 pm

I also thought it was interesting that he thought Nancy (because who else could it have been, really) might be listening in on him as he was talking. Supposedly, in the last days before the shooting, she found gory drawings or pictures he'd saved in his room. I wonder if she did resort to spying on him because he was so reclusive and refused to openly communicate his feelings with her.

With the quizzes, it's interesting how he talks about having no friends or family to reach out to for support. He did, at the very least, speak to people online and had one friend in real life and he was honest to a degree, especially with the online friend about his depressive episodes and suicidality, his obsession with pedophilia/pedophobes, and his mass killing obsession. There were people who he could reach out to for support if he ever had the inclination.

I think it's also interesting how he notes that he could be doing anything he wants with his life but he just wants to die. Instead of relating that lack of action to all of the philosophical justifications that he constantly lays out for his viewers, he calls himself a loser because has no job and isn't in school. It's a weird thing to say when you think school is a cultural hellhole torturing young minds into submission. Shouldn't he have been proud of himself for resisting the cultural reward system he was born into? Obviously, he couldn't separate himself from "value" fully while he was alive.
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PostSubject: Re: Personal Reactions to CulturalPhilistine Audio   Personal Reactions to CulturalPhilistine Audio Icon_minitimeWed May 11, 2022 12:43 pm

I was thinking this morning about the part where Adam was trying to satirize conservatives with his questionnaire answers and how he brought up survivalists. Maybe a nod to Nancy’s inclinations.
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PostSubject: Re: Personal Reactions to CulturalPhilistine Audio   Personal Reactions to CulturalPhilistine Audio Icon_minitimeThu May 12, 2022 7:30 am

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I was thinking this morning about the part where Adam was trying to satirize conservatives with his questionnaire answers and how he brought up survivalists. Maybe a nod to Nancy’s inclinations.

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PostSubject: Re: Personal Reactions to CulturalPhilistine Audio   Personal Reactions to CulturalPhilistine Audio Icon_minitimeThu May 12, 2022 10:31 pm

On the outside I still can’t believe it happened. It was discovered about two days after I developed even a surface level interest in true crime, so I didn’t realize how surreal it was that it was found. I mean, 9 years after the fact, someone finds this channel with practically no views, and puts the pieces together. The feds couldn’t even find it. Did Adam want people to find it? He didn’t delete it like he smashed his hard drive or anything else.

When it comes to the context it’s just baffling comparing the person he is vs all the coverage in the news. The news makes him seem like this sort of alien creature, not quite a human being, but the videos humanize him in a way that makes his actions all the more surreal. It’s really strange to listen to.

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PostSubject: Re: Personal Reactions to CulturalPhilistine Audio   Personal Reactions to CulturalPhilistine Audio Icon_minitimeFri May 13, 2022 12:20 am

HollowPointRose wrote:
The news makes him seem like this sort of alien creature, not quite a human being, but the videos humanize him in a way that makes his actions all the more surreal. It’s really strange to listen to.
It's funny because I spent years on this forum trying to humanize Adam in a way that I felt was appropriate given the evidence, but it was hard to do with the content that I had available to me - although, maybe it's just a matter of what people want to see. There was always a ton of content available to those who cared to look at it but you're right that this really humanizes him in a way that I never thought possible.

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Did Adam want people to find it? He didn’t delete it like he smashed his hard drive or anything else.
I was just trying to figure out if we now have more content than the "Columbiners" (sorry) have available to them and I think we always did have more first hand evidence but now we definitely do. We have hours of Adam in his own words. This is the Sandy Hook Basement Tapes to some degree but not exactly on purpose.

To reply your question, I think the answer is a resounding maybe. I lean toward the idea that he didn't mind if it was found. Similar to the way that he didn't delete any of his posts from around the same time on the forum, maybe this was a statement on who he was, should anyone care enough to look:

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At the same time, Adam talks in his videos about killing himself on video, saying people like that sort of thing, and then decides against it because feeling the need to make a statement, to write a manifesto, etc, is against the entire point of what he believes:

"What else can I talk about, that's all that there is to it. It's so stupid, I think, hey why don't I record myself killing myself? People enjoy that. But I'm... doing that would not be recognizing what I'm doing. Still seeking to accomplish something is not saying 'this needs to end'. It's saying 'I need to accomplish something this needs to continue'. I don't really have anything else to say I guess. Whenever someone does have something to say it's because they've hurt theirself, or themself, whatever you grammar Nazis want to tell me. Really, think about it, any time that anyone says anything it's because of a deprivation that has been coerced onto them. X needs to be accomplished, X must be communicated, when you have nothing say, the more silent you are... the closer to death you are. And I always have been silent."

Still, he didn't delete what he recorded. I think he was hoping someone out there would hear it.

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