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Real name was Randy Stair. Was obsessed with Columbine. Planned the supermarket shooting for months and left gigs of audio and video files for apparent fame detailing his plans and sorry life. He last logged in yesterday and killed 3 people and himself that night/early AM.
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Holy shit!! Wtf.....I'm just in shock that I've conversed with a future murderer, pretty uneasy feeling. Thanks for sharing! Is there any way someone could grab his posts/comments he made while being a member here? I'm curious Smile
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From what I recently heard, EGSandrew was on this forum actively. Can anyone give me some information on this guy?
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After reading some about him, I watched his 42 minute goodbye video on one of his youtube channels. My thoughts on it are...I don't know what my thoughts on it are.

I never had any direct conversation.
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After looking through his twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/egsandrew?lang=en )

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m wondering something. All those drawings announcing the Westborough High Massacre.

On May 31st, he wrote: ''I'm gonna be dead by the end of next week...''

How come nobody reported it?

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The same reason things go unreported all the time, the people who would have cared did not notice or nobody took it serious.
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Fuck him.
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Why does it always have to be this forum? You'd think a website like this with more mature members in comparison to tumblr wouldn't need to worry about copycats. Ridiculous. Guy obviously had some issues.
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This is the third time right? First was Adam Lanza, back on the old forum. Then there was that teen who planned a school shooting but killed himself instead, and now this guy.
Also.... dat drawing

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It's so fucked up, I knew this guy before he died/killed. It's very haunting.
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Hey kiwis, welcome to the forums!

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Take a look at guns in the picture. Hi point carbine 995 and savage 67h. This guy really idolized eric.
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Why does it always have to be this forum? You'd think a website like this with more mature members in comparison to tumblr wouldn't need to worry about copycats. Ridiculous. Guy obviously had some issues.

You're on a forum / community specifically dedicated to mass murderers. Of course a fuckton amount of the future shooters are going to frequent this site.

If someone was into cars, they'd be on a forum about cars.

Obviously hopefully a majority of this site is nonviolent, but probably 1/10 has a legit potential of being a danger to society.
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Some trolls are working on this article but its pretty informative

The shooter was a 24 year old who made some cringe-worthy deviantart and youtube stuff based off Danny Phantom but school shooter esque. Made death / suicide threats within a week of what he did. Nobody reported him fast enough.

He idolized the assholes who did Columbine, like 90% of shooters do.

He murdered about 3 people at (believed to be) his workplace?

More information is getting out so there's a lot of false info right now.
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I've only listened to an hour of his 17 hour suicide tapes. What I've gathered so far is that he is obsessed with this "ghost squad" that he created. Fictional cartoon characters who are apparently all dead and he wants to die to join them in the afterlife. One in particular, Mackenzie, he is in love and obsessed with. In love with like he was saying how he can't stop looking at her and how she is the perfect girl and he was getting emotional and on the verge of crying talking about her. He's says he desperately wants to be with her and it hurts him and makes him upset that he can't do things like cuddle with her and talk to her.

He's also talked about how he does not believe that he is really a male. He knows he is actually a girl and that once he is dead and joins his ghost squad in the afterlife that he will fully be a girl. He says he's never had a girlfriend. He's never been on a date or anything like that and since Mackenzie he's not interested in any other girls besides her. So even though he feels like he is a female but has a male body, he isn't attracted to males. He's attracted to girls. Well the only two girls he's mentioned were "Ember" (apparently she's the leader of the ghost squad. The "EGS" in his username stands for "Embers Ghost Squad") and Mackenzie. He says that he had a crush on Ember but when he saw Mackenzie he fell in love with her. And she's the one he is dying to go to the afterlife to be with.

I plan on listening to the whole 17 hours and I'll add stuff to the thread as I go along.

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Why does it always have to be this forum? You'd think a website like this with more mature members in comparison to tumblr wouldn't need to worry about copycats. Ridiculous. Guy obviously had some issues.

You're on a forum / community specifically dedicated to mass murderers. Of course a fuckton amount of the future shooters are going to frequent this site.

If someone was into cars, they'd be on a forum about cars.

Obviously hopefully a majority of this site is nonviolent, but probably 1/10 has a legit potential of being a danger to society.

We are here only to TALK about these mass shooters, we are here to see and learn how these shooters acted or how they looked like before doing these barbaric acts so we would never do the same bad thing happen again.
Alot of people talk about 9/11, are they going to hijack a plane to crash in a building? Nope.
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The shooter left a big list of his profiles:



As quoted from his manifesto,


Courtesy of his mediafire account.

"All Social Media Accounts (That I Can Remember) That I Own; All Others Are Imposters.


YouTube

- YouTube.com/EGSworld

- YouTube.com/PioneersProductions

- YouTube.com/PioneersAnthology

- YouTube.com/WorthlessToaster

- YouTube.com/FatassTVcrew (also owned by my brother, Jeremy)

- [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (Andrew Blaze account that I made to post Send Request stuff on; don’t have a custom URL for it since it has 0 subscribers on it)

Facebook - Facebook.com/EmbersGhostSquad

- Facebook.com/PioneersProductions

- Facebook.com/AndrewBlaze


Twitter

- Twitter.com/EGSworld

- Twitter.com/PioneersProd

- Twitter.com/EGSandrew

- Twitter.com/EGS_Mackenzie

- Twitter.com/EGSsidney

- Twitter.com/EGScelesta

- Twitter.com/EGSrachael

- Twitter.com/EGSharmony

- Twitter.com/EGSfroggy

- Twitter.com/EGSalex

- Twitter.com/EmberPh33r


Instagram

- Instagram.com/EmbersGhostSquad

- Instagram.com/Andrew__Blaze (two underscore hyphens between “Andrew” and “Blaze”

Fandom (Wikia/Wiki)

- The-EGS.Wikia.com/Wiki/The_EGS_Wiki (Wiki Page)

- The-EGS.Wikia.com/Wiki/User:EGS_Productions (Wiki Account)

Band Camp

- EGSproductions.bandcamp.com

- PioneersProductions.bandcamp.com (Old Account)

Sound Cloud

- SoundCloud.com/EmbersGhostSquad

Columbine Massacre Forum (If they haven’t terminated it)

- EGSandrew

DeviantArt

- EGSproductions.deviantart.com (personal)

- EGS-Members.deviantart.com (fan page group)

Xbox Live

- AndrewMackenzie14 (formerly “PioneersProd”)

Sleep Talk Recorder

- SleepTalkRecorder.com/user/PioneersProductions

Skype

- PioneersProd

- EGSproductions

- PioneersProductions

Stupid Videos

- StupidVideos.com/profile/randystair (the two videos don’t play anymore)

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He had a few other youtube channels (a few got suspended) but one had almost 9000 subs, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

He was apparently featured by Ray William Johnson "6 years ago"

Some big YouTubers commented on his videos; one of them had almost 2 million subs

So this wasnt some unknown guy, he used to be apparently normal, at least compared to what he devolved into.
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The sick thing is that the only reason he did this in the supermarket he worked at was because of a coin toss. If it had landed on heads instead he supposedly only would have killed himself in his parent's home. I'm not sure he actually would have done that because he seemed to want fame. He would have no fame if he only killed himself.

What you probably won't see mentioned in the news was that his father was the head manager of the store and that's the only reason he worked there. Aside from the one person that escaped, he didn't intend to kill anyone else and mentioned all the victims in his tapes when discussing his plan over a month ago. He said he couldn't talk to his father about anything and I think he may have chose the supermarket to also destroy his father's life.. He really shot up the place on the inside and store will be closed for some time and may even go out of business. It's a good thing he couldn't find a key to take the propane tanks because he intended to blow them up.
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So a wannabe trans with autism created a fictional universe got obsessed with it and killed himself (and others) to join it.

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Why does it always have to be this forum? You'd think a website like this with more mature members in comparison to tumblr wouldn't need to worry about copycats. Ridiculous. Guy obviously had some issues.

It's not just this forum. I'm in a group online posting gore pictures and information about murders and of note there has been at least 3 members in recent memory that have committed murder and/or rape. These types of forums or groups will attract all kinds of people, not just people trying to understand and who are peaceful.

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I didn't watch any videos but I read some journal entries. I haven't finshed yet but the most interesting thing to me so far was that he claimed to deeply identify with Eric, and obviously emulated him at times, but the content and tone was so much more like Dylan. His entire point of view is nearly identical to Dylan's, feeling separate from the 'humans,' chronically lonely and depressed and most striking, the belief that death would free him from the unhappiness of this mundane and disappointing life while part of him lives on in an afterlife where he can finally be happy with his true love.
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Ray William Johnson promoted the shooter back on June 20th, 2011.
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Hey, did anybody saw the Website of the Weis Market? It's down since yesterday.
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Can anyone post his manifesto/writtings?
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Man this shit is scary.
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Can anyone post his manifesto/writtings?

You can find links to his mediafire on his twitter, under the same handle that he used here. There is an absurd amount of content hosted there. Videos explaining his motives, shooting practice, goodbye videos, hours worth of audio, written journals.


There are even some lip sync videos. Cringe. Cringe everywhere.

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Just found out about this shooting and quite frankly have not gotten to even scratching the surface on the mountain of evidence and content that this person made. And this person was a member of THIS forum? I can't say I am shocked though, I mean AL was a member of the previous incarnation of this forum website...
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Why does it always have to be this forum? You'd think a website like this with more mature members in comparison to tumblr wouldn't need to worry about copycats. Ridiculous. Guy obviously had some issues.

You're on a forum / community specifically dedicated to mass murderers. Of course a fuckton amount of the future shooters are going to frequent this site.

If someone was into cars, they'd be on a forum about cars.

Obviously hopefully a majority of this site is nonviolent, but probably 1/10 has a legit potential of being a danger to society.

Honestly, you do have a point.

When I learned that Adam Lanza had been a member of the old board:
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...it shook me up pretty badly. But I'd always considered the possibility that one of our members might end up going on a spree, so I wasn't totally floored.

This latest news comes as a surprise, but not a shock.

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Also, am I the only one creeped out by the fact that this guy's name is Randy Stair?

Randy Brown is Brooks Brown's father and the most fanatical Columbine "researcher" in the world.
Joe Stair was one of Eric and Dylan's friends. His sister posts here as Yumeko-chan.

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I know of one other member whose comments had made me suspicious that has subsequently been banned. This member seemed to be suggesting that murder can be justified. It's not surprising that people with homocidal/suicidal feelings may identify with mass murderers in order to validate them. I've looked at the channels of people who comment on columbine-related videos on youtube and they seem obsessed with murderers/mass-shootings, guns, gore, etc. 

At the end of the day, unless members something about killing themselves or others with very clear intent, you can only ever be no more than suspicious. Unless you know the person or have some extra information about them it's no reason to alert the authorities. As an example, the Browns were absolutely correct in alerting the police after Eric wrote on the internet in no uncertain terms that he wanted to kill Brooks AND they knew him well, they'd seen him act violently towards Brooks in the past.

I don't think this forum and others like it create murderers but clearly potential murderers may be attracted to them for the abundant information that can be gleamed about murderers' lives. If these homocidal/suicidal members are given the opportunity to express their intentions in a 'safe' environment such as an internet forum they may potentially be averted.
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Can anyone post his manifesto/writtings?

If you don't feel like downloading 40+ goddamn gigabytes of data, I'm working on mirroring his videos here:

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I'm missing a lot of his videos but I have most of his gun vids up right now.

I need to get a phone number to use to verify that wingman account so I can upload bigger / longer videos though.

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Also, am I the only one creeped out by the fact that this guy's name is Randy Stair?

Randy Brown is Brooks Brown's father and the most fanatical Columbine "researcher" in the world.
Joe Stair was one of Eric and Dylan's friends. His sister posts here as Yumeko-chan.

You're just over analyzing things. Randy Robert Stair was his birth name wasn't it? Andrew Blaze was his pseudonym.
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Notable Videos of his:







TL;DR this guy wasn't super popular but he was very notable and had a following of thousands of people.
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Also, am I the only one creeped out by the fact that this guy's name is Randy Stair?

Randy Brown is Brooks Brown's father and the most fanatical Columbine "researcher" in the world.
Joe Stair was one of Eric and Dylan's friends. His sister posts here as Yumeko-chan.

I found that quite interesting as well.

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holy shit. How did i know i recognized thAT NAME?
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It gets weirder and weirder.

Joe Stair's mother and Randy Stair's mother have the exact same fucking name. Same first name, same middle name, same last name, same spelling.

They are *not* the same person. They were born five years apart.

Un-fucking-believable.

The more I learn about this case, the more it freaks me out. And I haven't even watched this guy's videos yet.

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Rev up those tin foil hats. We got a cospiracy.

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I wonder if there could be a way of flagging up people who write suspicious things? I've heard about the idea of taking someone's writing and analysing it to "diagnose" depression based on words used. In the very least you could be able to flag someone's post not just for breaking forum rules/inappropriate content. 

I'm looking through ESGAndrew's posts and seeing words like "eternity" from "but even if they do it'll be an eternity from now. X("

He also mentions "afterlife" twice from "A big question I've always wondered is if the Harris' and Klebolds' saw their sons in the afterlife" and "Way I see it is in the afterlife you can still see what happens on Earth but you can't interact."

"die" from "Just don't die...", "I'm fully prepared to live and die without seeing those tapes...and it sucks....If anything they should've released the audio."

"kill" from "I'd kill for that" 

There are other posts that seem benign but now make you wonder "I'm glad I wasn't sucked into Columbine when I was in high school. I have no idea what would be going through my head."

Yes, I'm cherry-picking here but I see some dots and I'm connecting them. 

There are more recent posts that are frankly creepy like this one "I wouldn't really understand why though, if that was the case (forced to delete everything) because he wasn't condoning or encouraging mass shootings or anything bad" Here he shows his understanding that shootings are socially unacceptable, but about 1 week later that's exactly what he did. 
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LPorter101 wrote:
It gets weirder and weirder.

Joe Stair's mother and Randy Stair's mother have the exact same fucking name. Same first name, same middle name, same last name, same spelling.

They are *not* the same person. They were born five years apart.

Un-fucking-believable.

The more I learn about this case, the more it freaks me out. And I haven't even watched this guy's videos yet.

Ok, now that is just getting to be a bit creepy!

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I cannot really understand anything. Sad and terrible.
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I've merged the 2 topics about Randy/Andrew into one thread. So if anyone is looking for the other thread about him, it's all here in this one topic.

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macks_ant86 wrote:
I wonder if there could be a way of flagging up people who write suspicious things? I've heard about the idea of taking someone's writing and analysing it to "diagnose" depression based on words used. In the very least you could be able to flag someone's post not just for breaking forum rules/inappropriate content.

I'm looking through ESGAndrew's posts and seeing words like "eternity" from "but even if they do it'll be an eternity from now. X("

He also mentions "afterlife" twice from "A big question I've always wondered is if the Harris' and Klebolds' saw their sons in the afterlife" and "Way I see it is in the afterlife you can still see what happens on Earth but you can't interact."

"die" from "Just don't die...", "I'm fully prepared to live and die without seeing those tapes...and it sucks....If anything they should've released the audio."

"kill" from "I'd kill for that"

There are other posts that seem benign but now make you wonder "I'm glad I wasn't sucked into Columbine when I was in high school. I have no idea what would be going through my head."

Yes, I'm cherry-picking here but I see some dots and I'm connecting them.

There are more recent posts that are frankly creepy like this one "I wouldn't really understand why though, if that was the case (forced to delete everything) because he wasn't condoning or encouraging mass shootings or anything bad" Here he shows his understanding that shootings are socially unacceptable, but about 1 week later that's exactly what he did.

Part of this is heavily in hindsight after knowing what he has done.

Because honestly anyone could talk like that or say disturbing things. Heck even sometimes I do on a bad day or I'm jokingly being morbid.

The root of it is that you will never know. The most dangerous potential killer could be someone extremely friendly and who speaks eloquently.

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shades wrote:
macks_ant86 wrote:
I wonder if there could be a way of flagging up people who write suspicious things? I've heard about the idea of taking someone's writing and analysing it to "diagnose" depression based on words used. In the very least you could be able to flag someone's post not just for breaking forum rules/inappropriate content.

I'm looking through ESGAndrew's posts and seeing words like "eternity" from "but even if they do it'll be an eternity from now. X("

He also mentions "afterlife" twice from "A big question I've always wondered is if the Harris' and Klebolds' saw their sons in the afterlife" and "Way I see it is in the afterlife you can still see what happens on Earth but you can't interact."

"die" from "Just don't die...", "I'm fully prepared to live and die without seeing those tapes...and it sucks....If anything they should've released the audio."

"kill" from "I'd kill for that"

There are other posts that seem benign but now make you wonder "I'm glad I wasn't sucked into Columbine when I was in high school. I have no idea what would be going through my head."

Yes, I'm cherry-picking here but I see some dots and I'm connecting them.

There are more recent posts that are frankly creepy like this one "I wouldn't really understand why though, if that was the case (forced to delete everything) because he wasn't condoning or encouraging mass shootings or anything bad" Here he shows his understanding that shootings are socially unacceptable, but about 1 week later that's exactly what he did.

Part of this is heavily in hindsight after knowing what he has done.

Because honestly anyone could talk like that or say disturbing things. Heck even sometimes I do on a bad day or I'm jokingly being morbid.

The root of it is that you will never know. The most dangerous potential killer could be someone extremely friendly and who speaks eloquently.
I take your point that not everyone who talks like that will go onto become murderers or commit suicide. But, it is revealing and in my opinion no coincidence that he used this vocabulary in the 6 months prior to this heinous act. In his "suicide note" he declares that everything he's said he meant. Despite that, I doubt unless you knew him personally you'd be able to tell what was legitimate from what wasn't because it appears he was operating under some kind of alter-ego for his online following. This type of murder-suicide was designed to create a cult-following...he badly wanted to be famous, so I do believe there could be some intentional as well as unintentional freudian slips in his posting here and elsewhere.
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macks_ant86 wrote:
I take your point that not everyone who talks like that will go onto become murderers or commit suicide. But, it is revealing and in my opinion no coincidence that he used this vocabulary in the 6 months prior to this heinous act. In his "suicide note" he declares that everything he's said he meant. Despite that, I doubt unless you knew him personally you'd be able to tell what was legitimate from what wasn't because it appears he was operating under some kind of alter-ego for his online following. This type of murder-suicide was designed to create a cult-following...he badly wanted to be famous, so I do believe there could be some intentional as well as unintentional freudian slips in his posting here and elsewhere.

I won't deny that he had everything planned meticulously especially for everyone to find and share after he's deceased.

That is so surreal to be on a platform where you indirectly discuss with people from all over the world the aftermath of your own murder-suicide.

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His channel got taken down. Yeah he had a an entire media fire file. But I guess its gone now I think. I was listening to the audio tapes. I got to 2 hours and 48 minutes. Two hours of listening to this guy but I guess I will never finish his audio tapes. Unless someone has a link??????
Man what a life listening to a weird dude talk about his imaginary girlfriend.
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His other channels are still active and have yet to be terminated. Any curious parties should archive whatever material they can:

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Man 2 gigabytes that is a lot. He should have made a transcript as a word file because word files are just so much smaller. Actually he should have not done any of this crap in the first place but If you want to reach as many people as possible you got to use microsoft word or something like that.
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