January´s Wrath? AKA Bull... theory

So i was watching a video about the januarys conspiracy and came across this comment
youtube user TruthDecay said:
"I spoke to mark taylor’s mom Donna Taylor personally.. She said it's no secret that the shooters were arrested and raped 3 months prior by a member of Colorado PD.. She also went on to say the Mark said some of the victims were shot by police firing wildly through the roof. " (i was thinking about Daniel Rohrbough who was killed outside . ) remember he was killed near the fence entry to the school by the looks of it he was running?
Without evidence it will be still a conspiracy. The only evidence a we have so far mark Taylor , Eric under drugs after January’s Eric complained he felt too normal (Probably like mark )so he took ´em off but had Luvox in his system according to autopsy report. A hint?
And Eric’s crappy drawing of the crime scene why didn’t Dylan draw this too? We need some words of Eric’s parents about this. Maybe that’s why they’re silent because their lawyer told them so? He told them maybe “it’s not worth to fight cause ur son killed ppl”? and i read somewhere that kathy wanted to speak publicly wayne disagreed he said:" its not a good idea." maybe they know more? Well Eric’s parents get shitstorms already for not getting Eric funeral ,neither claiming his remains.my thought about this : how would u react if ppl tell u that your child is a monster? a psychopath? or you get blamed for this ?also some of the survivors died mysteriously or were killed . 9/11 much? where the witnesses&survivors started to die under mysterious circumstances...
i really wish that Erics parents had someone who would support them with speaking .
your thoughts about this?

I have always thought Wayne Harris was the reason that Kathy and Kevin never spoke about Eric publicly. I feel like when Wayne does pass on maybe that will be when Kathy or Kevin speak more. OR they may say something once the depositions are released. Many of the families said they had a lot to say but can't until they are released.

A large reason the Klebolds got divorced was because Sue started speaking publicly about Dylan, writing the book etc.

The drawing, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't even done by Eric, it was supposedly a joke that got wildly out of hand.

I don't believe they were raped. I think Dylan's anger over being arrested was the humiliation and also the fact that he couldn't get away with it. Life was VERY unfair according to Dylan and his anger and depression had been growing before that time. He felt embarrassment and setbacks more so than a lot of people.

That rape theory is so old and has been debunked.
A large reason we assume that the Klebolds got divorced was because Sue Klebold stated it herself.

Sue Klebold wrote:

The one person in the world who might have been able to understand what I was going through was Tom, but the divide that had sprung up between us in the earliest days after the tragedy continued to widen.

This is not unusual, of course. Although the statistics you’ve heard about the likelihood of divorce after the death of a child are probably inflated, most marriages do suffer immense disruption. One often-cited reason is that women and men may grieve the loss differently: men tend to grieve the loss of the person the child would have become, while women tend to grieve the child they remember.

That divide was true for us. I incessantly reviewed memories of Dylan as a baby, a toddler, a child, and a teenager, while Tom focused on everything Dylan would never do because he was dead. This focus on Dylan’s lost future chafed me, as if Tom were pressuring Dylan posthumously to fill his fatherly expectations. The things we fought about seem unimportant to me now. We were lashed together, back to back, at the center of this terrible storm, but sometimes it felt worse to be with someone than to be alone.

Our coping mechanisms were often in conflict, too. I had always been more social and extroverted, while Tom preferred solitude. The tragedy exaggerated our respective orientations. As stressful as it was to expose myself to hatred and judgment, my reemergence into the world at large exposed me to kindness and generosity, too. Interacting with other people also meant my denial could not become entrenched. An unpleasant conversation might hurt my feelings and set me back temporarily, but ultimately I believed engaging with the outside world was helping me to come to terms with reality.

While I was pushing myself to get back out in the world, though, Tom was becoming increasingly private. I wanted to throw open the doors, and Tom wanted to circle the wagons. More and more, I found I was leaving him to it.

what about the user in the comments section who claimed that he/she spoke to donna taylor (mark taylors mom) personally. i see no reason to lie. that seemed genuine to me. anyways I´ll ask him/her about that .

It just didn't happen, these kids lived their lives via journals and videos etc if it had of happened do you not think they would of referenced it in ways that weren't as cryptic? also do you not think it would have maybe changed their target etc. to perhaps a police station or at least choosing to kill the person who supposedly done this to them.
Taking it as a reliable source that somebody once talked to someone elses mum who said something is ludicrous not even speculative. these things have been looked into by pretty much every researcher including many of the ones on this board and its deemed to be a complete lie.

I completely agree that the boys would've talked about it in some way or changed their target. At the very least the diversion bomb could've been closer to the police station.

I have never put much stock into the rape thing. There is just no creditable evidence to support it. IF that had actually happened do you think E&D would have been able to keep it a secret? Also they would have likely poured out their anger and humiliation in their journals about such a horrific violation.

Eric prided himself for the Rebel Missions that he was able to get away with. This must have been a terrible blow to his highly inflated ego in that regard. Dylan could be completely embarrassed over the smallest thing, so something like this would have totally crushed him.

Both E&D hated having to be under the closer scrutiny of their parents and having to go through the Division program. Although Eric did breeze through, but Dylan let his passive/aggressiveness show once or twice.  

You have to remember these kids tried to think of themselves as Gods. Would Gods get caught red handed with stolen items? Would Gods get fingerprinted and have their Mug Shots taken, while knowing that their parents were ready to tear them a new one when they got home?  NAH!  The "January Incident" was nothing more then these two brats getting caught when they thought they were so much smarter then everyone else.

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

I have never put much stock into the rape thing. There is just no creditable evidence to support it. IF that had actually happened do you think E&D would have been able to keep it a secret? Also they would have likely poured out their anger and humiliation in their journals about such a horrific violation.

Eric prided himself for the Rebel Missions that he was able to get away with. This must have been a terrible blow to his highly inflated ego in that regard. Dylan could be completely embarrassed over the smallest thing, so something like this would have totally crushed him.

Both E&D hated having to be under the closer scrutiny of their parents and having to go through the Division program. Although Eric did breeze through, but Dylan let his passive/aggressiveness show once or twice.  

You have to remember these kids tried to think of themselves as Gods. Would Gods get caught red handed with stolen items? Would Gods get fingerprinted and have their Mug Shots taken, while knowing that their parents were ready to tear them a new one when they got home?  NAH!  The "January Incident" was nothing more then these two brats getting caught when they thought they were so much smarter then everyone else.

Agreed!

There are SO many rumors and stories that have been going on for years. The Brenda thing made it's way into the 11k AND Dave Cullens book. We all know that is a load of BS.

I imagine if that did happen Eric would have gotten a whole hell of a lot angrier and their plans would have changed. I'm not sure if Eric would have told his parents, it would have been humiliating for both of them but not to be too graphic but I'd imagine he'd have to go to the hospital after.. so someone would have known something.

The Taylors are unreliable narrators. I'm not saying I question EVERYTHING anyone says about the case, but there are people who I trust a lot more than others.

Also I would pay money to see their mugshots, maybe not money but why did they never release them?

Screamingophelia wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

I have never put much stock into the rape thing. There is just no creditable evidence to support it. IF that had actually happened do you think E&D would have been able to keep it a secret? Also they would have likely poured out their anger and humiliation in their journals about such a horrific violation.

Eric prided himself for the Rebel Missions that he was able to get away with. This must have been a terrible blow to his highly inflated ego in that regard. Dylan could be completely embarrassed over the smallest thing, so something like this would have totally crushed him.

Both E&D hated having to be under the closer scrutiny of their parents and having to go through the Division program. Although Eric did breeze through, but Dylan let his passive/aggressiveness show once or twice.  

You have to remember these kids tried to think of themselves as Gods. Would Gods get caught red handed with stolen items? Would Gods get fingerprinted and have their Mug Shots taken, while knowing that their parents were ready to tear them a new one when they got home?  NAH!  The "January Incident" was nothing more then these two brats getting caught when they thought they were so much smarter then everyone else.

Agreed!

There are SO many rumors and stories that have been going on for years. The Brenda thing made it's way into the 11k AND Dave Cullens book. We all know that is a load of BS.

I imagine if that did happen Eric would have gotten a whole hell of a lot angrier and their plans would have changed. I'm not sure if Eric would have told his parents, it would have been humiliating for both of them .
.. so someone would have known something.

The Taylors are unreliable narrators. I'm not saying I question EVERYTHING anyone says about the case, but there are people who I trust a lot more than others.

Also I would pay money to see their mugshots, maybe not money but why did they never release them?

exactly. if eric didnt draw  the crime scene  who draw it then?

Original Document From the Jeffco Production which you can confirm by
searching the web for the Jeffco ID # stamped on the bottom of the page.

 And Eric draws well.  And he does it a lot in his journals.
Now look at this crime scene drawing.
What is Eric Drawing?
A man wearing a star, walking a dog?


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Harris wrote about “killing cops” in his yearbook just weeks before he and Dylan launched their attack.  Dylan writes in his Yearbook, “ My revenge for the January Incident will be God Like”
Clearly, they´re  upset about the January Incident.
After Eric and Dylan’s arrest, they were put into a program for Juvenile offenders.
For some reason, Eric told a counselor that this was a very traumatic incident for him and  it’s during this juvenile program that Eric is put on anti-depressants.
Sheriff T.S. “Tim Walsh” is the ONLY law enforcement ever to Arrest Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. Where has Sheriff Walsh gone? Why was the criminal record of the boys buried in the original investigation? Is the Sheriff hiding something?
remember  Pat sullivans arrest ?  

Sheriff Connected To The Columbine Case Pleads Guilty To 'Meth-For-Sex', May Have Abused Underage Boys

In 2012 Patrick Sullivan, former Arapahoe County Sheriff with ties to the Columbine case, plead guilty to trading meth to male informants in exchange for sex. During the police interrogation, Sullivan "might have admitted" (emphases added based on the way he phrased his responses) to the following:

-spying on underage boys in a locker room
-engaging in sex with underage boys
-using the date rape drug to obtain sex
-trading meth in exchange for sex with male informants

Sullivan plead guilty. Sullivan is not required to register as a sex offender.

&Sullivan's ties to the Columbine case is that he was the sheriff who forwarded the drawing made by Eric Harris showing stick figures of himself and Sheriff Walsh.

heres the article
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Screamingophelia wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

I have never put much stock into the rape thing. There is just no creditable evidence to support it. IF that had actually happened do you think E&D would have been able to keep it a secret? Also they would have likely poured out their anger and humiliation in their journals about such a horrific violation.

Eric prided himself for the Rebel Missions that he was able to get away with. This must have been a terrible blow to his highly inflated ego in that regard. Dylan could be completely embarrassed over the smallest thing, so something like this would have totally crushed him.

Both E&D hated having to be under the closer scrutiny of their parents and having to go through the Division program. Although Eric did breeze through, but Dylan let his passive/aggressiveness show once or twice.  

You have to remember these kids tried to think of themselves as Gods. Would Gods get caught red handed with stolen items? Would Gods get fingerprinted and have their Mug Shots taken, while knowing that their parents were ready to tear them a new one when they got home?  NAH!  The "January Incident" was nothing more then these two brats getting caught when they thought they were so much smarter then everyone else.

Agreed!

There are SO many rumors and stories that have been going on for years. The Brenda thing made it's way into the 11k AND Dave Cullens book. We all know that is a load of BS.

I imagine if that did happen Eric would have gotten a whole hell of a lot angrier and their plans would have changed. I'm not sure if Eric would have told his parents, it would have been humiliating for both of them but not to be too graphic but I'd imagine he'd have to go to the hospital after.. so someone would have known something.

The Taylors are unreliable narrators. I'm not saying I question EVERYTHING anyone says about the case, but there are people who I trust a lot more than others.

Also I would pay money to see their mugshots, maybe not money but why did they never release them?

Isn't these the mugshots?'

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munchkinphone wrote:

Screamingophelia wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

I have never put much stock into the rape thing. There is just no creditable evidence to support it. IF that had actually happened do you think E&D would have been able to keep it a secret? Also they would have likely poured out their anger and humiliation in their journals about such a horrific violation.

Eric prided himself for the Rebel Missions that he was able to get away with. This must have been a terrible blow to his highly inflated ego in that regard. Dylan could be completely embarrassed over the smallest thing, so something like this would have totally crushed him.

Both E&D hated having to be under the closer scrutiny of their parents and having to go through the Division program. Although Eric did breeze through, but Dylan let his passive/aggressiveness show once or twice.  

You have to remember these kids tried to think of themselves as Gods. Would Gods get caught red handed with stolen items? Would Gods get fingerprinted and have their Mug Shots taken, while knowing that their parents were ready to tear them a new one when they got home?  NAH!  The "January Incident" was nothing more then these two brats getting caught when they thought they were so much smarter then everyone else.

Agreed!

There are SO many rumors and stories that have been going on for years. The Brenda thing made it's way into the 11k AND Dave Cullens book. We all know that is a load of BS.

I imagine if that did happen Eric would have gotten a whole hell of a lot angrier and their plans would have changed. I'm not sure if Eric would have told his parents, it would have been humiliating for both of them but not to be too graphic but I'd imagine he'd have to go to the hospital after.. so someone would have known something.

The Taylors are unreliable narrators. I'm not saying I question EVERYTHING anyone says about the case, but there are people who I trust a lot more than others.

Also I would pay money to see their mugshots, maybe not money but why did they never release them?

Isn't these the mugshots?'

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drivers license

now the question why didnt the cops took brooks brown report eric for threatening him with bombs and
killing him & his parents i read also that Eric said to someone how he wanted assasinate his own mother and kathy only shruged it off/laughed at it.
his parents behaviour on april 20 was weird where one of erics friends called them he said that kathy seemed calm and she said " not to worry eric´s at school". also waynes 9/11 call he seemed calm too . btw wayne sounded there more like eric himself (conspiracy dun dun dun dun...) for wayne the voice sounded pretty young though lmao

( i think he was more pissed at them because he lost his friends when they moved)

Rebbie556 wrote:

his parents  behaviour on april 20 was  weird  where one of erics friends called them he said that kathy seemed calm and she said  "  not to worry eric´s at school".

Source? What knowledge about the situation did Kathy have when she said that? It is really weird if she hears about the shooting at school and says "don't worry, Erics at School".

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Angel Pytlinksi heard about the shooting on the news around 1:00 pm and she thought Eric might be involved so she called his house. Eric's mother answered and Angel said that she "was extremely calm and stated that Eric was at school."

It's unclear exactly when the police arrived at the Harris home
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but Wayne called 911 a couple of minutes after 1:00.

It's hard to believe that they didn't suspect anything by then given the smell of gasoline in the house, even if they didn't immediately check Eric's room. I would say that the only good explanations for Kathy's behavior are denial or that she was instructed to deny it by lawyers who may have been called by that time.

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Angel Pytlinksi heard about the shooting on the news around 1:00 pm and she thought Eric might be involved so she called his house. Eric's mother answered and Angel said that she "was extremely calm and stated that Eric was at school."

It's unclear exactly when the police arrived at the Harris home
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but Wayne called 911 a couple of minutes after 1:00.

thats what i meant thanks!

sscc wrote:

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Angel Pytlinksi heard about the shooting on the news around 1:00 pm and she thought Eric might be involved so she called his house. Eric's mother answered and Angel said that she "was extremely calm and stated that Eric was at school."

It's unclear exactly when the police arrived at the Harris home
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but Wayne called 911 a couple of minutes after 1:00.

It's hard to believe that they didn't suspect anything by then given the smell of gasoline in the house, even if they didn't immediately check Eric's room. I would say that the only good explanations for Kathy's behavior are denial or that she was instructed to deny it by lawyers who may have been called by that time.

That has always tripped me up timeline wise.

Kathy may not have wanted to alarm Angel and get into a conversation with her about the shootings etc.. so saying "he's at school and not to worry" may have just been a coping mechanism. It was chaos.

The Browns police report being "lost' is a black eye on Jeffco. I still don't understand why the Browns didn't go back to the Harris's and I don't have to say again how irritated I am that Judy went to the Klebolds on 4/20 to tell them about the website. You know when that would have been helpful ANY time before 4/19 at like 9pm or so... urgh.

sscc wrote:

It's hard to believe that they didn't suspect anything by then given the smell of gasoline in the house, even if they didn't immediately check Eric's room. I would say that the only good explanations for Kathy's behavior are denial or that she was instructed to deny it by lawyers who may have been called by that time.

Agreed. I think this is why Kathy didn't want the SWAT members to go down into the basement, because they had already seen all the shit Eric had left out in plain sight.

I do not believe any part of the rape theory that has been put out there. If Wayne or Kathy had knowledge that this happened, you really think we wouldn't have heard anything about it? They would have surely taken legal action which would be public record to some extent.

munchkinphone wrote:

Isn't these the mugshots?'

Those would be pretty good mugshots

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] we wouldn’t have heard about that, because “it wouldn’t be a good idea “ cause nobody would believe them. since their son is a psychopath .(according to Cullen) and it would be difficult to convince ppl (if that really happened). I do not believe the January’s theory
either , but some points make this theory believable .
Why do you think the cops didn’t do anything when Eric made threats on his website against Brooks Brown ? Remember Eric called the incident as most traumatic event ? (it would be traumatic if he was in jail for that ) because his parents grounded him? Well this is what parents do if their kids do crap. And sheriff Sullivan who was arrested ? (he was involved in columbine investigations too)
what happened to Walsh who vanished later?
What’s up with heavily drugged mark Taylor who sued pharmacy ? (Check out some videos).
I have the feeling that the Harris know more than we think and they’re afraid to speak .

The van incident was traumatic for Eric because it involved almost getting a felony. He had to go to court and do months of community service. He was also 16 years old and was arrested and taken to a police station. I think it's safe to say it was one of the worst experiences he had up until that point in his life.

Not to mention he called the event traumatic, but that was only to adults. He very often would say one thing to parents or teachers and then turn around and completely contradict himself.

Just my two cents.

They were NOT raped.

Littlelo wrote:

The van incident was traumatic for Eric because it involved almost getting a felony. He had to go to court and do months of community service. He was also 16 years old and was arrested and taken to a police station. I think it's safe to say it was one of the worst experiences he had up until that point in his life.

Not to mention he called the event traumatic, but that was only to adults. He very often would say one thing to parents or teachers and then turn around and completely contradict himself.

Just my two cents.

This.


The boys had never really been in trouble before that too.