Columbine influence and terrorism

Do you think some Columbine copycats attacks could be considered as a terrorist acts? For example VTech massacre perpetrator described E&D as ''martyrs'' and wrote of his desire to start a revolution of ''Weak and Defenceless'', and the Jokela shooting perpetrator's manifesto was Columbine-inspired (especially by Harris' journal and his ideology) but also had strongly political themes and Auvinen actually wrote about his shooting as a terrorist act. So I believe that Columbine copycats can be divided into 1 - politically motivated (like Seung-Hui Cho and Pekka-Eric Auvinen) and 2 - edgelords without any ideology (like Alvaro Castillo).

PS Some sources define any attacks as terrorist only if they were planned by terrorist organizations, but most definitions also define any attacks as terrorist when they were committed because of perpetrator(s) political motives even if the perpetrator plans the attack alone.

I believe that the following Columbine-inspired attacks can be considered as terrorist/politically motivated:

- Emsdetten school shooting (the perpetrator wrote and talk of his desire to start revolution of school outcasts while referencing to E&D)

- VTech shooting (the perpetrator referred to E&D as ''martyrs'' and wrote of his desire to start a revolution of ''Weak and Defenceless'')

- Jokela school shooting (the perpetrator was apparently inspired by Harris' ideology of natural selection, he also described his own attack as terrorist)

- YWAM and New Life Church shootings (the perpetrator had anti-Chrstian and satanist beliefs)

- Kauhajoki school shooting (the perpetrator was fascinated by Auvinen's ideology and repeatedly cited his words and sentences from manifesto)

- Las Vegas spree shootings (both perpetrators were motivated by their anti-government and anarchist political views, as well as their Columbine admiration)

- Umpqua Community College shooting (the perpetrator had far-right political views, he hated Christians, called himself a satanist, and showed deeply admiration for Columbine, Sandy Hook and Isla Vista attackers)

- Trollhattan school attack (the perpetrator had racist beliefs and some of his online posts expressed his fascination with Columbine)

- Munich shooting (the perpetrator had far-right political views and was obsessed with school shootings, including Columbine)

- Quebec City mosque shooting (the perpetrator had far-right political views and was also obsessed with school shootings like Columbine)

- Capital Gazette shooting (the perpetrator had anti-establishment views, he studied Columbine attack online during his preparations to his own attack)

- Suzano school shooting (both perpetrators had anti-government and far-right views, one of the perpetrators was apparently fascinated with Harris' and Auvinen's ideology)

- Blagoveshchensk college shooting (the perpetrator's motive was revenge for being bullied, he uploaded an online video and talked about school outcasts revolution and E&D in this video)

- FSB Headquarters shooting (the perpetrator was fascinated with far-right attacks as well as school attacks, he also had far-right literature)

- Eslov school stabbing (the perpetrator had obsession with far-right attacks and Columbine)

- Bend Safeway shooting (the perpetrator expressed far-right misogynist views in his online journal, he also wrote that Columbine partially inspired him)

- Izhevsk school shooting (the perpetrator was an active member of Russian TCC communities, according to some media he wrote about ''school outcasts revolution'' online, he also had a t-shirt with swastika and gun chains with words ''Eric'' and ''Dylan'')

What do you think about it?

Probably, though it steps outside what is usually defined as terrorism. Usually, it's just edgelord talk though. Also, Chris Harper-Mercer seemed to hold sympathies for the Irish Republican Army.

I don't remember hearing about Taucci admiring Pekka

Engel wrote:

I don't remember hearing about Taucci admiring Pekka

He referred to him (along with many other shooters) on his Twitter account

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Engel wrote:

I don't remember hearing about Taucci admiring Pekka

He referred to him (along with many other shooters) on his Twitter account

Was it by name or a quote of his? Its been a while since I looked at his tweets so i've probably forgotten

Engel wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Engel wrote:

I don't remember hearing about Taucci admiring Pekka

He referred to him (along with many other shooters) on his Twitter account

Was it by name or a quote of his? Its been a while since I looked at his tweets so i've probably forgotten

He quoted him in one of the tweets from what I remember

i think eric and dylan were trying to wage war on the whole world, and as 18 and 17 year olds, their school was their world. i'd absolutely consider their attack to be domestic terrorism. also they were inspired by timothy mcveigh who was a domestic terrorist. as for the copycats, i agree that there are two different types. some people found deeper meaning, some wanted to kill and die ig

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Do you think some Columbine copycats attacks could be considered as a terrorist acts? For example VTech massacre perpetrator described E&D as ''martyrs'' and wrote of his desire to start a revolution of ''Weak and Defenceless'', and the Jokela shooting perpetrator's manifesto was Columbine-inspired (especially by Harris' journal and his ideology) but also had strongly political themes and Auvinen actually wrote about his shooting as a terrorist act. So I believe that Columbine copycats can be divided into 1 - politically motivated (like Seung-Hui Cho and Pekka-Eric Auvinen) and 2 - edgelords without any ideology (like Alvaro Castillo).

PS Some sources define any attacks as terrorist only if they were planned by terrorist organizations, but most definitions also define any attacks as terrorist when they were committed because of perpetrator(s) political motives even if the perpetrator plans the attack alone.

I believe that the following Columbine-inspired attacks can be considered as terrorist/politically motivated:

- Emsdetten school shooting (the perpetrator wrote and talk of his desire to start revolution of school outcasts while referencing to E&D)

- VTech shooting (the perpetrator referred to E&D as ''martyrs'' and wrote of his desire to start a revolution of ''Weak and Defenceless'')

- Jokela school shooting (the perpetrator was apparently inspired by Harris' ideology of natural selection, he also described his own attack as terrorist)

- YWAM and New Life Church shootings (the perpetrator had anti-Chrstian and satanist beliefs)

- Kauhajoki school shooting (the perpetrator was fascinated by Auvinen's ideology and repeatedly cited his words and sentences from manifesto)

- Las Vegas spree shootings (both perpetrators were motivated by their anti-government and anarchist political views, as well as their Columbine admiration)

- Umpqua Community College shooting (the perpetrator had far-right political views, he hated Christians, called himself a satanist, and showed deeply admiration for Columbine, Sandy Hook and Isla Vista attackers)

- Trollhattan school attack (the perpetrator had racist beliefs and some of his online posts expressed his fascination with Columbine)

- Munich shooting (the perpetrator had far-right political views and was obsessed with school shootings, including Columbine)

- Quebec City mosque shooting (the perpetrator had far-right political views and was also obsessed with school shootings like Columbine)

- Capital Gazette shooting (the perpetrator had anti-establishment views, he studied Columbine attack online during his preparations to his own attack)

- Suzano school shooting (both perpetrators had anti-government and far-right views, one of the perpetrators was apparently fascinated with Harris' and Auvinen's ideology)

- Blagoveshchensk college shooting (the perpetrator's motive was revenge for being bullied, he uploaded an online video and talked about school outcasts revolution and E&D in this video)

- FSB Headquarters shooting (the perpetrator was fascinated with far-right attacks as well as school attacks, he also had far-right literature)

- Eslov school stabbing (the perpetrator had obsession with far-right attacks and Columbine)

- Bend Safeway shooting (the perpetrator expressed far-right misogynist views in his online journal, he also wrote that Columbine partially inspired him)

- Izhevsk school shooting (the perpetrator was an active member of Russian TCC communities, according to some media he wrote about ''school outcasts revolution'' online, he also had a t-shirt with swastika and gun chains with words ''Eric'' and ''Dylan'')

What do you think about it?

Tbh while most attacks here are Ideological they aren’t officially considered "Terrorist". Only Las Vegas, Trollshättan, Munich, Quebec, the FSB Headquarters Shooting and Eslov are

You also forgot Robida and Achtinson

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Engel wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Engel wrote:

I don't remember hearing about Taucci admiring Pekka

He referred to him (along with many other shooters) on his Twitter account

Was it by name or a quote of his? Its been a while since I looked at his tweets so i've probably forgotten

He quoted him in one of the tweets from what I remember

He had strong sympathies towards National Socialism and was a lot more influenced by Breivik and McVeigh. He also praised Paddock

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Sorry i didn’t read your post correctly. I actually agree with you.

tellecat wrote:

i think eric and dylan were trying to wage war on the whole world, and as 18 and 17 year olds, their school was their world. i'd absolutely consider their attack to be domestic terrorism. also they were inspired by timothy mcveigh who was a domestic terrorist. as for the copycats, i agree that there are two different types. some people found deeper meaning, some wanted to kill and die ig

Yes, I fully agree with you. Columbine and some of attacks inspired by E&D's actions were definitely domestic terrorist acts.

Fun fact: Russia labeled ''Columbiners'' as a terrorist organization in 2022 in order to use it in their propaganda as an example of ''bad Western influence''.

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xDarkRazoR wrote:

Fun fact: Russia labeled ''Columbiners'' as a terrorist organization in 2022 in order to use it in their propaganda as an example of ''bad Western influence''.

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LOL the Columbiners would be such a bad terrorist org

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Fun fact: Russia labeled ''Columbiners'' as a terrorist organization in 2022 in order to use it in their propaganda as an example of ''bad Western influence''.

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wait this is actually hilarious

No lmfao, there's a massive difference between columbiner losers and actual terrorists.

vril wrote:

No lmfao, there's a massive difference between columbiner losers and actual terrorists.

"Terrorism is when a group of guys with balaclavas do shit"