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PostSubject: Eric's "girlfriends"   Eric's "girlfriends" Icon_minitimeThu Dec 27, 2018 5:49 pm

Valeria Lage (DOB: 6/15/81)


Valerie Lage stated she met Eric in December, 1995 at Skate City, and they exchange phone numbers and begin dating.


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  • Valerie was a student at Highlands Ranch High School.
  • She stated that she and Eric were boyfriend and girlfriend for approximately 2 months, until Valerie broke up with him, sometime after Valentines Day of 1996.
  • She stated she was “geekish” at that time and so was Eric.
  • Eric was obsessed with Hitler and big on atomic bombs and gunpowder at the time.
  • That Eric told Valerie that he was planning his mother assassination and she stated she just laughed because she thought he was joking but stated now she realizes he was serious based on the look of his face at the time (However: Eric during the basement tapes talked about his mother in a lovely way and told she cared about him and his parents were the best parents)
  • She stated that Eric told her he wanted to be “infamous” and told her that he would achieve that by building  his own bomb which would be powerful enough to blow the whole country.
  • Eric never mentioned his father
  • Eric never showed her any of his bombs he was making, although she mentioned that Eric messed around on the computer a lot and showed her picture of his bomb designs on the computer.
  • Eric tried to get Valerie to shave her head and also tried to get her into the “Secret Nazi Cult Meetings” with him, although she never did.
  • That Eric advice Valerie he had a violent temper and when he got mad he would scream, throw things and threat to kill people
  • She said that Eric told her he would never hurt her cause she was his girlfriend.
  • She stated that Eric dressed “normal” and wore jeans and T-shirts (with color), and sometimes wore a ripped up light black trench coat but stated that he only wore that to keep him warm and not to signify that he was part of any group. (I find this weird cause I think Eric was not par of Trench Coat Mafia in his freshmen year)
  • Valerie told she broke up with Eric because he scared her and she told him that she decided she was too young to be in a relationship  and he accepted that, although he continued to called her for about two months after that (as friends) and eventually quit calling.
  • Eric listened “Metallica” and “Iron Maiden” and a  heavy metal band called “Deiside”
  • She stated she ran into Eric at South West Plaza Mall in September 1998 and they walked into a knife store in the mall where they visited.
  • Valerie stated that Eric seemed calmer than he was  back in 1996 and she described him as normal on include the way he dressed (nice shirt with a KMSDM ??? band logo on it, jeans, and loafers).
  • Eric commented to Valerie that he had changed a lot (Valerie dresses all black now) and Valerie told Eric, “Wow, you got good looking”, which made him laugh.
  • Valerie never saw Eric after that meeting in 1998.
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Jennifer Sweet DOB: 5/17/80


On May 28, 99 Jennifer Sweet was contacted by the police. And she stated she dated Eric about 1 and half years ago. (Weird since Eric was already dating Sasha at the time)


- She met him at the Southwest Plaza Mall and they dated for two weeks. During that time they hang out around 3 times and they usually met at Denny’s located in the Arapahoe Road and I-25 where she worked at the time.


- She stated that a week after they dating he continued to called her and telling her he loved her, she finally told him that the relationship was over and to stop calling her. However, Jennifer said the relationship ending was a mutual decision and at the time they were dating she was living in Bailey and it was just to far to travel.


- She stated she didn’t talk to him after that, except when he called her one time and asked her for a ride because he was stuck somewhere. She denied his request. Other than that she completely lost contact with him or see him at all.
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Sasha Jacobs DOB: 30/10/1981
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-Sasha was a student at Littleton High School

-Sasha stated she met Dylan Klebold thought a friend at Columbine High School (Chad Laughlin), who has known Eric since the third grade.

-She stated she dated Dylan one or two time in October 1997. She said there was something strange about Dylan and she felt uncomfortable with him. It was during that time she met Eric and they began dating. They dated around 16 to 20 times during the period of October 1997 through January of 1998. On their dated, Sasha stated they would go to movies and she picked the movies they would attend. She did not like violent movies and on their dated they did not attend any. She stated that they normally go out one night per week and the other night Eric would go out with Dylan and see movies such as Pulp Fiction, Natural Born Killers, Reservoir Dogs, etc.

-Sasha stated that Dylan seemed to have more friends than Eric.

-She stated she went to Eric house’s approximately 4 times while they were dating and had dinner with his family one time.

-That Eric never discussed any problems with his family/home life. However, Sasha stated Eric didn’t feel good about himself and felt he had not lived up to his parent expectations. Also Eric hated life and people, and according to her, Eric was envious of his older brother who was lauded by his parents as a straight “A” student, good athlete and very popular with his peers.

-She never saw any fireworks/pipebombs in possession of Eric or Dylan.

-She stated that Eric didn’t like “jocks” because they seemed to get preferential treatment and would harass him and Dylan.

-Sasha stated that after Eric and Dylan were caught breaking into a cable van, Eric told her his parents searched his bedroom and found all the bombs he had already made. She was not sure, but she thought Eric stated the bombs were taken to a field and detonated. She also stated that Eric advised when he was living in NY he had set a bridge on fire.

-She stated that in January of 1998 she stopped dating Eric and in July of 1998 she began receiving threatening phone calls with the called claiming: “I’m going to kill you” or “A bomb is coming”. She believed Eric was responsible for this calls. Eric did send her a e-mail, stated that she was a loose end he was trying to fix all his loose ends. Sasha stated she changed her screen name and Eric mails to her stopped.
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PostSubject: Re: Eric's "girlfriends"   Eric's "girlfriends" Icon_minitimeThu Dec 27, 2018 6:00 pm

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Sasha Jacobs DOB: 30/10/1981
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-Sasha was a student at Littleton High School

-Sasha stated she met Dylan Klebold thought a friend at Columbine High School (Chad Laughlin), who has known Eric since the third grade.

-She stated she dated Dylan one or two time in October 1997. She said there was something strange about Dylan and she felt uncomfortable with him. It was during that time she met Eric and they began dating. They dated around 16 to 20 times during the period of October 1997 through January of 1998. On their dated, Sasha stated they would go to movies and she picked the movies they would attend. She did not like violent movies and on their dated they did not attend any. She stated that they normally go out one night per week and the other night Eric would go out with Dylan and see movies such as Pulp Fiction, Natural Born Killers, Reservoir Dogs, etc.

-Sasha stated that Dylan seemed to have more friends than Eric.

-She stated she went to Eric house’s approximately 4 times while they were dating and had dinner with his family one time.

-That Eric never discussed any problems with his family/home life. However, Sasha stated Eric didn’t feel good about himself and felt he had not lived up to his parent expectations. Also Eric hated life and people, and according to her, Eric was envious of his older brother who was lauded by his parents as a straight “A” student, good athlete and very popular with his peers.

-She never saw any fireworks/pipebombs in possession of Eric or Dylan.

-She stated that Eric didn’t like “jocks” because they seemed to get preferential treatment and would harass him and Dylan.

-Sasha stated that after Eric and Dylan were caught breaking into a cable van, Eric told her his parents searched his bedroom and found all the bombs he had already made. She was not sure, but she thought Eric stated the bombs were taken to a field and detonated. She also stated that Eric advised when he was living in NY he had set a bridge on fire.

-She stated that in January of 1998 she stopped dating Eric and in July of 1998 she began receiving threatening phone calls with the called claiming: “I’m going to kill you” or “A bomb is coming”. She believed Eric was responsible for this calls. Eric did send her a e-mail, stated that she was a loose end he was trying to fix all his loose ends. Sasha stated she changed her screen name and Eric mails to her stopped.


Eric was it in Colorado in 3rd grade... I think he knew Dylan since 3rd grade

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gutslut wrote:
Valeria Lage (DOB: 6/15/81)


Valerie Lage stated she met Eric in December, 1995 at Skate City, and they exchange phone numbers and begin dating.


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  • Valerie was a student at Highlands Ranch High School.
  • She stated that she and Eric were boyfriend and girlfriend for approximately 2 months, until Valerie broke up with him, sometime after Valentines Day of 1996.
  • She stated she was “geekish” at that time and so was Eric.
  • Eric was obsessed with Hitler and big on atomic bombs and gunpowder at the time.
  • That Eric told Valerie that he was planning his mother assassination and she stated she just laughed because she thought he was joking but stated now she realizes he was serious based on the look of his face at the time (However: Eric during the basement tapes talked about his mother in a lovely way and told she cared about him and his parents were the best parents)
  • She stated that Eric told her he wanted to be “infamous” and told her that he would achieve that by building  his own bomb which would be powerful enough to blow the whole country.
  • Eric never mentioned his father
  • Eric never showed her any of his bombs he was making, although she mentioned that Eric messed around on the computer a lot and showed her picture of his bomb designs on the computer.
  • Eric tried to get Valerie to shave her head and also tried to get her into the “Secret Nazi Cult Meetings” with him, although she never did.
  • That Eric advice Valerie he had a violent temper and when he got mad he would scream, throw things and threat to kill people
  • She said that Eric told her he would never hurt her cause she was his girlfriend.
  • She stated that Eric dressed “normal” and wore jeans and T-shirts (with color), and sometimes wore a ripped up light black trench coat but stated that he only wore that to keep him warm and not to signify that he was part of any group. (I find this weird cause I think Eric was not par of Trench Coat Mafia in his freshmen year)
  • Valerie told she broke up with Eric because he scared her and she told him that she decided she was too young to be in a relationship  and he accepted that, although he continued to called her for about two months after that (as friends) and eventually quit calling.
  • Eric listened “Metallica” and “Iron Maiden” and a  heavy metal band called “Deiside”
  • She stated she ran into Eric at South West Plaza Mall in September 1998 and they walked into a knife store in the mall where they visited.
  • Valerie stated that Eric seemed calmer than he was  back in 1996 and she described him as normal on include the way he dressed (nice shirt with a KMSDM ??? band logo on it, jeans, and loafers).
  • Eric commented to Valerie that he had changed a lot (Valerie dresses all black now) and Valerie told Eric, “Wow, you got good looking”, which made him laugh.
  • Valerie never saw Eric after that meeting in 1998.


This account seems questionable, anyone else have any feelings about this?

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PostSubject: Re: Eric's "girlfriends"   Eric's "girlfriends" Icon_minitimeSat Dec 29, 2018 11:30 pm

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-Sasha stated that after Eric and Dylan were caught breaking into a cable van, Eric told her his parents searched his bedroom and found all the bombs he had already made. She was not sure, but she thought Eric stated the bombs were taken to a field and detonated. She also stated that Eric advised when he was living in NY he had set a bridge on fire.

Why do I get a feeling that there's more to this than meets the eye?

I think someone should check for news articles in Plattsburgh to see if there's a story covered there that matches this testimony, something that lines up with this. IDK why, I have a hunch.

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PostSubject: Re: Eric's "girlfriends"   Eric's "girlfriends" Icon_minitimeSun Dec 30, 2018 12:09 am

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This account seems questionable, anyone else have any feelings about this?

I agree, I've never believed this. He tried to get her to shave her head and attend secret Nazi cult meetings?

Eric who was obsessed with image and how people perceived him (despite railing against being that way). He wanted a bald girlfriend?
Secret Nazi cult meetings? Really, now?!

Also, agree about the trench coat. I don't believe he began wearing one until later in his sophomore year or the beginning of junior year. Until then, friends described him as dressing sort of preppie.

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PostSubject: Re: Eric's "girlfriends"   Eric's "girlfriends" Icon_minitimeSun Dec 30, 2018 9:44 am

thelmar wrote:
llpoolhey wrote:

This account seems questionable, anyone else have any feelings about this?

I agree, I've never believed this. He tried to get her to shave her head and attend secret Nazi cult meetings?

Eric who was obsessed with image and how people perceived him (despite railing against being that way). He wanted a bald girlfriend?
Secret Nazi cult meetings? Really, now?!

Also, agree about the trench coat. I don't believe he began wearing one until later in his sophomore year or the beginning of junior year. Until then, friends described him as dressing sort of preppie.


You’re right, he was pretty preppy and into sports up until junior year. That always seems to be the time people pinpoint as something changing in the.

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You’re right, he was pretty preppy and into sports up until junior year. That always seems to be the time people pinpoint as something changing in the.




@Screamingophelia   "Eric got chicks. LOTS AND LOTS OF CHICKS!"   Sorry I just couldn't help myself! Haha

But I do agree Eric was preppy and then started dressing down so to say.
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You’re right, he was pretty preppy and into sports up until junior year. That always seems to be the time people pinpoint as something changing in the.




[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]   "Eric got chicks. LOTS AND LOTS OF CHICKS!"   Sorry I just couldn't help myself! Haha

But I do agree Eric was preppy and then started dressing down so to say.


Yes! Rumor has it he out scored the football team.


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Screamingophelia wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
You’re right, he was pretty preppy and into sports up until junior year. That always seems to be the time people pinpoint as something changing in the.




@Screamingophelia   "Eric got chicks. LOTS AND LOTS OF CHICKS!"   Sorry I just couldn't help myself! Haha

But I do agree Eric was preppy and then started dressing down so to say.


Yes! Rumor has it he out scored the football team.



BAHAH! I wonder if poor Dave ever wakes up in a cold sweat hearing that echoing in his head? scratch Haha
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ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
You’re right, he was pretty preppy and into sports up until junior year. That always seems to be the time people pinpoint as something changing in the.




[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]   "Eric got chicks. LOTS AND LOTS OF CHICKS!"   Sorry I just couldn't help myself! Haha

But I do agree Eric was preppy and then started dressing down so to say.


Yes! Rumor has it he out scored the football team.



BAHAH! I wonder if poor Dave ever wakes up in a cold sweat hearing that echoing in his head? scratch Haha


He will never live it down


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Screamingophelia wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
You’re right, he was pretty preppy and into sports up until junior year. That always seems to be the time people pinpoint as something changing in the.




@Screamingophelia   "Eric got chicks. LOTS AND LOTS OF CHICKS!"   Sorry I just couldn't help myself! Haha

But I do agree Eric was preppy and then started dressing down so to say.


Yes! Rumor has it he out scored the football team.



BAHAH! I wonder if poor Dave ever wakes up in a cold sweat hearing that echoing in his head? scratch Haha


He will never live it down



True! Not as long as this forum exists...! Smile
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thelmar wrote:
llpoolhey wrote:

This account seems questionable, anyone else have any feelings about this?

I agree, I've never believed this. He tried to get her to shave her head and attend secret Nazi cult meetings?

Eric who was obsessed with image and how people perceived him (despite railing against being that way). He wanted a bald girlfriend?
Secret Nazi cult meetings? Really, now?!

Also, agree about the trench coat. I don't believe he began wearing one until later in his sophomore year or the beginning of junior year. Until then, friends described him as dressing sort of preppie.

Yeah I completely agree with everything you said.
I seriously reread that bald head point 5 times. Yeah sure bud. Totally believe this lol
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ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
You’re right, he was pretty preppy and into sports up until junior year. That always seems to be the time people pinpoint as something changing in the.




[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]   "Eric got chicks. LOTS AND LOTS OF CHICKS!"   Sorry I just couldn't help myself! Haha

But I do agree Eric was preppy and then started dressing down so to say.


Yes! Rumor has it he out scored the football team.



BAHAH! I wonder if poor Dave ever wakes up in a cold sweat hearing that echoing in his head? scratch Haha

You know this is especially funny right now because there is a ridiculous rumor being spread on tumblr right now that eric used to get raped in the locker room on the reg.
The cop rape theory wasn't crazy enough I guess. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Eric's "girlfriends"   Eric's "girlfriends" Icon_minitimeMon Dec 31, 2018 6:43 pm

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gutslut wrote:
Valeria Lage (DOB: 6/15/81)


Valerie Lage stated she met Eric in December, 1995 at Skate City, and they exchange phone numbers and begin dating.


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  • Valerie was a student at Highlands Ranch High School.
  • She stated that she and Eric were boyfriend and girlfriend for approximately 2 months, until Valerie broke up with him, sometime after Valentines Day of 1996.
  • She stated she was “geekish” at that time and so was Eric.
  • Eric was obsessed with Hitler and big on atomic bombs and gunpowder at the time.
  • That Eric told Valerie that he was planning his mother assassination and she stated she just laughed because she thought he was joking but stated now she realizes he was serious based on the look of his face at the time (However: Eric during the basement tapes talked about his mother in a lovely way and told she cared about him and his parents were the best parents)
  • She stated that Eric told her he wanted to be “infamous” and told her that he would achieve that by building  his own bomb which would be powerful enough to blow the whole country.
  • Eric never mentioned his father
  • Eric never showed her any of his bombs he was making, although she mentioned that Eric messed around on the computer a lot and showed her picture of his bomb designs on the computer.
  • Eric tried to get Valerie to shave her head and also tried to get her into the “Secret Nazi Cult Meetings” with him, although she never did.
  • That Eric advice Valerie he had a violent temper and when he got mad he would scream, throw things and threat to kill people
  • She said that Eric told her he would never hurt her cause she was his girlfriend.
  • She stated that Eric dressed “normal” and wore jeans and T-shirts (with color), and sometimes wore a ripped up light black trench coat but stated that he only wore that to keep him warm and not to signify that he was part of any group. (I find this weird cause I think Eric was not par of Trench Coat Mafia in his freshmen year)
  • Valerie told she broke up with Eric because he scared her and she told him that she decided she was too young to be in a relationship  and he accepted that, although he continued to called her for about two months after that (as friends) and eventually quit calling.
  • Eric listened “Metallica” and “Iron Maiden” and a  heavy metal band called “Deiside”
  • She stated she ran into Eric at South West Plaza Mall in September 1998 and they walked into a knife store in the mall where they visited.
  • Valerie stated that Eric seemed calmer than he was  back in 1996 and she described him as normal on include the way he dressed (nice shirt with a KMSDM ??? band logo on it, jeans, and loafers).
  • Eric commented to Valerie that he had changed a lot (Valerie dresses all black now) and Valerie told Eric, “Wow, you got good looking”, which made him laugh.
  • Valerie never saw Eric after that meeting in 1998.


This account seems questionable, anyone else have any feelings about this?
They met in middle school
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Does anyone have the picture of Kathy and Wayne with Alyssa Selcher? I saw it once awhile back. They seemed to be meeting at a restaurant or somewhere public. I'm pretty sure the caption was something about her visiting them on what would have been Eric's birthday.
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Just found it. My bad, I thought I remembered her being in the picture, but I guess she just took it?
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Interesting! What is the story behind this picture? Why would Alyssa have been there?

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I read lots of reports from girls claiming to have been girlfriends, i think the majority are just fame hungry, sickeningly the media buys into the bull crap although a few have been called out. They were sooo young too, relationships at that age are all kissy and cute. If only they knew the legacy that was ahead, how different things could have been. Scary
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Interesting! What is the story behind this picture? Why would Alyssa have  been there?


She supposedly visits or reaches out to the family every year for Eric's birthday. I wish I could remember the source/where I had originally found this bit of information! But she supposedly brings his mom a plant as a gift each year as well. I hope the story is true, and from what we know about her and her friendship with Eric, I like to think there's a good chance that it's true. I'm sure the Harris's appreciate someone reaching out to them with good memories of their son.
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I don't think he ever had a serious gf, which I don't get since he was not at all ugly.


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Based on what I have read in the 11k, Eric seemed a bit too intense and needy.
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Is it true that Kirsti Epling liked Eric romantically? I read that somewhere, idk if that's true. I know she was with Nate.

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PostSubject: Re: Eric's "girlfriends"   Eric's "girlfriends" Icon_minitimeFri Apr 05, 2019 12:14 pm

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Is it true that Kirsti Epling liked Eric romantically? I read that somewhere, idk if that's true. I know she was with Nate.

It is written differently in Cullens book of course because he loves to dramatize Eric's prowess...

However from what I understand is Kristi and Eric were friends, Kristi liked Eric as more of a friend but she was dating someone named Dan and Dan punched him.. and Kristi and Dan broke up, she still liked him but Eric liked Alyssa and wanted to date her. So Kristi was like "oh screw this, i am awesome and look at Nate.."because yes.. look at Nate (I am exaggerating I don't know what Kristi was thinking)but long story short she and nate started dating, and they were dating during the shooting. However, Eric was annoyed because kristi moved on and got into a fight with Nate...


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PostSubject: Re: Eric's "girlfriends"   Eric's "girlfriends" Icon_minitimeFri Apr 05, 2019 12:17 pm

Yeah, Cullen also believed in the Brenda Parker had sex with Eric rumour. Even though we all know it was a little fan fiction she wrote.

Rolling Eyes That girl was the first Columbiner.

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I always wonder if Susan Dewitt would of dated Eric if he had not gone through with the shooting.
The letter she wrote to him years after the shooting where she said she essentially could of loved him really is heartbreaking.
She was a good looking girl too.
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I think she would have. Yes Susan is really cute and apparently Wayne really liked her too. I always thought that she was the one for him, that she would have cared about him for who he was.

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“Eric David Harris,

I didn’t know the person hiding under your smile. I didn’t know about the pain you carried in your heart. I didn’t know the torture you endured for so long. And I didn’t want to believe you were capable of such destruction. I didn’t know I could feel such pain for someone I really didn’t know. If I knew what your eyes hid, and what your mind was screaming, maybe I could have helped you. I could have loved you. All I know is the pain I am feeling inside. All I know is the person I talked to everyday, the person who seemed happy, the person who always helped me and made sure I had everything I needed. I see your picture on the pages, they say what a monster you are, they say how you were mean and cruel. But you see, I can’t believe what they say. I knew the smiling person, the person who helped me. I don’t want to hear it anymore. I want it to go away, the angry cries well up in me and I hate you for making me so scared and sad. Leaving me without any explanation. Leaving me with wandering thoughts and hollow cries. Did you try and reach me? Did you try to tell me? I will live with the memories and the unanswered questions I hold in my heart. Not a day will go by that I will not wonder why. As times goes by, I am getting stronger, but then the moment comes when I break down and cry. I am so sorry I didn’t see the rage you had inside. I am sorry I was so blind and couldn’t see all the things you tried to show me. No matter how wrong you were, I will love the person who smiled and said “Hi” to me everyday. I promise to never forget the person I knew, and forget the person they say you were.

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Susan DeWitt”

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That made me cry the first time I read it.

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That made me cry the first time I read it.

It definitely hit me right in the feels Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Eric's "girlfriends"   Eric's "girlfriends" Icon_minitimeSat Apr 06, 2019 9:24 am

I didn't know Eric had a Chad brother he was jealous of. The more I read about him, the more obvious it becomes that he was an incel. Picked on by normies, no luck with girls, hatred towards other people. That's basically every incel's life story.
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Part of what makes an incel is that they feel entitled to sex and endorse violence against people who are sexually active.
Nothing about Eric suggests that he felt this way. Even the so called "rape fantasy" was a one and done kind of thing. He never wrote about it or talked about it otherwise. And he didn't focus on getting revenge against people who've had sex, his hatred was directed at the entire human race.
Just because Eric didn't get any doesn't mean he was an incel.

And Eric likely was jealous of Kevin but by all accounts they had a good relationship and they loved and respected each other.
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Tell me how this dude didn't get any gurls [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

He should have focused more on modeling career instead of crap

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Yes! Rumor has it he out scored the football team.

Must be his smile. He really knew when to lay it on, didn't he?
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thelmar wrote:
Part of what makes an incel is that they feel entitled to sex and endorse violence against people who are sexually active.
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And he didn't focus on getting revenge against people who've had sex, his hatred was directed at the entire human race.

Well it's settled then, he hated everyone because reasons but not sex because mind reader.

thelmar wrote:

Just because Eric didn't get any doesn't mean he was an incel.
Literally what it means

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I didn't know Eric had a Chad brother he was jealous of. The more I read about him, the more obvious it becomes that he was an incel. Picked on by normies, no luck with girls, hatred towards other people. That's basically every incel's life story.
Dylan said it every other page and wanted to die to be with imaginary girlfriend but people still don't mention it as a motive. "the lonely man strikes with absolute rage". Seems to me the 'wrath' was ten times more about that than 'bullying' or any other bromide.
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PostSubject: Re: Eric's "girlfriends"   Eric's "girlfriends" Icon_minitimeSun Apr 07, 2019 10:04 pm

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Well it's settled then, he hated everyone because reasons but not sex because mind reader.

Bad day? You know this isn't what I said. Eric hated everyone and 20 yrs later no one truly knows why. What we do know is that he wrote about hating people for being like sheep, for everyone being the same and not having any original thoughts. He wrote of hating people who made fun of him, hating "the human equation" that made them act that way. He hated people who didn't give him the respect he thought he deserved. All of that is way bigger than a simple focus of hating people who had sex when he didn't, which is the focus within incel subculture. Eric wondered why he wasn't able to get any, but he never wrote of hating people because they did. He didn't write incessantly of love and girls like Dylan did and his mentions of sex were few and far between. This suggests that Eric's main sources of hatred came from other places.  

thelmar wrote:
Just because Eric didn't get any doesn't mean he was an incel.
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Literally what it means
Also, yes, the literal definition of an incel is an involuntary celibate. If we are using this then probably 50% of teenaged boys would be considered incels.
But in the context of discussion about incels who go on to commit mass murder, these are individuals whose main motivation is a perceived sexual disenfranchisement. People like Alex Minassian and Elliot Rodger, who were taking revenge because they felt deprived of their "right" to romantic and sexual relationships by Chad's and Stacy's.
Agree to disagree but I don't think Eric Harris fits that category.
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"Eric told Valerie that he was planning his mother assassination and she stated she just laughed because she thought he was joking but stated now she realizes he was serious based on the look of his face at the time"

WTF Eric....
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While we're on the subject of Eric's possible girlfriends, I figured I would join in the conversation. If this is not allowed, please let me know. According to what I have heard on YouTube by a YouTuber that goes by the name of The Curator's Corner, or CVA, he talks about how shortly after the massacre happened at Columbine, a 24-year-old woman named Brenda Parker claimed to have an intimate relationship with Eric and claimed to have met him at a mall in late January of 1998 (a year before the massacre happened). He also goes into detail about how Brenda and a friend were walking around the mall, and Eric and Dylan were following them into a few stores. Brenda stated how after she and Eric have started hanging out on a daily basis and more regularly, they started doing things together like playing video games, going up to the mountains, drink, and of course, going all the way. From what I also know from the video, Brenda started putting everything on the internet, stating that she was in a relationship with Eric and that she knew him. When Brenda found out how old Eric was, which in this case, Eric was sixteen and a half during the time, Brenda started to slowly distance herself from him and of course, the police found out. Since the video is about a little over five minutes long, I don't want to bore everyone by going into EVERY single detail, but it's on The Curator's Corner channel if anyone is interested in finding out more. The video is titled, Eric Harris and Brenda Parker .

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PostSubject: Re: Eric's "girlfriends"   Eric's "girlfriends" Icon_minitimeTue Apr 16, 2019 1:32 pm

Ah, Brenda.

I have stories as some people know....
On Top of many things that’s a key reason that I cannot take Dave Cullens book seriously.



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Yeah, I can see why. I haven't read Cullen's book myself but in The Curator Corner (CVA)'s video, he states that Cullen thought the relationship between Brenda and Eric was a real thing because it was stated in his book that Eric had a 23-year-old girlfriend, meaning Brenda. He also stated that even though Dave Cullen was pretty knowledgable with the Columbine massacre, it was things like that that destroy his credibility, which makes sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Eric's "girlfriends"   Eric's "girlfriends" Icon_minitimeTue Apr 16, 2019 4:47 pm

The one Thing that sometimes interest me as a lot of people her fun whatever prowess they think he had. And they talk about Dylan being a born and rejected. But they don’t talk about the amount of girls that did like Dylan. He had a date even before he went to prom with Robyn.

It’s pretty much known that Robyn did referred to Dylan a lot of times as her boyfriend.

I think it’s just something that leads people to believe been there did that he was a sad puppy dog and Eric was the mean mean angry kid that forced him to do this horrible thing.

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I can agree with that. Even though I necessarily don't condone what both Dylan and Eric did at the massacre since I believe what they have done was wrong, I think Dylan went through with it because he wanted to impress Eric, regardless if Eric was the kind of person that forced him to go forward with it or not.
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“Eric David Harris,

I didn’t know the person hiding under your smile. I didn’t know about the pain you carried in your heart. I didn’t know the torture you endured for so long. And I didn’t want to believe you were capable of such destruction. I didn’t know I could feel such pain for someone I really didn’t know. If I knew what your eyes hid, and what your mind was screaming, maybe I could have helped you. I could have loved you. All I know is the pain I am feeling inside. All I know is the person I talked to everyday, the person who seemed happy, the person who always helped me and made sure I had everything I needed. I see your picture on the pages, they say what a monster you are, they say how you were mean and cruel. But you see, I can’t believe what they say. I knew the smiling person, the person who helped me. I don’t want to hear it anymore. I want it to go away, the angry cries well up in me and I hate you for making me so scared and sad. Leaving me without any explanation. Leaving me with wandering thoughts and hollow cries. Did you try and reach me? Did you try to tell me? I will live with the memories and the unanswered questions I hold in my heart. Not a day will go by that I will not wonder why. As times goes by, I am getting stronger, but then the moment comes when I break down and cry. I am so sorry I didn’t see the rage you had inside. I am sorry I was so blind and couldn’t see all the things you tried to show me. No matter how wrong you were, I will love the person who smiled and said “Hi” to me everyday. I promise to never forget the person I knew, and forget the person they say you were.

Love Always and Forever,

Susan DeWitt”

What is the source of this photo? She was a junior when Eric was a senior and the seniors have the colourised yearbook pictures. Is this from the 2000 yearbook?
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] "Eric got chicks. LOTS AND LOTS OF CHICKS!"
He's referring to EH fangirls.
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PostSubject: Re: Eric's "girlfriends"   Eric's "girlfriends" Icon_minitimeSat Jul 06, 2019 8:47 am

H said he outscored the football team. I think he was talking about the girls at school. He also talks about how his smile really won a lot of girls over.

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@Screamingophelia "Eric got chicks. LOTS AND LOTS OF CHICKS!"
He's referring to EH fangirls.

If we are talking about Cullen, he is definitely referring to Eric's "girlfriends" and not fangirls.
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PostSubject: Re: Eric's "girlfriends"   Eric's "girlfriends" Icon_minitimeSat Jul 06, 2019 6:40 pm

Yea, in the context of what Cullen was discussing he was talking about Eric dating and stuff in HS

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You sure Lol

Yes. He goes on to state that "[Eric] outscored the football team" and then "‘[Eric] was a little charmer. He walked right up to hotties at the mall. He won them over with quick wit, dazzling dimples, and a disarming smile". He is talking about real girls when Eric was alive given the context that he would supposedly walk up to these girls at the mall. Can't be fangirls after his death. Plus, the outscoring is definitely talking about chicks and not a game of football.
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