Columbine High School Massacre Discussion Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
Columbine High School Massacre Discussion Forum

A place to discuss the Columbine High School Massacre along with other school shootings and crimes.
Anyone interested in researching, learning, discussing and debating with us, please come join our community!
 
HomeHome  PortalPortal  CalendarCalendar  Latest imagesLatest images  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  MemberlistMemberlist  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  

 

 Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?

Go down 
+7
sscc
HuskerStorm
QuestionMark
munchkinphone
Lizpuff
Screamingophelia
04daviszoe
11 posters
AuthorMessage
Guest
Guest




Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeMon Feb 26, 2018 10:40 pm

I have read about the jocks throwing tampons covered in ketchup at Dylan.

I have heard something involving poop and name calling. I just wonder if anyone has any more details about how far the bullying went.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Back to top Go down
04daviszoe
Banned



Posts : 316
Contribution Points : 83320
Forum Reputation : 3
Join date : 2015-09-29
Age : 31

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 5:32 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Some good details in this thread. Smile
Back to top Go down
Screamingophelia
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Screamingophelia


Posts : 6437
Contribution Points : 197501
Forum Reputation : 1327
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 10:07 am

I think even if Dylan was bullied horribly (and i do believe they were bullied and there was a bullying culture)

Someone like Dylan would never admit to the extent of it. He’d be too embarrassed and let the anger fester. Better to act more as Eric’s protector than admit he gets shit too.

_________________
"And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
Back to top Go down
04daviszoe
Banned



Posts : 316
Contribution Points : 83320
Forum Reputation : 3
Join date : 2015-09-29
Age : 31

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 10:11 am

Screamingophelia wrote:
I think even if Dylan was bullied horribly (and i do believe they were bullied and there was a bullying culture)

Someone like Dylan would never admit to the extent of it. He’d be too embarrassed and let the anger fester. Better to act more as Eric’s protector than admit he gets shit too.

Yes. It's a shame we don't have access to Eric's therapy notes. It would be interesting to learn if he spoke to his therapist about being picked on, and to what extent.

anna444 likes this post

Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest




Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 10:33 am

04daviszoe wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Some good details in this thread. [smiley][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Thank you. I will definitely go check that out!

Sent from Topic'it App
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest




Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 10:35 am

Screamingophelia wrote:
I think even if Dylan was bullied horribly (and i do believe they were bullied and there was a bullying culture)

Someone like Dylan would never admit to the extent of it. He’d be too embarrassed and let the anger fester. Better to act more as Eric’s protector than admit he gets shit too.

That's true, I guess I just hoped they had maybe written about it in their journals.

Sent from Topic'it App
Back to top Go down
Lizpuff

Lizpuff


Posts : 2677
Contribution Points : 100349
Forum Reputation : 1190
Join date : 2016-03-02
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 10:39 am

Nothing detailed in the journals at least from what we have seen. Eric said he was picked on for everything his looks, his clothing. his music choices etc

While I do believe some bullying went on in their first few years of HS, I think a lot of it was over by the time they were seniors. At least the horrible bullying such as the ketchup incident

_________________
Hold me now I need to feel complete
Like I matter to the one I need

anna444 likes this post

Back to top Go down
Screamingophelia
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Screamingophelia


Posts : 6437
Contribution Points : 197501
Forum Reputation : 1327
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 10:46 am

Lizpuff wrote:
Nothing detailed in the journals at least from what we have seen.  Eric said he was picked on for everything his looks, his clothing. his music choices etc

While I do believe some bullying went on in their first few years of HS, I think a lot of it was over by the time they were seniors.  At least the horrible bullying such as the ketchup incident

I think after Rocky and his buddies left things calmed down.

Though didn’t a lot of trouble making freshman enter school their senior year?
Back to top Go down
Lizpuff

Lizpuff


Posts : 2677
Contribution Points : 100349
Forum Reputation : 1190
Join date : 2016-03-02
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 10:49 am

Screamingophelia wrote:
Lizpuff wrote:
Nothing detailed in the journals at least from what we have seen.  Eric said he was picked on for everything his looks, his clothing. his music choices etc

While I do believe some bullying went on in their first few years of HS, I think a lot of it was over by the time they were seniors.  At least the horrible bullying such as the ketchup incident

I think after Rocky and his buddies left things calmed down.

Though didn’t a lot of trouble making freshman enter school their senior year?

From what they said yes. But I doubt it was actual bullying. Sounds like kids who cut in line for lunch and liked to shout out rude things. I don't think there was any student bowling or anything like that after Rocky's group left

_________________
Hold me now I need to feel complete
Like I matter to the one I need
Back to top Go down
Screamingophelia
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Screamingophelia


Posts : 6437
Contribution Points : 197501
Forum Reputation : 1327
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 11:06 am

Was that the group that vandalized Dylan’s car? Or was that junior year?

_________________
"And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
Back to top Go down
Lizpuff

Lizpuff


Posts : 2677
Contribution Points : 100349
Forum Reputation : 1190
Join date : 2016-03-02
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 11:13 am

Screamingophelia wrote:
Was that the group that vandalized Dylan’s car? Or was that junior year?

I believe that was JR year. They did have issues with kids who would go out and sit by their cars in the lot and make fun of them as they left the building. They went to the school office for that but I don't know what if anything came of that

_________________
Hold me now I need to feel complete
Like I matter to the one I need
Back to top Go down
Screamingophelia
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Screamingophelia


Posts : 6437
Contribution Points : 197501
Forum Reputation : 1327
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 11:25 am

Lizpuff wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
Was that the group that vandalized Dylan’s car? Or was that junior year?

I believe that was JR year.  They did have issues with kids who would go out and sit by their cars in the lot and make fun of them as they left the building.  They went to the school office for that but I don't know what if anything came of that

Thanks Liz

I get the vibe that senior year it was pretty much Eric and Dylan against the world and if anyone tried anything with them they probably would get yelled at or the boys wouldn't care since their plan was in place.
Back to top Go down
Lizpuff

Lizpuff


Posts : 2677
Contribution Points : 100349
Forum Reputation : 1190
Join date : 2016-03-02
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 11:31 am

Screamingophelia wrote:
Lizpuff wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
Was that the group that vandalized Dylan’s car? Or was that junior year?

I believe that was JR year.  They did have issues with kids who would go out and sit by their cars in the lot and make fun of them as they left the building.  They went to the school office for that but I don't know what if anything came of that

Thanks Liz

I get the vibe that senior year it was pretty much Eric and Dylan against the world and if anyone tried anything with them they probably would get yelled at or the boys wouldn't care since their plan was in place.

They tried to start that "rumble" with the Freshmen who never showed up I always found that funny. But yea I agree I think by the end they were pretty much just existing

_________________
Hold me now I need to feel complete
Like I matter to the one I need
Back to top Go down
munchkinphone




Posts : 564
Contribution Points : 68014
Forum Reputation : 0
Join date : 2017-10-31

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 11:32 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

There's this one with the tossing donuts and swearing in german. It is interesting since it happened on fourth of July and I remember Dylan or Eric wrote something about fourth of July being awesome or whatever so maybe they felt like they really got those guys with the german swearing or something, I don't know.

And yeah, Jason Kirk also talks about it on page 5014 in the 11k.


Last edited by munchkinphone on Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:42 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
Screamingophelia
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Screamingophelia


Posts : 6437
Contribution Points : 197501
Forum Reputation : 1327
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 11:42 am

munchkinphone wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

There's this one with the tossing donuts and swearing in german. It is interesting since it happened on fourth of July and I remember Dylan or Eric wrote something about fourth of July being awesome or whatever so maybe they felt like they really got those guys with the german swearing or something, I don't know.

Did they work at the fireworks stand every summer or just when they were underclassman?

The boys were a study in contradictions. In one part of Eric's yearbook Dylan is like "we have great winter boots and remember when we went to the water park and got BURNT!"

then "My wrath for Januarys incident will be GODLIKE. The holy morning of NBK when the pigs and zombies learn the error of their ways"


"man summer is fun, huh?"
Back to top Go down
Screamingophelia
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Screamingophelia


Posts : 6437
Contribution Points : 197501
Forum Reputation : 1327
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 11:45 am

Lizpuff wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
Lizpuff wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
Was that the group that vandalized Dylan’s car? Or was that junior year?

I believe that was JR year.  They did have issues with kids who would go out and sit by their cars in the lot and make fun of them as they left the building.  They went to the school office for that but I don't know what if anything came of that

Thanks Liz

I get the vibe that senior year it was pretty much Eric and Dylan against the world and if anyone tried anything with them they probably would get yelled at or the boys wouldn't care since their plan was in place.

They tried to start that "rumble" with the Freshmen who never showed up  I always found that funny.  But yea I agree I think by the end they were pretty much just existing

I do too. They were trying to be all "bad ass" don't mess with us. I think Dylan was trying to perfect his rough exterior for a while (Robyn said her first reaction to Dylan was that he was rough)

I do wonder if Adam was a part of the freshman group that was causing trouble? Regardless of disability one can still be a jerk to others. Though if it is true that what Dylan said to him etc.. that was uncalled for, but if the threats were that serious I don't know why he wasn't brought it to the office and got into trouble. I get the vibe that Sue didn't know until after Dylans death.
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest




Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 11:51 am

Screamingophelia wrote:
Was that the group that vandalized Dylan’s car? Or was that junior year?

I haven't heard of that happening. Any details?

Sent from Topic'it App
Back to top Go down
munchkinphone




Posts : 564
Contribution Points : 68014
Forum Reputation : 0
Join date : 2017-10-31

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 11:55 am

TrialJunkie74 wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
Was that the group that vandalized Dylan’s car? Or was that junior year?

I haven't heard of that happening. Any details?

Sent from Topic'it App

Are you talking about this from AMR?

"Tom and I were aware of another incident. Junior year, Dylan had a parking space in a remote lot next to the school grounds. A few weeks after he confronted the freshmen, he told his father his car wasn’t running well. Tom found the hood flattened as if someone had stood on it, leaving an indentation deep enough to damage the fuse box. Dylan said he hadn’t noticed the dent. Tom asked him outright if the freshmen had intentionally damaged his car. Dylan said he didn’t know when or how it had happened, although he was certain it had happened in the school parking lot."

anna444 likes this post

Back to top Go down
Screamingophelia
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Screamingophelia


Posts : 6437
Contribution Points : 197501
Forum Reputation : 1327
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 12:04 pm

munchkinphone wrote:
TrialJunkie74 wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
Was that the group that vandalized Dylan’s car? Or was that junior year?

I haven't heard of that happening. Any details?

Sent from Topic'it App

Are you talking about this from AMR?

"Tom and I were aware of another incident. Junior year, Dylan had a parking space in a remote lot next to the school grounds. A few weeks after he confronted the freshmen, he told his father his car wasn’t running well. Tom found the hood flattened as if someone had stood on it, leaving an indentation deep enough to damage the fuse box. Dylan said he hadn’t noticed the dent. Tom asked him outright if the freshmen had intentionally damaged his car. Dylan said he didn’t know when or how it had happened, although he was certain it had happened in the school parking lot."

Yes

Was there another story about someone putting sugar in his tank?
Back to top Go down
munchkinphone




Posts : 564
Contribution Points : 68014
Forum Reputation : 0
Join date : 2017-10-31

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 12:22 pm

I've never heard anything about that.

I really want to know wether this freshman that is constantly referred to is the same person or different freshmen each time. Dylan messing with his locker suggests it's the same guy. I feel he must've targeted Dylan specifically since there's no information about a freshman harassing Eric and Dylan did the lockerthing alone.

I wonder why it seems he didn't bully Eric as well
Back to top Go down
Screamingophelia
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Screamingophelia


Posts : 6437
Contribution Points : 197501
Forum Reputation : 1327
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 12:29 pm

munchkinphone wrote:
I've never heard anything about that.

I really want to know wether this freshman that is constantly referred to is the same person or different freshmen each time. Dylan messing with his locker suggests it's the same guy. I feel he must've targeted Dylan specifically since there's no information about a freshman harassing Eric and Dylan did the lockerthing alone.

I wonder why it seems he didn't bully Eric as well

That's a good point... Eric had a few scuffles with other guys that didn't involve Dylan (Dan Lab I think) and Nate and Eric fought over Kristi but Eric didn't do anything in retaliation and Nate even wrote something nice to them in the yearbook and he was mentioned in the BT.

I think it was the same freshman person. I feel like there are people who will just target people for no reason.

anna444 likes this post

Back to top Go down
QuestionMark
Top 10 Contributor
QuestionMark


Posts : 4349
Contribution Points : 124553
Forum Reputation : 3191
Join date : 2017-09-04

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 2:24 pm

Screamingophelia wrote:
if the threats were that serious I don't know why he wasn't brought it to the office and got into trouble

I get the impression that very few of the people who were administrators at Columbine cared what the students did to each other.

_________________
"My guns are the only things that haven't stabbed me in the back."
-Kip Kinkel

anna444 likes this post

Back to top Go down
Screamingophelia
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Screamingophelia


Posts : 6437
Contribution Points : 197501
Forum Reputation : 1327
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 27, 2018 2:35 pm

QuestionMark wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
if the threats were that serious I don't know why he wasn't brought it to the office and got into trouble

I get the impression that very few of the people who were administrators at Columbine cared what the students did to each other.

I’m inclined to agree. I think it shows some of Dylan’s hypocrisy lwhen he complains about everything the jocks get away with and yet he got away with a few things too.I have no doubt the jocks got away with more.

anna444 likes this post

Back to top Go down
Screamingophelia
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Screamingophelia


Posts : 6437
Contribution Points : 197501
Forum Reputation : 1327
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 28, 2018 1:15 am

Is Chads recollection of helping Dylan clean up after the ketchup incident in the 11k?

_________________
"And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
Back to top Go down
Lizpuff

Lizpuff


Posts : 2677
Contribution Points : 100349
Forum Reputation : 1190
Join date : 2016-03-02
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 28, 2018 8:46 am

Screamingophelia wrote:
Is Chads recollection of helping Dylan clean up after the ketchup incident in the 11k?

You can find Chad in the "Outside Witnesses" section around pg 300. He was not interviewed as a friend or acquaintance. He mentions seeing Dylan that morning, the note Eric wrote in his yearbook and the fantasy baseball. Nothing about any bullying

_________________
Hold me now I need to feel complete
Like I matter to the one I need
Back to top Go down
Screamingophelia
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Screamingophelia


Posts : 6437
Contribution Points : 197501
Forum Reputation : 1327
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 28, 2018 8:55 am

Lizpuff wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
Is Chads recollection of helping Dylan clean up after the ketchup incident in the 11k?

You can find Chad in the "Outside Witnesses" section around pg 300.  He was not interviewed as a friend or acquaintance.  He mentions seeing Dylan that morning, the note Eric wrote in his yearbook and the fantasy baseball.  Nothing about any bullying

Thanks!!

I’m trying to remember where I read that Chad helped Dylan clean up in the bathroom...
Back to top Go down
Lizpuff

Lizpuff


Posts : 2677
Contribution Points : 100349
Forum Reputation : 1190
Join date : 2016-03-02
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 28, 2018 9:09 am

The only thing I know is that Chad gave an interview to Alan Pendergast which you can find on google mentioning it. But he only mentions witnessing it not cleaning as far as I can tell

_________________
Hold me now I need to feel complete
Like I matter to the one I need
Back to top Go down
Screamingophelia
Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Screamingophelia


Posts : 6437
Contribution Points : 197501
Forum Reputation : 1327
Join date : 2017-08-25
Age : 36

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 28, 2018 9:27 am

Lizpuff wrote:
The only thing I know is that Chad gave an interview to Alan Pendergast which you can find on google mentioning it. But he only mentions witnessing it not cleaning as far as I can tell

It may have been in no easy answers. Or another Chad? I think there’s two or three Chad that they knew. There were a lot of Chad, Eric’s and mikes at that school.
Back to top Go down
HuskerStorm




Posts : 31
Contribution Points : 83450
Forum Reputation : 0
Join date : 2015-08-26

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeThu Mar 01, 2018 12:56 am

What about the other side of the bullying? In Sue Klebold's book there is one brief snippet about finding out the boys tormented some other kid. It wasn't expounded upon -- I think the kid was disabled? Any more on that situation or more like it where they were bullying (before the shooting) others?
Back to top Go down
sscc




Posts : 1338
Contribution Points : 87787
Forum Reputation : 773
Join date : 2016-02-27

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeThu Mar 01, 2018 1:14 am

HuskerStorm wrote:
What about the other side of the bullying?  In Sue Klebold's book there is one brief snippet about finding out the boys tormented some other kid.  It wasn't expounded upon -- I think the kid was disabled?  Any more on that situation or more like it where they were bullying (before the shooting) others?
It sounds like you're talking about Adam Kyler. I can't post any Tumblr link for you but search for "Dylan the asshole: the Adam Kyler story" and you should find a very thorough explanation.

I just posted this in another thread but it has a compilation of excerpts about Eric and Dylan as bullies and as the victims of bullying (or "harassment" as he calls it) so it works here too.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Since I started keeping track of this subject, I've also come across a few more mentions of bullying which Langman did not include in his compilation. Not all of them are about Eric and Dylan specifically but they support the idea that bullying (or teasing/harassment) was going on and that it was often directed at the TCM members and/or perpetrated by jocks.

3106 Gattoni
Q. Do you know them personally?
A. No, I see them around and they wear the same thing every day like trench coats, everyone makes fun of them

3456 Kish
The only other comment he had was that he felt that the "jocks" pick on other people at the school.

6612 Hetzel
I asked Casey Hetzel if he had seen any of the “jocks" picking on or harassing the Trench Coat Mafia students. Casey said that he has seen the “jocks" call the Trench Coat Mafia students “dirt bags and stuff" in the hallways at Columbine High School. Casey said during the school year prior to the shooting, when the Trench Coat Mafia students were in his weight lifting class in gym, he had seen fights between the jocks and the Trench Coat Mafia students in the locker room.

6813 Lovell
He said that he had known who they were because of their dress and that other kids had generally made fun of them because of their appearance at school.
Back to top Go down
HuskerStorm




Posts : 31
Contribution Points : 83450
Forum Reputation : 0
Join date : 2015-08-26

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeThu Mar 01, 2018 7:38 am

Thanks! Not sure why I can't quote yours, but I appreciate the reply.
Back to top Go down
sscc




Posts : 1338
Contribution Points : 87787
Forum Reputation : 773
Join date : 2016-02-27

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeWed Apr 25, 2018 7:31 pm

Not a specific incident but I thought that I'd add this quote from a girl who graduated in 1998. She'd had a class with Eric but never really spoke to him and mainly knew of him because she had a crush on Kevin Harris while she was in high school.

7530 Kyler
Witness Kyler said that she was surprised to hear that suspect Harris was a member of the Trench Coat Mafia. She said she knew he had been teased and harassed by the "jocks" quite frequently, however.

anna444 likes this post

Back to top Go down
MalonsMilk

MalonsMilk


Posts : 46
Contribution Points : 63458
Forum Reputation : 0
Join date : 2017-11-03

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeThu Apr 26, 2018 1:19 pm

Not a bullying episode specifically but on one of the documentaries one of the girls (Rpbin/ Devon, who knows?) said that she was seen talking to Dylan and immediately after Dylan left she was shoved into a locker and questioned as to why she was "talking to that faggot".

It just shows how the boys were targeted and isolated from the rest of the pupils.

anna444 likes this post

Back to top Go down
Norwegian
Top 10 Contributor



Posts : 1143
Contribution Points : 83028
Forum Reputation : 304
Join date : 2018-12-06

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeWed Apr 22, 2020 6:46 am

The accounts of Adam Kyler is mentioned in the 11k documents
Back to top Go down
Norwegian
Top 10 Contributor



Posts : 1143
Contribution Points : 83028
Forum Reputation : 304
Join date : 2018-12-06

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeWed Apr 29, 2020 5:12 am

First things first, its important to keep in mind that we do not necessarily know for sure how many of these incidents are actually true. Theres a lot of mis- information about Columbine. So, its definately no way that we can say for sure wether all of these incidents are entirely accurate. The media has been good at distorting our perception of facts in this case. We can only speculate about wether they were actually bullied or not.

Two: I can't believe Im repeating this, as Im sure others are aware of this: They werent part of the TCM.

But the withness accounts are as follows:

Evan Todd and comment about 'weird hairdoes'. Now, if we read 'the search for truth at Columbine', we learn that Evan Todd very likely, in fact, confused Eric and Dylan with other people at the school with that statement. In other words, this couldnt have been directed towards Eric and Dylan.

Nathan Vanderau: Cup of fecal matter thrown at them. Ive only seen this in one documentary. I tried to find other sources from where he said this, and I couldnt find any, other than whats been circkling on the internet, plus, the documentary. So IDK wether he actually made references to the two or the TCM. I definately get the impression that members of the TCM were picked on, but they had nothing to do with Eric and Dylan.

Statements by Brooks Brown:

Chest Deformity of Eric Harris made him reluctant to take hes shirt off in gym, in fear of being laughed at.

The jocks once threw glass bottles at them and it landed near Dylans feet.

Sue Klebold:
Thrash and glass bottles thrown at them as they drove by. Dylan tried to comfort a newcomer, saying: 'It happens all the time'.

School record:

Eric once hit against the floor with a ball, and pushed against a locker.

Nate Dykeman: Eric more bullied than Dylan.


Dylan Klebold: Says jocks didnt give him much trouble, but 'they sure give Eric hell'.

Robyn Anderson: Never did see either one of them getting picked on.

I, personally, fall somewhere in the middle, here. Im highly critical towards certain statements, as I believe them to be taken out of context. Yet, I dont dispute that somewhere along the lines at least some of the harassment or bullying must me true. Even though some prominent experts have argued otherwise.

anna444 likes this post

Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest




Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2020 10:03 am

Dylan was called stretch in gym class.
Back to top Go down
Onyx
Top Contributor
Onyx


Posts : 316
Contribution Points : 53177
Forum Reputation : 378
Join date : 2019-08-26
Location : Your Eye

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2020 5:42 pm

Norwegian wrote:
First things first, its important to keep in mind that we do not necessarily know for sure how many of these incidents are actually true. Theres a lot of mis- information about Columbine. So, its definately no way that we can say for sure wether all of these incidents are entirely accurate. The media has been good at distorting our perception of facts in this case. We can only speculate about wether they were actually bullied or not.

Two: I can't believe Im repeating this, as Im sure others are aware of this: They werent part of the TCM.

But the withness accounts are as follows:

Evan Todd and comment about 'weird hairdoes'. Now, if we read 'the search for truth at Columbine', we learn that Evan Todd very likely, in fact, confused Eric and Dylan with other people at the school with that statement. In other words, this couldnt have been directed towards Eric and Dylan.

Nathan Vanderau: Cup of fecal matter thrown at them. Ive only seen this in one documentary. I tried to find other sources from where he said this, and I couldnt find any, other than whats been circkling on the internet, plus, the documentary. So IDK wether he actually made references to the two or the TCM. I definately get the impression that members of the TCM were picked on, but they had nothing to do with Eric and Dylan.

Statements by Brooks Brown:

Chest Deformity of Eric Harris made him reluctant to take hes shirt off in gym, in fear of being laughed at.

The jocks once threw glass bottles at them and it landed near Dylans feet.

Sue Klebold:
Thrash and glass bottles thrown at them as they drove by. Dylan tried to comfort a newcomer, saying: 'It happens all the time'.

School record:

Eric once hit against the floor with a ball, and pushed against a locker.

Nate Dykeman: Eric more bullied than Dylan.


Dylan Klebold: Says jocks didnt give him much trouble, but 'they sure give Eric hell'.

Robyn Anderson: Never did see either one of them getting picked on.

I, personally, fall somewhere in the middle, here. Im highly critical towards certain statements, as I believe them to be taken out of context. Yet, I dont dispute that somewhere along the lines at least some of the harassment or bullying must me true. Even though some prominent experts have argued otherwise.

I can’t imagine there is anyone who hasn’t been harassed at least once during high school.
Bullying is different because it is constant and systematic and somehow when I see all these comments in one place I don't think E&D were bullied.

When your crush doesn't pay attention to you it is not considered bullying, or when you are frustrated or bored by "normies" (or should I say "zombies") who are not thinking critically and looking at you like you're some kind of weirdo, etc.
I actually don't know what I'm trying to say Cuckoo
It is just that I don't think they were picked on to the extent they would decide to shoot up their school. This is definitely not the main reason here.

anna444 dislikes this post

Back to top Go down
Fata Morgana

Fata Morgana


Posts : 18
Contribution Points : 41523
Forum Reputation : 0
Join date : 2020-05-09
Age : 39
Location : Spain

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2020 11:19 pm

MalonsMilk wrote:
Not a bullying episode specifically but on one of the documentaries one of the girls (Rpbin/ Devon, who knows?) said that she was seen talking to Dylan and immediately after Dylan left she was shoved into a locker and questioned as to why she was "talking to that faggot".

It just shows how the  boys were targeted and isolated from the rest of the pupils.

It was Devon Adams who said that. It's still fresh in my mind because I saw that documentary the other day.

I think the bullying stuff is undeniable by now, although I believe we'll never be able to find out to what extend it really happened. However, the bullying was only one of the factors to commit the shooting. Honestly, I think the fact they both were mentally ill was a much more important factor in this case. And no, I don't buy the "cullenbine" stuff by any means, just to clarify Cool

_________________
"You want to know everything, so you never do anything" (Le Diable probablement)

anna444 likes this post

Back to top Go down
Norwegian
Top 10 Contributor



Posts : 1143
Contribution Points : 83028
Forum Reputation : 304
Join date : 2018-12-06

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeSun Dec 13, 2020 6:37 pm

Onyx wrote:
Norwegian wrote:
First things first, its important to keep in mind that we do not necessarily know for sure how many of these incidents are actually true. Theres a lot of mis- information about Columbine. So, its definately no way that we can say for sure wether all of these incidents are entirely accurate. The media has been good at distorting our perception of facts in this case. We can only speculate about wether they were actually bullied or not.

Two: I can't believe Im repeating this, as Im sure others are aware of this: They werent part of the TCM.

But the withness accounts are as follows:

Evan Todd and comment about 'weird hairdoes'. Now, if we read 'the search for truth at Columbine', we learn that Evan Todd very likely, in fact, confused Eric and Dylan with other people at the school with that statement. In other words, this couldnt have been directed towards Eric and Dylan.

Nathan Vanderau: Cup of fecal matter thrown at them. Ive only seen this in one documentary. I tried to find other sources from where he said this, and I couldnt find any, other than whats been circkling on the internet, plus, the documentary. So IDK wether he actually made references to the two or the TCM. I definately get the impression that members of the TCM were picked on, but they had nothing to do with Eric and Dylan.

Statements by Brooks Brown:

Chest Deformity of Eric Harris made him reluctant to take hes shirt off in gym, in fear of being laughed at.

The jocks once threw glass bottles at them and it landed near Dylans feet.

Sue Klebold:
Thrash and glass bottles thrown at them as they drove by. Dylan tried to comfort a newcomer, saying: 'It happens all the time'.

School record:

Eric once hit against the floor with a ball, and pushed against a locker.

Nate Dykeman: Eric more bullied than Dylan.


Dylan Klebold: Says jocks didnt give him much trouble, but 'they sure give Eric hell'.

Robyn Anderson: Never did see either one of them getting picked on.

I, personally, fall somewhere in the middle, here. Im highly critical towards certain statements, as I believe them to be taken out of context. Yet, I dont dispute that somewhere along the lines at least some of the harassment or bullying must me true. Even though some prominent experts have argued otherwise.

I can’t imagine there is anyone who hasn’t been harassed at least once during high school.
Bullying is different because it is constant and systematic and somehow when I see all these comments in one place I don't think E&D were bullied.

When your crush doesn't pay attention to you it is not considered bullying, or when you are frustrated or bored by "normies" (or should I say "zombies") who are not thinking critically and looking at you like you're some kind of weirdo, etc.
I actually don't know what I'm trying to say  Cuckoo
It is just that I don't think they were picked on to the extent they would decide to shoot up their school. This is definitely not the main reason here.


I think you put it rightly. Its questionable the extend to which they were bullied, if that was your point.
Back to top Go down
Norwegian
Top 10 Contributor



Posts : 1143
Contribution Points : 83028
Forum Reputation : 304
Join date : 2018-12-06

Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitimeSun Dec 13, 2020 6:44 pm

[quote="Fata Morgana"]
MalonsMilk wrote:
Not a bullying episode specifically but on one of the documentaries one of the girls (Rpbin/ Devon, who knows?) said that she was seen talking to Dylan and immediately after Dylan left she was shoved into a locker and questioned as to why she was "talking to that faggot".

It just shows how the  boys were targeted and isolated from the rest of the pupils.

It was Devon Adams who said that. It's still fresh in my mind because I saw that documentary the other day.

I think the bullying stuff is undeniable by now, although I believe we'll never be able to find out to what extend it really happened. However, the bullying was only one of the factors to commit the shooting. Honestly, I think the fact they both were mentally ill was a much more important factor in this case. And no, I don't buy the "cullenbine" stuff by any means, just to clarify Cool[/quo
e].

Are you sure?

I know that Im not. Because, why does Frank Ochberg say that they were not bullied?


'Bullying and revenge

We have too many bullies and too many youngsters at the mercy of bullies. But we also have a growing system of anti-bullying school programs. Despite rumors to the contrary, the Columbine killers were not bullied. There is no evidence that America, compared to other nations, has more bullies, more bullying, more victimization, and more victims who are ticking time bombs, hatching plots of lethal vengeance. However, we certainly can and should promote school programs that protect all children from stalking, hazing, and the new, evolving forms of abuse: Ostracism and humiliation through electronic social networks'.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Not saying they werent. But this causes much confusion in my mind.

Nevertheless, everything else that he says is important of course, for all obvious reasons.
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content





Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?   Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents? Icon_minitime

Back to top Go down
 
Does anyone know of some detailed bullying incidents?
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Evan Todd?
» Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold was not bullied, they actually jockers!
» Bullying Episodes Of E And D
» Bullying?
» Bullying others?

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Columbine High School Massacre Discussion Forum :: Columbine High School Massacre Discussion Forum :: Thoughts on the Shooting-
Jump to: