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Subject: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:44 am
Whats your favorite home video E & D made
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:59 am
Hmmm....
It’s a tossup between radioactive clothing and hitmen for Hire.
The role really interesting to me for different reasons. Either I laugh, or I learn more about their interactions, I kind a like the Frankenstein roast too because it’s the one just being Dylan and you can see how awkward and uncomfortable he can get.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:25 am
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Hmmm....
It’s a tossup between radioactive clothing and hitmen for Hire.
The role really interesting to me for different reasons. Either I laugh, or I learn more about their interactions, I kind a like the Frankenstein roast too because it’s the one just being Dylan and you can see how awkward and uncomfortable he can get.
those two have gotta be my favorites
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:07 am
Did you ever notice in the car wax commercial there’s one scene when it’s jusr Dylan on the screen and you hear Michelle Hartsough yell that she doesn’t like him
According to some people I remember being interviewed like Kristi and a few others they said they didn’t like her very much
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:45 pm
Hitmen For Hire is the only one that's good at all. Radioactive Clothing and Eric Inside Columbine are colossally boring and stupid.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:39 pm
I guess Radioactive clothing is interesting to me given the timeline. Eric In Columbine is boring but it gives me nostalgia so that is ok to me I guess.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:46 pm
For me it's a toss up of the Car wax commercial, and Hit-man for hire. "After all this it still retains it shine!" Then the classic Erik V. line "OoooHHHHHH"
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:28 pm
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I guess Radioactive clothing is interesting to me given the timeline. Eric In Columbine is boring but it gives me nostalgia so that is ok to me I guess.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:32 pm
There are parts of Rampart Range I like. It’s just hard for me to watch sometimes without getting angry.
Mark and Phil making jokes about e and d being in high school yet lying about it later. The camera being on Dylan while he’s loading a gun into his stomach and no one says fuck all about it ... even Eric of all people. you’d think he’d want Dylan to stay safe until 4/20
I know this may seem like weird things get mad over but I can’t help the feelings that come up when I watch it
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:12 pm
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Lizpuff wrote:
I guess Radioactive clothing is interesting to me given the timeline. Eric In Columbine is boring but it gives me nostalgia so that is ok to me I guess.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:26 pm
Lizpuff wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
Lizpuff wrote:
I guess Radioactive clothing is interesting to me given the timeline. Eric In Columbine is boring but it gives me nostalgia so that is ok to me I guess.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:41 pm
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The camera being on Dylan while he’s loading a gun into his stomach and no one says fuck all about it ... even Eric of all people. you’d think he’d want Dylan to stay safe until 4/20
I'm pretty sure everyone in that video knew fuck all about gun safety.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:49 pm
QuestionMark wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
The camera being on Dylan while he’s loading a gun into his stomach and no one says fuck all about it ... even Eric of all people. you’d think he’d want Dylan to stay safe until 4/20
I'm pretty sure everyone in that video knew fuck all about gun safety.
Well at least Phil and Jessica used ear protection once or twice... BUT other then that they clearly knew nothing about gun safety.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:19 pm
Car Wax Commercial is genuinely hilarious. Dylan's primal scream after missing the bike with the monitor always gives me the goose pimples...
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:28 pm
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Car Wax Commercial is genuinely hilarious. Dylan's primal scream after missing the bike with the monitor always gives me the goose pimples...
Yeah Dylan could yell real good.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:49 am
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AntiSocial-MasterDebater wrote:
Car Wax Commercial is genuinely hilarious. Dylan's primal scream after missing the bike with the monitor always gives me the goose pimples...
Yeah Dylan could yell real good.
I’d love to know how Eric knew this
I wonder sometimes if Dylan let his anger out in front of him
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:29 am
Screamingophelia wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
AntiSocial-MasterDebater wrote:
Car Wax Commercial is genuinely hilarious. Dylan's primal scream after missing the bike with the monitor always gives me the goose pimples...
Yeah Dylan could yell real good.
I’d love to know how Eric knew this
I wonder if Duisburg sometimes if Dylan let his anger out in front of him
It's clear he did. Probably quite a lot actually, since Eric was the only person Dylan trusted with that part of himself.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:41 am
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Screamingophelia wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
AntiSocial-MasterDebater wrote:
Car Wax Commercial is genuinely hilarious. Dylan's primal scream after missing the bike with the monitor always gives me the goose pimples...
Yeah Dylan could yell real good.
I’d love to know how Eric knew this
I wonder if Duisburg sometimes if Dylan let his anger out in front of him
It's clear he did. Probably quite a lot actually, since Eric was the only person Dylan trusted with that part of himself.
Very true. What’s interesting though is that on the basement tapes when Eric was really sad he did it alone rather than in front of Dylan. You would think that Dylan would be like oh yeah I’ll listen to you or whatever
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:56 am
Screamingophelia wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
AntiSocial-MasterDebater wrote:
Car Wax Commercial is genuinely hilarious. Dylan's primal scream after missing the bike with the monitor always gives me the goose pimples...
Yeah Dylan could yell real good.
I’d love to know how Eric knew this
I wonder if Duisburg sometimes if Dylan let his anger out in front of him
It's clear he did. Probably quite a lot actually, since Eric was the only person Dylan trusted with that part of himself.
Very true. What’s interesting though is that on the basement tapes when Eric was really sad he did it alone rather than in front of Dylan. You would think that Dylan would be like oh yeah I’ll listen to you or whatever
I think Eric hated for anyone to see him as weak, even Dylan.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:12 am
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Screamingophelia wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
AntiSocial-MasterDebater wrote:
Car Wax Commercial is genuinely hilarious. Dylan's primal scream after missing the bike with the monitor always gives me the goose pimples...
Yeah Dylan could yell real good.
I’d love to know how Eric knew this
I wonder if Duisburg sometimes if Dylan let his anger out in front of him
It's clear he did. Probably quite a lot actually, since Eric was the only person Dylan trusted with that part of himself.
Very true. What’s interesting though is that on the basement tapes when Eric was really sad he did it alone rather than in front of Dylan. You would think that Dylan would be like oh yeah I’ll listen to you or whatever
I think Eric hated for anyone to see him as weak, even Dylan.
Good point!!
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:22 pm
I know there was talk about if Eric would’ve been an insole now. I don’t think it would’ve been I think it would’ve empathize with them in private but probably he would’ve been like you guys are losers
I wonder if there’s a happy medium and he would’ve just seen himself as a nice guy but came onto strong? I don’t think Dylan would’ve been a nice guy because he never claimed to be nice. I think he was Shy and awkward and then towards the end he was just over it and had his own Halcyon girl in his mind that he was pretty attached to.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:47 pm
Radioactive Clothing.
I find it just a silly little home video that portrayed Eric and Dylan as who they were, just two teenage boys. Something about it is a very stark contrast to what would happen on April 20th, 1999. When I watch that video, it seems like I am watching a video of two very different people than the boys who shot up their school. It seems like something they had fun making. I just find it very interesting how they could both be two vastly different people.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:15 pm
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Radioactive Clothing.
I find it just a silly little home video that portrayed Eric and Dylan as who they were, just two teenage boys. Something about it is a very stark contrast to what would happen on April 20th, 1999. When I watch that video, it seems like I am watching a video of two very different people than the boys who shot up their school. It seems like something they had fun making. I just find it very interesting how they could both be two vastly different people.
I like it for various reasons. You see a little more of the friendship between them like at the end when Dylan says "I was trying not to laugh when you were lighting your cigarette" like he knew Eric hated being laughed at.
As an actor and writer I do love watching them try to act. I think Eric was a better actor while Dylan was a better writer.
Also if you want to deep dive into it, watch this and the Car Wax commercial and see how emaciated Dylan became...
If you really want to see it watch the RNN interview where he is built almost like a jock, then Car Wax then Radioactive Clothing and see how much weight this kid lost.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:20 pm
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Radioactive Clothing.
I find it just a silly little home video that portrayed Eric and Dylan as who they were, just two teenage boys. Something about it is a very stark contrast to what would happen on April 20th, 1999. When I watch that video, it seems like I am watching a video of two very different people than the boys who shot up their school. It seems like something they had fun making. I just find it very interesting how they could both be two vastly different people.
I like it for various reasons. You see a little more of the friendship between them like at the end when Dylan says "I was trying not to laugh when you were lighting your cigarette" like he knew Eric hated being laughed at.
As an actor and writer I do love watching them try to act. I think Eric was a better actor while Dylan was a better writer.
Also if you want to deep dive into it, watch this and the Car Wax commercial and see how emaciated Dylan became...
If you really want to see it watch the RNN interview where he is built almost like a jock, then Car Wax then Radioactive Clothing and see how much weight this kid lost.
Yeah, the RNN video is where he looks his best. By the Car Wax commercial video he looks like a walking skeleton already imo. He's a shell of how he once looked. You can tell he stopped caring about himself closer and closer to NBK. He was beyond ready to die at that point. He knew what he was walking into. Dylan was willing to kill in order to die. (Eric was willing to die in order to kill. But I think they both played equal parts and wanted to kill equally. Just think they had different end goals.) He was just counting down the days. It's very depressing. The light-hearted tone of Radioactive Clothing really takes away from that.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:30 pm
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Screamingophelia wrote:
hvernon wrote:
Radioactive Clothing.
I find it just a silly little home video that portrayed Eric and Dylan as who they were, just two teenage boys. Something about it is a very stark contrast to what would happen on April 20th, 1999. When I watch that video, it seems like I am watching a video of two very different people than the boys who shot up their school. It seems like something they had fun making. I just find it very interesting how they could both be two vastly different people.
I like it for various reasons. You see a little more of the friendship between them like at the end when Dylan says "I was trying not to laugh when you were lighting your cigarette" like he knew Eric hated being laughed at.
As an actor and writer I do love watching them try to act. I think Eric was a better actor while Dylan was a better writer.
Also if you want to deep dive into it, watch this and the Car Wax commercial and see how emaciated Dylan became...
If you really want to see it watch the RNN interview where he is built almost like a jock, then Car Wax then Radioactive Clothing and see how much weight this kid lost.
Yeah, the RNN video is where he looks his best. By the Car Wax commercial video he looks like a walking skeleton already imo. He's a shell of how he once looked. You can tell he stopped caring about himself closer and closer to NBK. He was beyond ready to die at that point. He knew what he was walking into. Dylan was willing to kill in order to die. (Eric was willing to die in order to kill. But I think they both played equal parts and wanted to kill equally. Just think they had different end goals.) He was just counting down the days. It's very depressing. The light-hearted tone of Radioactive Clothing really takes away from that.
Yes, Dylan is very handsome in RNN. It is surprising that the blackjack video was supposedly taken in the winter of 1999 because to me it seems like it should have been in the summer of 1998 when his senior pictures were taken due to his hair being really wavy and him in such good spirits.
I also think they equally wanted to kill. Though even talking to people in the community it surprises me still how few people give Dylan any responsibility. I spoke to someone recently who said "I know Dylan was there but did he really kill anyone??" Well.... yes.... and he injured a few people severely.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:34 pm
I have to agree that Dylan was very attractive in the RNN video, but I think so too of some of the shots in Hitmen for Hire particularly when he's wearing the sunglasses... as much as I hate to admit that. I might have a soft spot for guys with longer hair though. I'm biased.
Yeah, he might have killed less people than Eric but he certainly killed. He is just as responsible as Eric. I think Cullen's book doesn't help with these myths. I think a lot of people just want to portray Dylan as a perpetual sadboy type because they can relate to his depression and suicidal thoughts. People don't want to admit that they can relate to a killer as much as they want to admit they can just relate to a sad teenage boy.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:41 pm
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I have to agree that Dylan was very attractive in the RNN video, but I think so too of some of the shots in Hitmen for Hire particularly when he's wearing the sunglasses... as much as I hate to admit that. I might have a soft spot for guys with longer hair though. I'm biased.
Yeah, he might have killed less people than Eric but he certainly killed. He is just as responsible as Eric. I think Cullen's book doesn't help with these myths. I think a lot of people just want to portray Dylan as a perpetual sadboy type because they can relate to his depression and suicidal thoughts. People don't want to admit that they can relate to a killer as much as they want to admit they can just relate to a sad teenage boy.
Agreed. I think it is scary for some people to realize that depression can turn into that kind of anger. I think from a researcher stand point ignoring Eric's depression and Dylan's anger is not a good idea.
I think it is okay to admit that Dylan was good looking and even Eric was... what is interesting is that I talk about true crime in various groups that are related to true crime podcasts and they talk about Richard Rameriez's cheek bones or how handsome Ted Bundy was, they make jokes about Jeffrey Dahmer eating people yet anyone who says "Hm Dylan Klebold had nice blue eyes" is a monster... ummm... beyond double standard.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:50 pm
I forget that I am on these forums where people aren't so judgy and not talking to people off the internet.
People were really into Bundy. And I can remember reading how many women would send pictures of themselves to Rameriez in jail. I suppose the double standard could be that Eric and Dylan killed younger teenagers. Or just that school shootings are a more taboo topic with how often they happen still. You hear about serial killers less nowadays.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:25 am
Eric in Columbine, it's just interesting watching him interact and walk around the school he would later shoot up
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:00 am
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:06 pm
Eric inside Columbine. It's like I'm hanging out with them, like, some weird ASMR video I found.
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:10 am
The car wax commercial is hilarious
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:01 pm
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The car wax commercial is hilarious
Cracks me up
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Subject: Re: Favorite Home video Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:03 am
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The car wax commercial is hilarious
My fave. Dylan can yell real good.
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