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Subject: Full Columbine Roster? Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:21 pm
What all particularly notable/key names am I missing in this list of everyone associated with the Columbine tragedy?
KILLERS: Eric Harris Dylan Klebold
VICTIMS: Rachel Scott Danny Rohrbough Dave Sanders Kyle Velasquez Steven Curnow Cassie Bernall Matthew Kechter Isaiah Shoels Lauren Townsend Kelly Fleming Daniel Mauser John Tomlin Corey DePooter
FRIENDS: Brooks Brown Robyn Anderson Nate Dykeman Zach Heckler Chris Morris Nick Baumgart Mike Vendengia Eric Veik Phil Duran Mark Manes Chris Walker Eric Jackson Tad Boles
INJURED/PRESENT AT COLUMBINE ON 4/20/99 Patrick Ireland Lisa Kreutz Richard Castaldo Sean Graves Lance Kirklin Mark Taylor Michael Johnson Adam Kyler Makai Hall Daniel Steepleton Brian Anderson Mark Kintgen Stephanie Munson Evan Todd John Savage Anne Marie Hochhalter Kacey Ruegsegger Emily Wyant Valeen Schnurr Bree Pasquale Amanda Stair Craig Scott Jeanna Park Diwata Perez Jennifer Doyle Austin Eubanks Sam Granillo
GIRLS IN SOME WAY ASSOCIATED WITH E&D: Susan DeWitt Sarah Slater Alyssa Sechler Marla Foust Kristi Epling Sabrina Cooley Devon Adams Sasha Jacobs Tiffany Typher Tiffany Burk Erin Boortz Tobin Kennedy Brandi Tinklenberg Megan Minger Jessica Holliday
PARENTS/FAMILY: Sue Klebold Tom Klebold Byron Klebold Wayne Harris Kathy Harris Kevin Harris Randy Brown Judy Brown Dawn Anna Townsend Brian Rohrbough Craig Bernall Misty Bernall Beth Nimmo Darrell Scott Kathy Ireland
MISC: Frank DeAngelis Dan Lab Joe Stair Rocky Hoffschneider Dusty Hoffschneider Landon Jones Any law enforcement people/JeffCo (not really interested in cataloguing them) Anybody who's written a book about Columbine (only talking about people associated with the school or community)
Okay, list the biggest people I'm missing.
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:16 pm
Man, if someone were to make a movie and/or TV series based on Columbine they'd either have to do a shit ton of condensing or hire a lot of actors.
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:22 pm
I can’t seem to see Patti Nielson.
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Subject: miniseries Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:25 pm
QuestionMark wrote:
Man, if someone were to make a movie and/or TV series based on Columbine they'd either have to do a shit ton of condensing or hire a lot of actors.
I honestly don't think a miniseries is that far off. All the big 90s crimes/scandals are getting movies or TV miniseries--Unabomber, Waco, Tonya Harding, OJ. If they do it I hope they hilariously reference I'm Not Ashamed by casting a giggly Asian guy as Nick Baumgart. I'd be watching for the late 90s styles coming back, since INA bothered to include that ridiculous Goth chick.
I wonder if Thomas F. Wilson is too old to play Rocky Hoffschneider. Yeah, probably so. Maybe Derek Mears? :-) (go look him up)
Where's Timothy McVeigh? Oliver Stone should have had a field day of conspiracy theory silliness with McVeigh's mysterious life leading up to the OKC bombing.
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:16 pm
I would say Dustin Gorton belongs on the list somewhere for being the driver in the breakfast run
Tuga
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:32 pm
Some parents of victims, most notably Tom Mauser and Ann Kechter I'd say. This is an interesting thread, one could make a glossary for Columbine.
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:43 am
There should be a columbine anime. Somebody make it NAO!!!!!!!11111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:07 am
Quote :
GIRLS IN SOME WAY ASSOCIATED WITH E&D:
Maybe also Nicole Markham. Girlfriend of Chris Morris.
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:37 am
You could also add Chad Laughlin (954) who ran Dylan's fantasy baseball league (and apparently, he also ran a fantasy football league that Dylan and/or Eric were involved in) and Joshua Lallement (948), whose number Dylan had because they used to play computer games over modem together.
It's probably questionable how "notable" these people are but they could be considered acquaintances rather than friends.
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:56 pm
QuestionMark wrote:
Man, if someone were to make a movie and/or TV series based on Columbine they'd either have to do a shit ton of condensing or hire a lot of actors.
I actually would LOVE a Columbine mini series, with every angle being considered. So long as they stuck as true to life and the proven facts as possible.
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:56 pm
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
QuestionMark wrote:
Man, if someone were to make a movie and/or TV series based on Columbine they'd either have to do a shit ton of condensing or hire a lot of actors.
I actually would LOVE a Columbine mini series, with every angle being considered. So long as they stuck as true to life and the proven facts as poss
I'd like a mini series as well but since this was a real life tragedy, it's a really touchy issue and could invite some backlash as there's a lot of survivors and relatives of people involved who are still alive. One could easily make a drama about E&D, their issues, frustration with the world and preparations leading up to the attack but the supporting cast would have to be curtailed to only the most necessary characters and preferably their names should be omitted. There's no doubt in my mind that it would re-tramautise and piss off a lot of people but it does have artistic potential. What angles would you be interested in exploring?
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:14 pm
Tuga wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
QuestionMark wrote:
Man, if someone were to make a movie and/or TV series based on Columbine they'd either have to do a shit ton of condensing or hire a lot of actors.
I actually would LOVE a Columbine mini series, with every angle being considered. So long as they stuck as true to life and the proven facts as poss
I'd like a mini series as well but since this was a real life tragedy, it's a really touchy issue and could invite some backlash as there's a lot of survivors and relatives of people involved who are still alive. One could easily make a drama about E&D, their issues, frustration with the world and preparations leading up to the attack but the supporting cast would have to be curtailed to only the most necessary characters and preferably their names should be omitted. There's no doubt in my mind that it would re-tramautise and piss off a lot of people but it does have artistic potential. What angles would you be interested in exploring?
It is Columbine so that would indeed guarantee a certain amount of hate and backlash. Anyone who would ever take on such a subject would have to know this, and be prepared for it.
Also when I say different angles, I mainly mean every side of the story that has actual proven merit in the grand scoop of what happened. I would love to hear each side of the highly debatable issue of Eric being/not being a psychopath with each side presenting evidence to support their findings.
I would like to have experts talk about Dylan as something OTHER then just a sad, lonely, depressed follower. As I feel that has been played out, and I honestly feel that he was so much more then just a submissive follower.
I would like for any new evidence such as the video of E&D planting the bombs in the cafeteria to be discussed at length. I truly wish that all the remaining evidence would just be released! The basement tapes, the full 911 call, the Harris depositions etc. I know I'm asking for WAY to much! Although I know I am not alone in wanting this info.
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:26 pm
Tuga wrote:
I'd like a mini series as well but since this was a real life tragedy, it's a really touchy issue and could invite some backlash as there's a lot of survivors and relatives of people involved who are still alive.
Can't the same be said for Waco, The Unabomber, and OKC?
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:34 pm
STK wrote:
Tuga wrote:
I'd like a mini series as well but since this was a real life tragedy, it's a really touchy issue and could invite some backlash as there's a lot of survivors and relatives of people involved who are still alive.
Can't the same be said for Waco, The Unabomber, and OKC?
I think this applies to any tragedy. There will ALWAYS be someone who doesn't want it brought back up or discussed. As some effected consider it ripping open old wounds.
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:51 pm
STK wrote:
Tuga wrote:
I'd like a mini series as well but since this was a real life tragedy, it's a really touchy issue and could invite some backlash as there's a lot of survivors and relatives of people involved who are still alive.
Can't the same be said for Waco, The Unabomber, and OKC?
Ofc, did I suggest anything to the contrary?
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:10 pm
You can’t please everyone.
I’d love to see a mini series too.
There’s another discussion we are having about the film Dawn Anna and it’s not until the end that you know she’s Lauren’s mom and she dies in Columbine.
I wonder if you could do that with Eric? Show a story of a military family, kid has health issues etc.. has anger issues and then one morning the parents come home and smell gas and the movie is actually about the Harris’s. I wonder if people would be pissed?
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:50 pm
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
QuestionMark wrote:
Man, if someone were to make a movie and/or TV series based on Columbine they'd either have to do a shit ton of condensing or hire a lot of actors.
I actually would LOVE a Columbine mini series, with every angle being considered. So long as they stuck as true to life and the proven facts as possible.
Whenever you're adapting something into a movie or series, be it a book, a game, or a real life event, there's going to be some differences between the two. If and when we do get a miniseries focused on Columbine there's going to be some inaccuracies, some of them may even be glaring to those who have researched the case extensively like us.
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Subject: patti Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:42 pm
Draw_It_White wrote:
I can’t seem to see Patti Nielson.
Yeah I blew it there. Put her under the INJURED/LIBRARY header.
I left out Brandon Larsen too. Pretty stupid of me. I'm just now finding out he was the "his jaw will be missing" kid from the Basement Tapes. Nicole Markham is a notable missing person.
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Subject: Re: Full Columbine Roster? Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:45 pm
Lunkhead McGrath wrote:
Draw_It_White wrote:
I can’t seem to see Patti Nielson.
Yeah I blew it there. Put her under the INJURED/LIBRARY header.
I left out Brandon Larsen too. Pretty stupid of me. I'm just now finding out he was the "his jaw will be missing" kid from the Basement Tapes. Nicole Markham is a notable missing person.